Rogen, Apatow surprisingly unsympathetic to accusation that their movies caused IV killings.

[CrawlingChaos]

119. I can't believe you think any of that helps your case

First off, the film making fun of the fact that Seth Rogan gets women hotter than himself means jack squat. The point is, he gets them and we, the audience, know he's going to wind up with the hot woman. It's quite common for filmmakers to joke about the looks disparity between onscreen couples - that loathsome toad Woody Allen often did the same, but he ALWAYS made sure to cast himself beside a woman many orders of magnitude more attractive than he was. It's what we've all come to expect and, tragically, what seems "normal" to us.

And younger - let's not forget that! Try to imagine Sean Connery paired romantically with, say, Angela Lansbury. How about Harrison Ford with Jessica Walter? They're about the same age, if I'm not mistaken. You'll see many actors paired with MUCH younger women, but when have you ever seen the reverse?

I can't believe you think "Girls" makes your case! Just the opposite, I'm afraid. The very thing "Girls" is known for is that it is an anomaly. Something we're not used to seeing - a show with average-looking female leads and, OMG, it just blows people's minds to see a non-supermodel type naked onscreen, apparently. Every time I've ever seen Lena Dunham she's fielding questions about the angry response to her nude scenes, or the thick skin she's had to develop to cope with attacks on her appearance. This does not help your case.

It's worth noting that the other thing "Girls" is known for is it's nepotism factor; that every single female lead is the daughter of someone wealthy/famous/influential. As much as I'd like to think the show represents some kind of progress, I think it's more like a bunch of rich kids capitalizing on the quasi-hipster "mumblecore" indie film movement. It's a one-off.

And what in holy hell does Seth Rogan's real life wife have to do with anything?? Talk about beyond irrelevant!