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1StrongBlackMan

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130. I never said or implied that ...

Sat May 31, 2014, 08:41 AM

May 2014

think there are 'valid reasons' to arrest a 16 & 15 y/o for consensual "stupid teenage sex" ... Now did I?

I have not commented on the efficacy, the legitimacy or the wisdom/stupidity of such laws; but the fact is, those laws exist ... despite your wish that they did not.

I remember awhile back, I commented on an article where a father shot a man that the father found in bed with his 16(?) yr old daughter, in the early hours of the morning. I commented that if I it were me ... unknown man, my teenage daughter, early morning ... I couldn't say that I wouldn't have shot, too.

I believe that it was you, that responded that I was a father attempting to "control (my) daughter's vagina."

You seem to have a pattern of responding to stuff that was only said in your head ... or maybe it's just the way you respond to me.

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what do you rhink the legal age to consent sex should be? [View all] arely staircase May 2014 OP

Old enough to use spell check. n/t winter is coming May 2014 #1

Heh. Iggo May 2014 #3

Hahaha!! Lasher May 2014 #7

You rhink? Jamastiene May 2014 #10

DUzy! Egnever May 2014 #24

Hmm dipsydoodle May 2014 #29

.... Louisiana1976 May 2014 #97

Ten years younger than I am. nt bemildred May 2014 #2

16 LittleBlue May 2014 #4

Exactly. ManiacJoe May 2014 #118

I was thinking 18 and everything under 18 is governed by the age difference. 19/17..ok etc Leme May 2014 #139

I wanted an older option. Blue_Adept May 2014 #5

When the parents say so? penultimate May 2014 #32

I put 16 but I am rethinking that AngryAmish May 2014 #6

That sounds more reasonable, except the 15 year old part. Jamastiene May 2014 #64

I can only think of a few instances where ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #84

And that, my friend, is why we should have fewer laws, not more AngryAmish May 2014 #87

I would settle for equal enforcement of the laws ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #91

You think there are 'valid reasons' to arrest a 16 & 15 y/o for consensual "stupid teenage sex"? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #126

I never said or implied that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #130

Not having an encylopedic knowledge of every discussion ever had on DU, I couldn't say. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #140

It's telling that the discussion isn't usually about the need for more Romeo and Juliet laws... redqueen May 2014 #89

That is often due to the bad phrasing of the question in the OP. ManiacJoe May 2014 #141

That does seem to be the few times they ever do prosecute. Jamastiene May 2014 #90

Look at the Marcus Dixon case in GA. RiffRandell May 2014 #136

Can we get an option for "Why does it always seem to be adult men who ask about this?" nt redqueen May 2014 #8

Actually, women *sometimes* ask that question. Even here on DU! Nye Bevan May 2014 #12

The word 'almost' has a definite meaning. redqueen May 2014 #15

Who said "almost"? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #16

I meant to put it before "always". Regardless, I wonder what prompted this man to ask. redqueen May 2014 #28

wtf is that supposed to mean? arely staircase May 2014 #131

Lol. pintobean May 2014 #17

Different question, yes? LanternWaste May 2014 #23

Yeah. Asking "should the age of consent be lowered" Nye Bevan May 2014 #69

Did you ever go back and see if there was any context there? redqueen May 2014 #77

It was an OP pintobean May 2014 #79

He went on the goose chase to do his context-free (i.e. meaningless) "gotcha" redqueen May 2014 #82

I'm guessing he remembered it pintobean May 2014 #85

Guess whatever you like, I don't care. redqueen May 2014 #88

I don't know why you would think pintobean May 2014 #93

Sometimes a question is just a question joeglow3 May 2014 #71

"You're not allowed to discuss this aspect of the law, otherwise you're a pedophile" Kurska May 2014 #120

It makes perfect sense that people like that would hang around DU Warren DeMontague May 2014 #127

I rhink it should be 18. n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #9

I am with you with 18 DrDan May 2014 #13

Apparently, we are bad people for that. Jamastiene May 2014 #52

Or maybe some people dont think kids should go to jail for having sex? Egnever May 2014 #65

Underage kids wouldn't go to jail if they were with each other. Jamastiene May 2014 #70

exactly - thank you DrDan May 2014 #74

how in the world you come to that conclusion is beyond me Egnever May 2014 #115

that would imply that consent means Egnever May 2014 #26

Duh, Jamastiene May 2014 #27

And if one is 18 and the other 17? jberryhill May 2014 #34

No, they need to be 18+, so 17 is against the law. Jamastiene May 2014 #35

I'm actually just trying to understand you. jberryhill May 2014 #37

Semantics, splitting hairs. 18+ means 18+. Period. Jamastiene May 2014 #41

It's a lot more than "semantics" when your 17 year old kid is charged with a crime jberryhill May 2014 #43

Why are you so obsessed with 17 year olds? Jamastiene May 2014 #47

Because, apparently in your view, I should have been locked up at that age jberryhill May 2014 #53

You apparently did not read what I wrote. Jamastiene May 2014 #57

I did read what you wrote jberryhill May 2014 #60

I was in college at 17. AngryAmish May 2014 #62

Um... Chan790 May 2014 #75

You want to throw an 18-year-old in jail for having sex with a 17-year-old? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #39

And two 17 year olds jberryhill May 2014 #42

Yes, in this case, the 18 year old is breaking the law. n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #55

Okay so.... jberryhill May 2014 #58

Lol, keep trying to put words in my mouth. Jamastiene May 2014 #66

No, it's fairly understandable jberryhill May 2014 #72

I think I see the problem AngryAmish May 2014 #73

Yes. Jamastiene May 2014 #81

Age of consent in SC is 16 madville May 2014 #133

I was told it was 18 in SC. Jamastiene May 2014 #135

in texas the age of consent is 17 arely staircase May 2014 #137

No it's not. Laffy Kat May 2014 #107

Ok, but in our youth oriented culture, Jamastiene May 2014 #116

No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #129

35. Liberal Veteran May 2014 #11

Can young people be trusted to have unsupervised sex? bemildred May 2014 #14

Are you suggesting they should be having supervised sex? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #100

I'm sure volunteers will be no problem. nt bemildred May 2014 #103

Would they be provided popcorn? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #106

I'm sorry, I think we have gone far enough in this direction. bemildred May 2014 #108

anyone voluteering for thst is more likely to bring kleenex. nt arely staircase May 2014 #138

It really does depend on the person treestar May 2014 #20

The same age as for drinking, driving, joining the military, Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #18

Well said. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #99

It should be more complicated than just a flat age Lee-Lee May 2014 #19

Uh, why is 18 a problem? Arkana May 2014 #21

Nobody said it was 18 jberryhill May 2014 #40

Because some seem to think you want to throw two 17 year olds in jail. Jamastiene May 2014 #68

18 works for most sarisataka May 2014 #22

are you considering taking a new lover? NightWatcher May 2014 #25

sex should be banned Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #30

I always appreciate the arbitrarily excluded opinion jberryhill May 2014 #38

If we had mandatory "neutering and spaying prior to the onset of puberty" Louisiana1976 May 2014 #102

like they always did - from God via the stork Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #128

Flawed Poll jberryhill May 2014 #31

*16 LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #33

I'm going to piggy back on your comment... one_voice May 2014 #105

I don't know. ZombieHorde May 2014 #36

Good question. nt redqueen May 2014 #44

Yeah, me too. NuclearDem May 2014 #48

Probably something to do with preventing adults from taking advantage of minors. nt redqueen May 2014 #54

Well, to clarify, I meant more among teenagers. NuclearDem May 2014 #61

That's what the Romeo and Juliet laws are meant to protect. redqueen May 2014 #76

18, but with a two-year roll down to 15. Algernon Moncrieff May 2014 #45

18 with appropriate loopholes for close-in-age relationships. NuclearDem May 2014 #46

As far as health is concerned, I read a long time ago that when a 16-year-old gives birth, the Cal33 May 2014 #49

Be close to your children, talk to them about things. everything, when they are young. panader0 May 2014 #50

It's 16 here Prophet 451 May 2014 #51

Old enough to deliver a pregnancy safely Warpy May 2014 #56

There you go putting scientific knowledge into an emotional DU fight AngryAmish May 2014 #63

The question of emotional maturity is a fucking minefield Warpy May 2014 #78

Teenagers have sex with each other, which is not the same as adults having sex with them. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #59

I'm more concerned about the difference of age between the two people gollygee May 2014 #67

Other jeff47 May 2014 #80

60, for everyone. raccoon May 2014 #83

I was thinking somewhere in the early 40s. genwah May 2014 #92

Why? ismnotwasm May 2014 #86

why what? nt arely staircase Jun 2014 #143

Constant rhino sex? What did I miss? FSogol May 2014 #94

16 is too young and sort of disgusting so many selected it. n-t Logical May 2014 #95

well then you must be horrified by me. I picked 15. Kids have sex with each other cali May 2014 #96

Most don't, though. redqueen May 2014 #101

a sizeable minority do cali May 2014 #124

sick nt Logical May 2014 #111

The states voted on this: 16% chose 17, 24% chose 18, and 62% chose 16 struggle4progress May 2014 #98

From an evolutionary stand point... deathrind May 2014 #104

It sounds like you're being sarcastic gollygee May 2014 #109

Reading that reminded me of an ugly rhyme that's used to push the idea redqueen May 2014 #112

No, I do not believe the age which deathrind May 2014 #113

with someone comparable or someone much older, teacher, person of power differential? uppityperson May 2014 #110

As a society we... deathrind May 2014 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo May 2014 #117

18, but if we're talking two high school kids around the same age ecstatic May 2014 #119

Legal adults Harmony Blue May 2014 #121

It is a hard subject matter for me. Kurska May 2014 #122

The youngest age at which one could theoretically support a child. wickerwoman May 2014 #123

I didn't vote. KitSileya May 2014 #125

Not sure if the people who chose 21 are serious or not... Ballast_Point May 2014 #132

Ask me again when we have a sane sex ed policy. DireStrike May 2014 #134

This is hard for me to figure out Shoulders of Giants May 2014 #142