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59. That's because there is some truth to it

Sat May 31, 2014, 10:31 AM

May 2014

I've lived it myself. The debate to me is how to fix it but it's pretty hard to deny that it is almost impossible to do anything efficiently inside the federal government system. At my last recent federal job it would take me a couple of hours of preparation, around 25 pieces of paper, and three different signatures to make a single purchase. We were also required to purchase from more expensive sources in many cases unless I filled out 10 more sheets of paper and got more approvals to go outside the system and at that point it just cost more money than was potentially saved so you just say screw it and go through the motions.

It's very frustrating because it's impossible to change anything.

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The failure at the VA is intentional to prove "government" can't do anything right.... [View all] Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 OP

I think the VA just can't handle the load of patients. upaloopa May 2014 #1

Like I said, the Republicans did it intentionally.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #2

Could very well be upaloopa May 2014 #3

Not true. maced666 May 2014 #19

How do you know this? upaloopa May 2014 #29

I'm curious as hell, too.......... CatWoman May 2014 #47

Exactly, for 30 years... prairierose May 2014 #4

One of the first things the Bush Administration did was close on base schools.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #9

+1000000 Jamastiene May 2014 #53

The unspoken truth: moondust May 2014 #12

This. ^^^^^^ libnnc May 2014 #39

There's a simple fix madville May 2014 #5

Competition isn't always the answer. That goes back to thinking of health care as a product.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #8

Put the money into TRICARE madville May 2014 #10

I have yet to hear someone explain,.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #14

You can have all the money in the world.. Ballast_Point May 2014 #15

Why do I have a feeling it's been set up as an adversarial system? Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18

The last time I left active duty madville May 2014 #20

Figures. It would be SO EASY to fix that too.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #23

Very true rainbow4321 May 2014 #24

That's just depressing... Ballast_Point May 2014 #25

It is.... rainbow4321 May 2014 #36

Talked about this today with my commander... Ballast_Point May 2014 #41

I've been a federal employee madville May 2014 #57

Depressing- how do you fix it? Lee-Lee May 2014 #58

Ding! Ding! Ding!!! rainbow4321 May 2014 #60

Sad- but this explains a lot of my experiences with the VA Lee-Lee May 2014 #27

No, not NC rainbow4321 May 2014 #32

The saddest thing here Lee-Lee May 2014 #37

That's because there is some truth to it madville May 2014 #59

Sounds like there's too much brass hanging with each other instead of working the line. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #30

They are already doing that with vouchers to go to private sector doctors. Jamastiene May 2014 #54

As a vet I would love private care... Ballast_Point May 2014 #6

Wouldn't it be an improvement if madville May 2014 #7

That's pretty much what I was thinking of... Ballast_Point May 2014 #11

All PEOPLE should have that availability - TBF May 2014 #48

Ironically... Oilwellian May 2014 #13

Republicans are the kind of skum to vote against them and then tell them it's the Dems fault.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #16

This should be an OP. n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #55

Of course they are.. thanks Spitfire. nm Cha May 2014 #17

In this case, they failed. maced666 May 2014 #21

Republicans are playing the heroes again in the hearings.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #22

Regardless of how long it has been broken forthemiddle May 2014 #28

Sounds like the VA has too many levels of administration.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #34

No, they didn't. jeff47 May 2014 #51

Author is absolutely correct! nt MaeScott May 2014 #26

Yes, it is political theater to accomplish a couple of their goals. (Think USPS) Hugin May 2014 #31

The Beltway judges the success or failure of a President by how many things get passed.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #38

Precisely. Hugin May 2014 #40

The public "gets it" all right.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #42

Exactly! n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #56

The "funny" thing about the Walter Reed comparison, IIRC... Wounded Bear May 2014 #33

The corporate media sure loves the idea of profit over all else.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #35

To this end the repubs like to put in their Turbineguy May 2014 #43

"Loyal Bushies" became synonymous with nepotism.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #44

It served two purposes Turbineguy May 2014 #45

I don't think any other country in the world would tolerate Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #46

There are two times Republican like troops sarisataka May 2014 #49

You noticed. It's the same ol' same ol' Grover Norquist ploy. God I hate those people. nt Hekate May 2014 #50

It is the partial privatization of the VA that is causing the problems NOW. Jamastiene May 2014 #52