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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
17. Unfortunately...
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:39 PM
May 2014

for a number of detainees whose own countries will not allow them to be repatriated and who were unquestionably guilty of the crimes they were detained for, that's the worse option of two. They can stay in Gitmo or we can compel them onto their nations of origin who will most likely machine-gun them or torture them to death. They can't be turned over if we believe they will be summarily executed without adjudication...meaning we'd have to put them into a permanent detention facility...like Gitmo.

It's really a lovely boondoggle of a corner the Bush White House painted us into and which we're probably permanently stuck with now. Basically, we can no more close Guantanamo Bay ever than we can time-travel to prevent it opening in the first place.

The die is cast, so to speak.

Edit: To be clear, we can and should be emptying it as much as possible by releasing those we have no reason to detain and who can be released. There's just 15-20% we're just going to be stuck with detaining in Gitmo forever unless we shoot them or try them and move them to Florence ADX.

Edit 2: We're not going to shoot them and trying them is largely impossible...so

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The first positive thing to come out of Gitmo? JJChambers May 2014 #1
yeah, I wonder too. nt Leme May 2014 #3
No wondering needed.. Ballast_Point May 2014 #4
Not if we close GITMO altogether... Cooley Hurd May 2014 #5
Unfortunately... Chan790 May 2014 #17
Are you unaware that this is how wars end? Schema Thing May 2014 #15
that's what I was thinking 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #49
The GOP will not cooperate with BO on moving prisoners out so this is a good kelliekat44 May 2014 #31
This kind of thing has been done since there has been such a thing as war treestar Jun 2014 #54
Too bad that's what it takes to release them The Blue Flower May 2014 #2
with republicans standing in the way of most transfers out of there bigtree May 2014 #6
so it would have been better that the US soldier remained a captive? geek tragedy May 2014 #7
I don't think anyone here has said that bigtree May 2014 #8
Potential consequences? They'll go back home and do their thing. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #10
I say, who the **** knows? bigtree May 2014 #11
update: WH statement bigtree May 2014 #9
kick bigtree May 2014 #12
Holy Shit!!!! It was a RW meme that BHO didn't care about this guy...... msanthrope May 2014 #13
Time to close Gitmo prison. Many there have not even been charged with any crime. buzzcola May 2014 #14
yeah, well bigtree May 2014 #16
Good news all around. Shrike47 May 2014 #18
Great news! JaneyVee May 2014 #19
This is good news. Blue_In_AK May 2014 #20
Wonder how long it'll take for the GOP to start Jake Stern May 2014 #21
Less than two hours. summerschild May 2014 #23
they don't know what they want. Duncan Hunter was griping about his captivity earlier in the year bigtree May 2014 #26
You have no idea what you are talking about and it shows... Ballast_Point May 2014 #41
ha, Ha, HA! bigtree May 2014 #44
Ignorance shouldn't be an excuse... Ballast_Point May 2014 #46
no one except you is debating whether he 'did the right thing' bigtree May 2014 #48
u might need to read up a little more on McGramps n/t 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #50
So glad he's coming home. nt UtahLib May 2014 #22
kick bigtree May 2014 #24
Obama will spreak from the Rose Garden at 6.15pm malaise May 2014 #25
thanks for the heads up, malaise bigtree May 2014 #27
You're welcome bigtree malaise May 2014 #28
I am glad he is coming home.. Egnever May 2014 #29
I'll bet his family doesn't think so bigtree May 2014 #30
I am sure they don't Egnever May 2014 #32
Prisoner swaps have always been risky at the end of military conflicts bigtree May 2014 #33
Fair enough. Egnever May 2014 #40
The prisoners were released to the Qatari government malaise May 2014 #34
ummm... Would not 'the next one kidnapped' feel a bit safer knowing we would negotiate? Ohio Joe May 2014 #36
they wanna wrap up this war coz they got a new one to start? 2pooped2pop May 2014 #35
No. Cha May 2014 #42
K&R Solly Mack May 2014 #37
I hope prisoners on all sides receive help they need to readjust. KittyWampus May 2014 #38
that's up to Qatar bigtree May 2014 #39
Bless his heart.. Sgt Bowe Bergdahl Cha May 2014 #43
The Gitmo detainees swapped for Bergdahl: Who are they? struggle4progress May 2014 #45
Great news! Terra Alta May 2014 #47
great news ! nt steve2470 Jun 2014 #51
I am glad he is home. bravenak Jun 2014 #52
it's certainly worth it bigtree Jun 2014 #53
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