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In reply to the discussion: The real reason the French don’t get fat [View all]bananas
(27,509 posts)35. Nutrition has already been called "woo" here. Next will be "flavor".
Flavor is one kind of qualia, but materialists don't believe in qualia, materialists only believe in zombies.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/
Zombies in philosophy are imaginary creatures used to illuminate problems about consciousness and its relation to the physical world. Unlike those in films or witchraft, they are exactly like us in all physical respects but without conscious experiences: by definition there is nothing it is like to be a zombie. Yet zombies behave just like us, and some even spend a lot of time discussing consciousness.
Zombies in philosophy are imaginary creatures used to illuminate problems about consciousness and its relation to the physical world. Unlike those in films or witchraft, they are exactly like us in all physical respects but without conscious experiences: by definition there is nothing it is like to be a zombie. Yet zombies behave just like us, and some even spend a lot of time discussing consciousness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
A philosophical zombie or p-zombie in the philosophy of mind and perception is a hypothetical being that is indistinguishable from a normal human being except in that it lacks conscious experience, qualia, or sentience.[1] For example, a philosophical zombie could be poked with a sharp object, and not feel any pain sensation, but yet, behave exactly as if it does feel pain (it may say "ouch" and recoil from the stimulus, or tell us that it is in intense pain).
The notion of a philosophical zombie is used mainly in thought experiments intended to support arguments (often called "zombie arguments"
against forms of physicalism such as materialism, behaviorism and functionalism. Physicalism is the idea that all aspects of human nature can be explained by physical means: specifically, all aspects of human nature and perception can be explained from a neurobiological standpoint.
A philosophical zombie or p-zombie in the philosophy of mind and perception is a hypothetical being that is indistinguishable from a normal human being except in that it lacks conscious experience, qualia, or sentience.[1] For example, a philosophical zombie could be poked with a sharp object, and not feel any pain sensation, but yet, behave exactly as if it does feel pain (it may say "ouch" and recoil from the stimulus, or tell us that it is in intense pain).
The notion of a philosophical zombie is used mainly in thought experiments intended to support arguments (often called "zombie arguments"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
Qualia (/ˈkwɑːliə/ or /ˈkweɪliə/; singular form: quale (Latin pronunciation: [ˈkwaːle]) is a term used in philosophy to refer to individual instances of subjective, conscious experience. The term derives from a Latin word meaning for "what sort" or "what kind." Examples of qualia are the pain of a headache, the taste of wine, or the perceived redness of an evening sky.
Daniel Dennett (b. 1942), American philosopher and cognitive scientist, writes that qualia is "an unfamiliar term for something that could not be more familiar to each of us: the ways things seem to us."[1]
Erwin Schrödinger (1887-1961), the famous physicist, had this counter-materialist take:
The importance of qualia in philosophy of mind comes largely from the fact that it is seen as posing a fundamental problem for materialist explanations of the mind-body problem. Much of the debate over their importance hinges on the definition of the term that is used, as various philosophers emphasize or deny the existence of certain features of qualia. As such, the nature and existence of qualia are controversial.
Qualia (/ˈkwɑːliə/ or /ˈkweɪliə/; singular form: quale (Latin pronunciation: [ˈkwaːle]) is a term used in philosophy to refer to individual instances of subjective, conscious experience. The term derives from a Latin word meaning for "what sort" or "what kind." Examples of qualia are the pain of a headache, the taste of wine, or the perceived redness of an evening sky.
Daniel Dennett (b. 1942), American philosopher and cognitive scientist, writes that qualia is "an unfamiliar term for something that could not be more familiar to each of us: the ways things seem to us."[1]
Erwin Schrödinger (1887-1961), the famous physicist, had this counter-materialist take:
The sensation of color cannot be accounted for by the physicist's objective picture of light-waves. Could the physiologist account for it, if he had fuller knowledge than he has of the processes in the retina and the nervous processes set up by them in the optical nerve bundles and in the brain? I do not think so.[2]
The importance of qualia in philosophy of mind comes largely from the fact that it is seen as posing a fundamental problem for materialist explanations of the mind-body problem. Much of the debate over their importance hinges on the definition of the term that is used, as various philosophers emphasize or deny the existence of certain features of qualia. As such, the nature and existence of qualia are controversial.
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i always hated brussels sprouts until i tried some in france. omg! completely different!
unblock
Jun 2014
#2
On of my favorite appetizers is homegrown or farmer's market radishes with sweet corn butter.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#72
Can't find better soil than in the Midwest of the US. (Good soil in parts of Russia too I
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#25
Wine is served there like a soft drink and there is no shortage of bad wine.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#12
It's seems appropriate they are celebrating Thunderbird at the convenience stores
Brother Buzz
Jun 2014
#89
No, he lied, shucked and jived to protect his secret, but idiot spies from Gallo believed him
Brother Buzz
Jun 2014
#93
You can BET that "distancing" is a tax dodge and to SIMULATE competition.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#99
Does Ford Motor Company ask for federal grants and loans to roll out a new product line?
Brother Buzz
Jun 2014
#114
They get LOTS of "incentives" which includes fee waivers, tax breaks and other perks.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#139
Alsatian wines totally rock compared to the same varietal wines from Germany
Brother Buzz
Jun 2014
#125
That's kind of dishonest to make it appear that chaptalisation is the sign of an inferior wine.
Drahthaardogs
Jun 2014
#131
My mom at 97 loves vegetables. She also eats meat, but she loves vegetables.
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#23
Many do, but overall that's not the reason for the much lower rates of obesity.
Arugula Latte
Jun 2014
#96
Sounds right to me. My parents-in-law lived that way untill they died in their late 90's.
enough
Jun 2014
#45
it just has to LOOK like a strawberry. i only eat local fruit/veggies IN SEASON food mainly.
pansypoo53219
Jun 2014
#36
I had a banana in Martinique once, best banana I ever had in my life. We don't get
seaglass
Jun 2014
#40
I need to go to Belize now. Actually I wanted to go before I heard about the bananas. :-) n/t
seaglass
Jun 2014
#149
I think the French as with other countries are getting into the "American Fast Food" race....
a kennedy
Jun 2014
#47
weird. Everytime I dined in France I never felt like I had too little food.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2014
#63
Several years ago on a business trip to California, I discovered how delicious the local
indepat
Jun 2014
#92
Our Oregon strawberry season is just starting. It will only last a few weeks.
Arugula Latte
Jun 2014
#97
I remember fresh Louisiana strawberries from the late 50s/early 60s: what a taste treat
indepat
Jun 2014
#112
Locally grown for taste vs grown elsewhere for shipping qualities is a big thing.
uppityperson
Jun 2014
#108
Also, pretty much all produce in France is grown organically, and organic tends to have more flavor
DesertDiamond
Jun 2014
#122
This person is clueless as to the timetable and logistics of perishable shipping.
Ikonoklast
Jun 2014
#137