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truthseeker68

(15 posts)
62. Blinders on much?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:00 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:51 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't know if Zimmerman is guilty or not in this tragedy. I think it will come down to whose voice is determined to be screaming for help for 40 seconds on the 911 tape. If its Martin"s then Zimmerman's story falls apart and his goose is cooked. But to say there is zero evidence backing his story shows you must have blinders on or watch NBC. Evidence such as:
1) The police report states Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head and had grass stains on his back. That report is evidence which backs Zimmerman's story.
2) The only eye witness that I know of that actually saw at least part of the fight says that Martin was on top pummeling Zimmerman below him and that Zimmerman was the one screaming for help. That eye witness testimony is evidence that backs Zimmerman's story.
3)Zimmerman's neighbor says that Zimmerman had bandages and swelling on his face in the days following the killing. His testimony will be evidence supporting Zimmerman's story
4) Although Zimmerman's history may suggest he could have violent tendencies so does Martin's as evidenced by his school troubles and his Twitter and Facebook accounts. His twitters degradingly referring to women as "bitches and ho's", his posts such as "Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2u!", and his twitter name "No_ Limit_ Nigga, could, if verified to be actually his, be evidence backing Zimmermans story that when he asked Martin what he was doing there, Martin responded by punching him in the face , knocking him to the gound, and pummeling him, by showing that Martin could have developed the thug or "gansta" mentality that has been so destructive to the lives of young black men in this country.

Your comment that the lies just keep piling up is certainly true. NBC was caught red handed doctoring the 911 call to lead their audience to believe that Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin. NBC's doctored version:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

The actual conversation:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.

So instead of NBC's version that icould lead their viewers to think that Zimmerman thought Martin was up to no good because he was black, the actual recording shows that the reason he stated Martin's race is because he was asked by the dispatcher. NBC says they have launched an internal investigation.

The so called "Smoking Gun" ABC police station video ABC decided to show was of low resolution and ABC proclaimed no injuries were evident. But the Sanford police dept. has much higher resolution videos on which it appears you can see injuries to Zimmernan's head.
Why did ABC choose to show the low res version and why did they cover up Zimmerman's head with a breaking news banner when the whole point of the video was to see if he had injuries? High res. version can be found at the link below.

All of the evidence I've presented could be wrong or fabricated. The responding officer, medics, Zimmerman, eye witness, and neighbor, could all be engaging in a conspiracy by concocting a story that Zimmerman sustained injuries that are not evident on the low res. video ABC chose to show. I tend to doubt it.

I used to wonder how in the world supposedly normal humans could in the last century be ginned up through hatred into a mob mentality to lynch or convict blacks while totally ignoring any exculpatory facts or evidence.

I see that mindset in your "zero evidence" post






http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsanfordfl.gov%2Finvestigation%2Ftrayvon_martin.html&h=yAQHJLWZ6

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As soon as he pursued the kid, instead of listening to the 911 cop, he was guilty of something. onehandle Mar 2012 #1
Exactly right. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #18
911 operators aren't cops. That alone is not any type of offense. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #26
His first call was not to 911. He called dispatch directly. notadmblnd Apr 2012 #35
Don't know but . . . caseymoz Mar 2012 #2
I think we have to wait until all the evidence is in and the jury JDPriestly Mar 2012 #3
So how do you form opinions on non-criminal issues? bluedigger Apr 2012 #41
I weigh the facts and evidence available to me in the light of my JDPriestly Apr 2012 #114
His ass is as guilty as HOMEMADE SIN! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #4
I concur, Ecumenist! Number23 Apr 2012 #23
yup, he murdered Trayvon JI7 Mar 2012 #5
If he hadn't, there wouldn't be this ridiculous coverup. juajen Mar 2012 #6
Murder has a legal meaning Lithos Mar 2012 #7
Are you suggesting a Lie Detection test? Because I am. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #8
Manslaughter at minimum, renegade000 Mar 2012 #9
The is zero evidence to support Zimmerman's lies about self-defense... Kalidurga Apr 2012 #10
Blinders on much? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #62
talk about blinders. robinlynne Apr 2012 #64
we'll see truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #69
Your last point, wtf? This is not just about the death of a young man, but about ignoring uppityperson Apr 2012 #71
reply truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #77
Yup. You miss the point. Even when it is explained, you still don't see it. uppityperson Apr 2012 #78
The point truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #83
Zimmy's history "may suggest" he could have violent tendencies? So does Trayvon's? wtf? uppityperson Apr 2012 #89
Please don't put words in my mouth truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #97
It is you saying you have given "evidence" to support Zimmy's story that is getting us here. uppityperson Apr 2012 #98
Sorry, Wasn't accusing you of the racist, RW comment. truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #106
No. It was Hugabear. And no, you are not the victim or the only caring one. uppityperson Apr 2012 #109
What???? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #115
K&R if you think Zimmerman is guilty of murder uppityperson Apr 2012 #116
I read the definition truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #112
Did you really sign up here to post 3 threads about gangsta culture? K Gardner Apr 2012 #84
Hi K Gardner truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #87
What "evidence" did you post? uppityperson Apr 2012 #91
Gangsta culture, really? Hugabear Apr 2012 #88
You don't live in a big city do you. truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #90
Yup, white and hispanic guys driving around shooting black kids is "gansta" culture.Why are you here uppityperson Apr 2012 #93
Thug culture then truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #101
Who says it is racist to discuss it? Edited. uppityperson Apr 2012 #103
You misunderstood truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #107
What is it then? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #108
K&R if you think Zimmerman is guilty of murder? Threadjack link definition... uppityperson Apr 2012 #110
Poverty. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #118
+ a brazillion. Poverty is the base of those problems. uppityperson Apr 2012 #120
A black child was gunned down while he walked home with his skittles and iced tea. TBF Apr 2012 #117
4 black unarmed inncocnet people have been shot by white men in the past few months. half robinlynne Apr 2012 #122
So the rposecutor drive 60 milews perosnally at night to let the guy out of jail.. robinlynne Apr 2012 #125
Two voice analysts have come to the conclusion that it was not Zimmerman's voice.. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #79
Like I said truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #86
K&R varelse Apr 2012 #11
If I had to place a bet The Traveler Apr 2012 #12
It is a matter of common sense. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #13
Guilty. K&R Stardust Apr 2012 #14
From what I have heard, it sounds like it loyalsister Apr 2012 #15
The thing is... Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author loyalsister Apr 2012 #21
I'm not convinced that loyalsister Apr 2012 #22
K&R I can't take Duct Tape Apr 2012 #17
K&R. nt DesertFlower Apr 2012 #19
I do, and they're blatantly allowing him to get away with it ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #20
He's innocent until proven guilty, but he sure looks ripe for a guilty verdict. Shanti Mama Apr 2012 #24
Cold Blooded Killer. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #25
yep. barbtries Apr 2012 #27
when he followed after being advised not to, it became stalking magical thyme Apr 2012 #28
Yep malaise Apr 2012 #29
k&r rbrnmw Apr 2012 #30
An unconscious racist, at best, but Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #31
K&R. n/t DLevine Apr 2012 #32
100th rec leveymg Apr 2012 #33
Manslaughter at the least, murder at the most. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #34
I think Zimmerman was a cop wannabe. Who was looking for trouble. OllieLotte Apr 2012 #36
K&R MoonRiver Apr 2012 #37
I will wait for all the evidence to come out so we can see how exactly things went down. xoom Apr 2012 #38
Manslaughter at a minimum. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #39
k&r bluedigger Apr 2012 #40
Yes. Stalking and murder. I don't know the term in legalese for it, but I hope he gets to spend polly7 Apr 2012 #42
Or at the very minimum.. 99Forever Apr 2012 #43
absolutely quilty riverwalker Apr 2012 #44
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #45
. libodem Apr 2012 #46
K&R I remember case which claimed self defense long before this and they at least were invest- jwirr Apr 2012 #47
Head vs Concrete brush Apr 2012 #48
Great first post. Welcome to DU. Hugabear Apr 2012 #60
Thanks brush Apr 2012 #105
It is disgusting fightforfreedom123 Apr 2012 #49
K&R Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #50
Was hoping to find out what K&R was ffr Apr 2012 #51
K&R means "kick and recommend." "nt" means "no text." yardwork Apr 2012 #56
I don't know. ChadwickHenryWard Apr 2012 #52
He killed Trayvon. lunatica Apr 2012 #53
He is guilty of SOMETHING, but i can't accurately say if it was manslaughter or not. slampoet Apr 2012 #54
K&R yardwork Apr 2012 #55
That's like saying "K&R if you think the sky is blue" nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #57
Yep. Jawja Apr 2012 #58
. stuntcat Apr 2012 #59
No doubt Zimmerman is a killer workinclasszero Apr 2012 #61
I will wait for the court nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #63
I don't think it will be impossible to find a jury Hugabear Apr 2012 #65
Killerman is guilty. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #66
Does writing this OP feel good? SOLICITING these kinds of responses from others will aid the Defense patrice Apr 2012 #67
You honestly believe that? Hugabear Apr 2012 #68
"Stand Your Ground" isn't Supposed to Mean "Hunt Down and Kill" AndyTiedye Apr 2012 #70
Yes. k&r nt frogmarch Apr 2012 #72
from what I've read, I think he has earned an arrest and a trial elias7 Apr 2012 #73
He is...but consider his background and... SunDrop23 Apr 2012 #74
Kick! qanda Apr 2012 #75
yep marshall gaines Apr 2012 #76
As an attorney, I cannot state he is guilty of murder but...... Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #80
Anyone who doesn't think this mainstreetonce Apr 2012 #81
K&R obietiger Apr 2012 #82
k&r yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2012 #85
I surely do. H2O Man Apr 2012 #92
Absolutely without question. The more the evidence stacks up the more lies are exposed Initech Apr 2012 #94
Zimmerman is as guilty as the rhetoric surrounding the defense of his actions. Kencorburn Apr 2012 #95
K&R Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #96
K&R At this time I feel he should be arrested and prosecuted ... spin Apr 2012 #99
K&R from a gun owner. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #100
Finally, someone said it. Kencorburn Apr 2012 #104
K & R BigDemVoter Apr 2012 #102
K&R....n/t unkachuck Apr 2012 #111
k&r Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #113
K&R nt hifiguy Apr 2012 #119
+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #121
Oh hell yes, I think beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Rex Apr 2012 #123
guilty noiretextatique Apr 2012 #124
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