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In reply to the discussion: The Goal of Wholesale Surveillance [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)17. Bush and Cheney and all their enablers and cronies going back decades...
...if not a century. For lack of a better handle, Bartcop called Them the "BFEE" for the Bush Family Evil Empire. I borrowed the term, finding them the public face of the secret government in service to the wealthy and their holdings. As an old person who remembers what life was like during JFK's administration, I find America's history since November 22, 1963 to be one long slog of war, which is why the words of the selected "president" George W Bush to be particularly telling:
"Money trumps peace." Uttered at a press conference at the White House on Feb. 14, 2007 in which not a single of the callow, cowed press corpse saw fit to ask a follow-up.
One person who bothered to bring it to our attention is the mother of a serviceman killed defending the nation in a war based on a lie, Cindy Sheehan.
As for his Poppy: Bush Sr told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Vietnam hit the fan less than a year later, opening up many business opportunities for the connected which continue to the present day.
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Welcome, surgence. I think Octafish was posting for the benefit of all DU readers. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2014
#35
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#4
They are never 'gone'. They leave the public stage and continue their 'work' offstage.
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#24
Germany collected info on Jews too once upon a time. I know it's not an exact comparison but...
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#6
No. The illegal domestic surveillance continues under the current administration.
Octafish
Jun 2014
#19
I think it's a perfectly legitimate comparison. The East German Stasi also spied on the people.
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#25
And today they have the ultimate tools, basically prying into everyone's mind. It's dangerous and
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#29
Sometimes I feel like we're moving right back into the McCarthy era. It's hard to tell
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#34
I think if it was announced that WalMart had been given a contract to inject all of us
djean111
Jun 2014
#51
Also, Bush did not claim the authority to execute American citizens without due process.
Maedhros
Jun 2014
#59
Combine the power of being able to cherrypick any situation, word, or phrase out of context...
Shandris
Jun 2014
#44
30,000 Drones, cameras @ every intersection & all along the freeways. And next, cameras/microphones
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#65
Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#58
+1. Right back to the 1930s, perhaps. But this time, there are no good guys to come to the rescue.
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#67
You'll be "disappeared," and the people that question your whereabouts will be threatened.
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#62
The goal is actually to create a steady source of income for govt. surveillance contractors...
MrScorpio
Jun 2014
#72
They get to pick and choose who the gate keepers are and reward them accordingly
MrScorpio
Jun 2014
#79