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In reply to the discussion: Message auto-removed [View all]Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)13. You tell me:
His own words:
And yet few problems are more pressing. Over the past several years, illegal immigrants have poured into the United States by the millions. The wave of illegals entering the country is steadily increasing. The people living in the border states of California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico know this flow has to be drastically slowed and then halted. The situation is so dire in that region that the Democratic Governors of Arizona and New Mexico were forced to declare States of Emergency as a result of the flow of illegals into their states and the resulting, massive problems which it brings.
The parade of evils caused by illegal immigration is widely known, and it gets worse every day. In short, illegal immigration wreaks havoc economically, socially, and culturally; makes a mockery of the rule of law; and is disgraceful just on basic fairness grounds alone. Few people dispute this, and yet nothing is done.
SNIP......
But one of the most disturbing and destructive aspects of illegal immigration is that it is illegal. Indeed, that is the precise attribute which separates good immigration from bad immigration. Why should Republicans, or anyone, shy away from pointing out that illegal immigration, among its many evils, is illegal? That is just absurd. Moreover, it is precisely the fact that illegal immigrants enter the country illegally that spawns justifiable resentment, not only among large clusters of middle-of-the-road voters, but also among the very legal immigrant population about which Sanchez is so concerned. Emphasizing the "illegal" part of this problem is what Republicans need to do more of, not less.
SNIP..
The real irony here is that the problem of illegal immigration is actually one of the very few of the ever-dwindling number of issues that has the opportunity to forge common ground among factions of voters which are, these days, engaged in a ceaseless war with each other. Being worried, and outraged, about illegal immigration is not confined to the extreme precincts of conservatism. Middle-class suburban voters whose primary concerns are local and pragmatic, rather than ideological, know the danger which illegal immigration poses to their communities and to their states, and they want something done about it.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/gop-fights-itself-on-illegal.html
The parade of evils caused by illegal immigration is widely known, and it gets worse every day. In short, illegal immigration wreaks havoc economically, socially, and culturally; makes a mockery of the rule of law; and is disgraceful just on basic fairness grounds alone. Few people dispute this, and yet nothing is done.
SNIP......
But one of the most disturbing and destructive aspects of illegal immigration is that it is illegal. Indeed, that is the precise attribute which separates good immigration from bad immigration. Why should Republicans, or anyone, shy away from pointing out that illegal immigration, among its many evils, is illegal? That is just absurd. Moreover, it is precisely the fact that illegal immigrants enter the country illegally that spawns justifiable resentment, not only among large clusters of middle-of-the-road voters, but also among the very legal immigrant population about which Sanchez is so concerned. Emphasizing the "illegal" part of this problem is what Republicans need to do more of, not less.
SNIP..
The real irony here is that the problem of illegal immigration is actually one of the very few of the ever-dwindling number of issues that has the opportunity to forge common ground among factions of voters which are, these days, engaged in a ceaseless war with each other. Being worried, and outraged, about illegal immigration is not confined to the extreme precincts of conservatism. Middle-class suburban voters whose primary concerns are local and pragmatic, rather than ideological, know the danger which illegal immigration poses to their communities and to their states, and they want something done about it.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/gop-fights-itself-on-illegal.html
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Because he was a supporter of Bush his invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. nt
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#3
But it seems to me that those people who attack Snowden and Greenwald for their support
MannyGoldstein
Jun 2014
#95
So, in your opinion, people aren't speaking out enough against Hillary and her vote?
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#98
That is a fucking lie, and I'm damn sick of you and your friends constantly hammering on it!
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#14
Can you imagine if a DUer said those nice things about the Mass Murdering Dim Son
Whisp
Jun 2014
#110
I want to hear more about how Greenwald thought Bush the Chimperor Idiot Son made eloquent speeches.
Whisp
Jun 2014
#66
So fucking what? It's in the forward to his book, he's admitting he was ignorant at the time.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#76
Well, you CAN be damn sure that he wasn't supporting Bush and the wars in all the years
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#99
To save his "ignorant skin" from what? Spell it out.Step by step. What was he saving.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#111
So he did indeed support Bush and his wars just like my first post in this thread had stated.
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#71
Okay, AGAIN - this is from the forward to his book where he explains where he was at BEFORE
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#94
When you leave out the rest, for context, yes, it is indeed a lie. A lie of omission. Like I said.nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2014
#115
Your first link is to a blog post by someone doing the exact same smear job you're doing.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#145
And it's a totally dishonest smear, since he never wrote a single word supporting Bush.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#102
As she should be. Because she stands by that support. Greenwald rejected it...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#126
I had no comfort to offer to my little girl who knew little girls were being bombed.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#154
Looking forward to seeing your posts 2016. I'll have to keep my mouth shut like I had to in 2012.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#156
I don't understand why you are so obsessed with him. It seems kind of creepy. nt
Mojorabbit
Jun 2014
#165
I usually avoid it. I've only gotten down in the dirt with these folks one other time.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#150
GG's exact quote from one his books on his "trust in the Bush admin".. he sounds like an idiot..
Cha
Jun 2014
#35
'the swift removal of the Taliban in Afghanistan''?! That sure stands the hell out doesn't? So
Cha
Jun 2014
#48
Greenwald also referred to Benghazi as a scandal and railed against undocumented immigrants. nt
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#6
LOL....Greenwald says something and then backs away when it's convenient...
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#36
You have a lot of big fucking nerve talking "Obama cultist" with your little altar set up to
Cha
Jun 2014
#38
Oh, your hero GG called us "Obama cultists".. excuse the hell out of me. Fuck off Greenwald..
Cha
Jun 2014
#50
Yeah, GG can dish it out but he can't handle any criticism.. he comes back with his stupid insults..
Cha
Jun 2014
#52
Greenwald is a singularly clueless "ratfucker" as when he "expertly previewed the 2012 election"..
Cha
Jun 2014
#27
LOL!!! That video is AWESOME!!! Greenwald wanted so badly for Romney to win. nt
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2014
#29
Let me ask you what truths the Libertarians and the Republicans with their willnot Teabaggers
Whisp
Jun 2014
#53
He doesn't want to answer your question so he tries to distract with some red herring about
Cha
Jun 2014
#70
Yep, he's an idiot Libertarian who calls us "Obama cultists" and then his fans wonder why the
Cha
Jun 2014
#60
Just bear in mind that the "controversy" is being carried out by dedicated ratfuckers.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#112
well, it worked out and he was able to come back, and just in time to promote the book and make
JI7
Jun 2014
#67
What do you feel the gist of the hostility is from now that you've gotten some answers?
Agschmid
Jun 2014
#80
double plus ungood! more perplexing to me isn't the hate but the compulsion to restate it 10x daily
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2014
#87