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In reply to the discussion: "Men's Rights" cracks me up. [View all]one_voice
(20,043 posts)218. Oh dear. I feel like I need to explain my comment.
First I didn't say all HoF were the worst people ever.
This is what I said:
You and many others in HoF are some of the worst people I've ever come across.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5024799
But I will admit to a mistake and apologize. I didn't mean to say 'many' (bolded) that should have said few.
this was the second part of what I said (which you conveniently leave out):
I like many of the people in HoF. I think many of them are extremely intelligent, funny, and offer women's causes a lot I enjoy reading all of their posts. It's disappointing that a handful put such nasty tone to the group.
Now you seem to have taken quite an issue with my statement. So much in fact you've misrepresented (I'm being polite here) what I said.
You've climbed up and nailed yourself to your cross of martyrdom. Let me be of some assistance to get down off that cross.
I don't like hypocrites or posers. I think they're dishonest people and only interested in 'puffing' up themselves. When you pick and choose what women are 'good' feminist that's what you are/what you're doing. When you make nasty comments because another women may see a situation a little differently, possibly based on her life experiences, it reminds of a man telling a woman what she needs/what she should think. You don't have the lock down on what makes someone a good woman or feminist.
You guys go to your safe haven and think it's ok to mock and talk about people. That's high school. Are you still in high school? Is that what the safe haven is for? My understanding was that it was to discuss women's/feminists issues; not other DU'ers, that don't live up to your expectations.
I have a hard time believing you really want discuss/further women's issues when you (and a few others) are so combative/nasty/mocking toward anyone that doesn't fall in line.
That's my observation and my opinion. Which I'm entitled to. Maybe I'm wrong. In the minority. I'm ok with that. I've never been a follower.
This here is crap
i dunno. i think it is worse to call a group of women, the worse people ever than to compare a person to an obedient and loyal dog.
When Riff was called a dog it was meant as an insult. She was being ridiculed for getting along with the men's group--you know the group that y'all like to refer to as the mra group.
Also:
i can say is a pitbull of feminists.
Calling yourself a pitbull or a friend in this context isn't the same as above.
I will give y'all (a very few) this you really are good at back peddling, two stepping, trying to change the context and act as though it's the same, changing the subject, diversion, twisting people words/adding to them. It's definitely a talent. fYI, that the same kind of non insult as the loyal dog comment.
I hope this clarifies what I said. Please don't change what I say. I don't like that. I will own what I say. I didn't say this:
hof women being the very worst people ever.
I didn't say what you said in the comment I'm replying to either. Yes, in this situation, clarifying whether I said 'all' is important--because I didn't say that.
Have a pleasant evening.
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And of course, you know some dude somewhere is thinking the same thing in all seriousness...
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#17
It's your white male, wasting money on coffee, right that female barristas should flirt with you.
hunter
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#69
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#44
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LanternWaste
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IN CRISIS, can you give me an example of a crisis they would be in that would be mocked?
randys1
May 2014
#77
You and many others in HoF are some of the worst people I've ever come across.
seabeyond
May 2014
#163
totally ignore.... the worst people ever. i would say amazing violet, but it is
seabeyond
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#166
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Violet_Crumble
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#167
don't make up something out of the blue. that is dishonest. the issue. 170 post. me? 1 post. you...?
seabeyond
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#171
ah. well, you see. like i explain to you often. when reading your posts to me, as soon
seabeyond
Jun 2014
#196
There's as much morphing as there was an attempt from you to answer the question I asked seabeyond..
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#170
i compared feminists, me, hof to pavlov dogs the other day. it was appropriate.
seabeyond
Jun 2014
#203
I wasn't clear. I was calling the author of that op-ed a fucking idiot. Not you. Sorry.
opiate69
May 2014
#133
because human rights violations are a real thing, and men's rights
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2014
#198
How do you think people should react to the angst these men have because they've lost power
redqueen
May 2014
#50
The only place I consider the term "Men's Rights" relevant is with respect to child custody
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May 2014
#33
Hey Will... I Don't Know What It Is... Chivalry... Women And Children First... Generational...
WillyT
May 2014
#80
Disrupting serious conversations about rights with petty grievnces about not getting dates and
bettyellen
May 2014
#124
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Jester Messiah
May 2014
#160
the OP is against MRA groups, not individual's rights. Hope that helps your confusion!
bettyellen
May 2014
#95
Whatever levity I got from the mens' rights movement, I lost over at Discussionist.com
Paladin
May 2014
#156
Some of us have been trying to raise awareness of these dangerous hate groups for years.
redqueen
May 2014
#157
Men are more the problem on DU than what we've been seeing 24-7 ad nauseum from some feminists?
pacalo
Jun 2014
#187
straight rights and white rights are also pretty funny. while we are at it.
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2014
#199
Lioness- what do you call it when people pretend they are unaware of any larger context? Like here,
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#204
HA. I thought you'd have a great academic term for it, since you know... people have great respect
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#215