"Men's Rights" cracks me up.

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219. Yes, I was talking about that comment...

And the only reason I was doing that was because you brought it up initially here.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that because someone think that comment was a sexist slur that they think it's more grievous than anything else. It doesn't work that way. Next time you point out to someone that a word or comment is sexist, how would you like it if someone appeared and said 'Hold on! Yr complaining about that, but you don't say anything about death and rape threats?'. I don't think you'd like it at all, and might even view it as a diversionary tactic. If you asked me how I felt about that incident yr talking about, I'd tell you I totally understand the shock and disgust the recipient of that must have felt, because I received similar back when I was arguing with anti-choicers and one of those Army of God creeps decided to tell me in graphic detail what he'd like to do to me with a mop handle (serves me right for the mop handle theme by naming myself after the suckiest Pearl Jam song ever made. I guess). I felt shock and revulsion when I read it, so that's how I know how it feels. I'm not sure what else you want me to say. As for accusing you of being unhinged, that's totally out of line, and if I was on a jury I'd vote to hide in an instant.

Yr correct that people are going to disagree. That's why I was so disappointed to see women who saw a comment made about another woman as being a sexist insult being dismissed and sometimes insulted by a few people. I know because both times I've asked for an interpretation that wasn't a sexist insult, I've been greeted with incivility and claims of hating some people and being buddies with others and blah blah blah when the reality is that it was the comment itself that I took issue with. And discussing sexism, and part of that is sexist comments aimed at women, is one of the issues that matter as part of being a feminist. Like you, I'd prefer it if people stuck to the issues rather than all that 'You hate me!!!' and 'No, you hate me!!!' making it personal stuff.

After reading a few of the newer posts in this thread today, I just want to be clear that I don't hate anyone, and as a co-founder of HoF, and a member of the group, I'm the last person who'd hate the group. Like One Voice, I think there's some great DUers posting in there, who do post about feminist issues and post stuff that's worth reading, which is why I pop in and post every now and again. But like many groups of people, and I could use being pro-Palestinian as an example of that, there's also one or two who I've decided not to engage with in any way because there's no agree to disagree setting available for them and things always seem to end up nasty when there's disagreement between them and other feminists on specific aspects of feminism.

Thanks for hearing me out