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In reply to the discussion: The Goal of Wholesale Surveillance [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)78. That's a happy benefit for the Secret Keepers...
...like Carlyle Group -- always working the "inside angle" if you know what I mean.
When War is Swell
Bushs Crusades and the Carlyle Group
by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, WEEKEND EDITION MAY 22-24, 2004
Across all fronts, Bushs war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 800, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Baathists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.
Still not all of the presidents men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtels triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.
Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his sons war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. Theyve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you dont need to hire lobbyists..
Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesnt negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyles behalf.
One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osamas half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyles accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.
SNIP...
In 2002, Carlyle sold off its biggest holding, United Defense. The sale may have been prompted by insider information leaked to Carlucci by his pal Rumsfeld. In early 2001, Carlyle was furiously lobbying the Pentagon to approve contracts for the production of United Defenses Crusader artillery system, an unwieldy and outrageously expensive super-cannon. Rumsfeld disliked the Crusader and had it high on his hit list of weapon systems to be killed off in order to save money for other big ticket schemes, particularly the Strategic Defense Initiative.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/05/22/bush-s-crusades-and-the-carlyle-group/
These same fine folks now own Booze Allen Hamilton, the Big Time NSA contractor.
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Welcome, surgence. I think Octafish was posting for the benefit of all DU readers. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2014
#35
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#4
They are never 'gone'. They leave the public stage and continue their 'work' offstage.
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#24
Germany collected info on Jews too once upon a time. I know it's not an exact comparison but...
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#6
No. The illegal domestic surveillance continues under the current administration.
Octafish
Jun 2014
#19
I think it's a perfectly legitimate comparison. The East German Stasi also spied on the people.
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#25
And today they have the ultimate tools, basically prying into everyone's mind. It's dangerous and
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#29
Sometimes I feel like we're moving right back into the McCarthy era. It's hard to tell
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#34
I think if it was announced that WalMart had been given a contract to inject all of us
djean111
Jun 2014
#51
Also, Bush did not claim the authority to execute American citizens without due process.
Maedhros
Jun 2014
#59
Combine the power of being able to cherrypick any situation, word, or phrase out of context...
Shandris
Jun 2014
#44
30,000 Drones, cameras @ every intersection & all along the freeways. And next, cameras/microphones
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#65
Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#58
+1. Right back to the 1930s, perhaps. But this time, there are no good guys to come to the rescue.
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#67
You'll be "disappeared," and the people that question your whereabouts will be threatened.
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#62
The goal is actually to create a steady source of income for govt. surveillance contractors...
MrScorpio
Jun 2014
#72
They get to pick and choose who the gate keepers are and reward them accordingly
MrScorpio
Jun 2014
#79