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AndyTiedye

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70. "Stand Your Ground" isn't Supposed to Mean "Hunt Down and Kill"

Sun Apr 1, 2012, 04:51 PM

Apr 2012

Trayvon Martin was found lying face-down. Usually someone who is shot from the front would not fall forward.

The video. No blood, not bandages, no bruises, no sign whatsoever that Z'man had been in a fight for his life.
The medics cleaned him up, they say. I guess they stopped at the all-night dry-cleaners to clean up
his clothing too. No blood on that at all. Shoulda been lots, between the broken nose, the head gash,
and Trayvon bleeding out onto him from being shot in the chest at close range. No grass stains either.

The screaming wasn't Z either. We now have two experts that confirm what everybody except the Sanford PD
and the Z'man fan club already knew.

The undertaker didn't see any signs that Trayvon had been in a fist fight.

Zimmerman, and evidently the people who run things in Sanford, think of "Stand Your Ground" as open season on black people.

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K&R if you think Zimmerman is guilty of murder [View all] Hugabear Mar 2012 OP

As soon as he pursued the kid, instead of listening to the 911 cop, he was guilty of something. onehandle Mar 2012 #1

Exactly right. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #18

911 operators aren't cops. That alone is not any type of offense. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #26

His first call was not to 911. He called dispatch directly. notadmblnd Apr 2012 #35

Don't know but . . . caseymoz Mar 2012 #2

I think we have to wait until all the evidence is in and the jury JDPriestly Mar 2012 #3

So how do you form opinions on non-criminal issues? bluedigger Apr 2012 #41

I weigh the facts and evidence available to me in the light of my JDPriestly Apr 2012 #114

His ass is as guilty as HOMEMADE SIN! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #4

I concur, Ecumenist! Number23 Apr 2012 #23

yup, he murdered Trayvon JI7 Mar 2012 #5

If he hadn't, there wouldn't be this ridiculous coverup. juajen Mar 2012 #6

Murder has a legal meaning Lithos Mar 2012 #7

Are you suggesting a Lie Detection test? Because I am. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #8

Manslaughter at minimum, renegade000 Mar 2012 #9

The is zero evidence to support Zimmerman's lies about self-defense... Kalidurga Apr 2012 #10

Blinders on much? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #62

talk about blinders. robinlynne Apr 2012 #64

we'll see truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #69

Your last point, wtf? This is not just about the death of a young man, but about ignoring uppityperson Apr 2012 #71

reply truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #77

Yup. You miss the point. Even when it is explained, you still don't see it. uppityperson Apr 2012 #78

The point truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #83

Zimmy's history "may suggest" he could have violent tendencies? So does Trayvon's? wtf? uppityperson Apr 2012 #89

Please don't put words in my mouth truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #97

It is you saying you have given "evidence" to support Zimmy's story that is getting us here. uppityperson Apr 2012 #98

Sorry, Wasn't accusing you of the racist, RW comment. truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #106

No. It was Hugabear. And no, you are not the victim or the only caring one. uppityperson Apr 2012 #109

What???? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #115

K&R if you think Zimmerman is guilty of murder uppityperson Apr 2012 #116

I read the definition truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #112

Did you really sign up here to post 3 threads about gangsta culture? K Gardner Apr 2012 #84

Hi K Gardner truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #87

What "evidence" did you post? uppityperson Apr 2012 #91

Gangsta culture, really? Hugabear Apr 2012 #88

You don't live in a big city do you. truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #90

Yup, white and hispanic guys driving around shooting black kids is "gansta" culture.Why are you here uppityperson Apr 2012 #93

Thug culture then truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #101

Who says it is racist to discuss it? Edited. uppityperson Apr 2012 #103

You misunderstood truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #107

What is it then? truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #108

K&R if you think Zimmerman is guilty of murder? Threadjack link definition... uppityperson Apr 2012 #110

Poverty. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #118

+ a brazillion. Poverty is the base of those problems. uppityperson Apr 2012 #120

A black child was gunned down while he walked home with his skittles and iced tea. TBF Apr 2012 #117

4 black unarmed inncocnet people have been shot by white men in the past few months. half robinlynne Apr 2012 #122

So the rposecutor drive 60 milews perosnally at night to let the guy out of jail.. robinlynne Apr 2012 #125

Two voice analysts have come to the conclusion that it was not Zimmerman's voice.. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #79

Like I said truthseeker68 Apr 2012 #86

K&R varelse Apr 2012 #11

If I had to place a bet The Traveler Apr 2012 #12

It is a matter of common sense. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #13

Guilty. K&R Stardust Apr 2012 #14

From what I have heard, it sounds like it loyalsister Apr 2012 #15

The thing is... Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author loyalsister Apr 2012 #21

I'm not convinced that loyalsister Apr 2012 #22

K&R I can't take Duct Tape Apr 2012 #17

K&R. nt DesertFlower Apr 2012 #19

I do, and they're blatantly allowing him to get away with it ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #20

He's innocent until proven guilty, but he sure looks ripe for a guilty verdict. Shanti Mama Apr 2012 #24

Cold Blooded Killer. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #25

yep. barbtries Apr 2012 #27

when he followed after being advised not to, it became stalking magical thyme Apr 2012 #28

Yep malaise Apr 2012 #29

k&r rbrnmw Apr 2012 #30

An unconscious racist, at best, but Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #31

K&R. n/t DLevine Apr 2012 #32

100th rec leveymg Apr 2012 #33

Manslaughter at the least, murder at the most. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #34

I think Zimmerman was a cop wannabe. Who was looking for trouble. OllieLotte Apr 2012 #36

K&R MoonRiver Apr 2012 #37

I will wait for all the evidence to come out so we can see how exactly things went down. xoom Apr 2012 #38

Manslaughter at a minimum. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #39

k&r bluedigger Apr 2012 #40

Yes. Stalking and murder. I don't know the term in legalese for it, but I hope he gets to spend polly7 Apr 2012 #42

Or at the very minimum.. 99Forever Apr 2012 #43

absolutely quilty riverwalker Apr 2012 #44

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #45

. libodem Apr 2012 #46

K&R I remember case which claimed self defense long before this and they at least were invest- jwirr Apr 2012 #47

Head vs Concrete brush Apr 2012 #48

Great first post. Welcome to DU. Hugabear Apr 2012 #60

Thanks brush Apr 2012 #105

It is disgusting fightforfreedom123 Apr 2012 #49

K&R Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #50

Was hoping to find out what K&R was ffr Apr 2012 #51

K&R means "kick and recommend." "nt" means "no text." yardwork Apr 2012 #56

I don't know. ChadwickHenryWard Apr 2012 #52

He killed Trayvon. lunatica Apr 2012 #53

He is guilty of SOMETHING, but i can't accurately say if it was manslaughter or not. slampoet Apr 2012 #54

K&R yardwork Apr 2012 #55

That's like saying "K&R if you think the sky is blue" nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #57

Yep. Jawja Apr 2012 #58

. stuntcat Apr 2012 #59

No doubt Zimmerman is a killer workinclasszero Apr 2012 #61

I will wait for the court nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #63

I don't think it will be impossible to find a jury Hugabear Apr 2012 #65

Killerman is guilty. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #66

Does writing this OP feel good? SOLICITING these kinds of responses from others will aid the Defense patrice Apr 2012 #67

You honestly believe that? Hugabear Apr 2012 #68

"Stand Your Ground" isn't Supposed to Mean "Hunt Down and Kill" AndyTiedye Apr 2012 #70

Yes. k&r nt frogmarch Apr 2012 #72

from what I've read, I think he has earned an arrest and a trial elias7 Apr 2012 #73

He is...but consider his background and... SunDrop23 Apr 2012 #74

Kick! qanda Apr 2012 #75

yep marshall gaines Apr 2012 #76

As an attorney, I cannot state he is guilty of murder but...... Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #80

Anyone who doesn't think this mainstreetonce Apr 2012 #81

K&R obietiger Apr 2012 #82

k&r yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2012 #85

I surely do. H2O Man Apr 2012 #92

Absolutely without question. The more the evidence stacks up the more lies are exposed Initech Apr 2012 #94

Zimmerman is as guilty as the rhetoric surrounding the defense of his actions. Kencorburn Apr 2012 #95

K&R Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #96

K&R At this time I feel he should be arrested and prosecuted ... spin Apr 2012 #99

K&R from a gun owner. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #100

Finally, someone said it. Kencorburn Apr 2012 #104

K & R BigDemVoter Apr 2012 #102

K&R....n/t unkachuck Apr 2012 #111

k&r Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #113

K&R nt hifiguy Apr 2012 #119

+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #121

Oh hell yes, I think beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Rex Apr 2012 #123

guilty noiretextatique Apr 2012 #124