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Oilwellian

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3. The American people have to continue beating this drum

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:39 PM

Jun 2014

until the illegal spying stops. We cannot call ourselves a democracy when transparency is demanded of the people while our government operates in the dark. It's supposed to be the other way around.

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Chomsky:The White House seems determined to demolish the foundations of our civil liberties" [View all] Oilwellian Jun 2014 OP

Good article, read it earlier. Sad where we are now. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #1

The American people have to continue beating this drum Oilwellian Jun 2014 #3

It's been smoke and mirrors for so long. They really don't care what 'We the People' think one iota. Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #17

Its disappointing that so many people aren't getting it! Rockyj Jun 2014 #80

And so many people support that police state. alarimer Jun 2014 #117

Uh Oh billhicks76 Jun 2014 #13

They can keep their heads in fan heaven, it doesn't change the Truth. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #18

Truth A Dirty Word To Some billhicks76 Jun 2014 #19

It is the foulest word to those that seek power and money. There used to be Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #35

What's the dungeon? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #40

It is now called 'Creative Speculation', under Offbeat listing. It is bad there. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #47

Free Speech Zone? Lol billhicks76 Jun 2014 #49

Agree completely. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #64

I visit there a lot! wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #53

I read you there, Bill! I never comment anymore or I would be banned. Strange though, how the same Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #66

thank you very much Mnemosyne. wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #126

It HAS failed, a majority of people do not believe the official story of 9/11. I don't know why sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #67

I made the mistake of saying that I haven't nyabingi Jun 2014 #93

Sooner or later the truth will out and many of us will be vindicated. Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #103

I hope the truth does come out one day nyabingi Jun 2014 #105

Less was spent investigating 9/11 than Clinton's penis. I consider 9/11 the culmination of PNAC's Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #110

Kissinger billhicks76 Jun 2014 #120

Suspect billhicks76 Jun 2014 #119

Good observation malokvale77 Jun 2014 #116

As My Daddy Said People Do What's In Their Own Interests billhicks76 Jun 2014 #121

As my father said... malokvale77 Jun 2014 #124

not just scamming us but.... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #125

Yes malokvale77 Jun 2014 #127

Who said... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #2

If one has to ask it may make the question superfluous. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2014 #9

I don't know, but I know who said THIS: bvar22 Jun 2014 #54

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #68

You are correct. yallerdawg Jun 2014 #104

Noam Chomsky is on-point, as always. PoliticalPothead Jun 2014 #4

Chomsky minces no words in conveying the gravity of what our government is perpetrating in radical indepat Jun 2014 #5

rec! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2014 #6

K&R Why Snowden is a Wanted Man: The Power of Transparency woo me with science Jun 2014 #7

K & R & winner of the NO Shit Sherlock award of the day. L0oniX Jun 2014 #8

It's a worthy award. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #71

Anti-American Chomsky is anti-American ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #10

Do you think we need to worry about the uncontrolled power of the NSA/CIA security state? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #12

No reply, as usual. nt elias49 Jun 2014 #122

Well from what I know of conservatives, they either love the heavy handed security state or, they rhett o rick Jun 2014 #123

Khmer Rouge? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #14

It was a right wing smear dating back decades Oilwellian Jun 2014 #24

Seemed Like A BS Smear billhicks76 Jun 2014 #27

He did no such thing. This canard's legs keep getting longer... Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #30

Ah, the classic method of deflection... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #51

What would you know about "the vast majority of Democrats"? By your own admission, Marr Jun 2014 #77

The very fact that Obama used Chomsky as the brunt of a joke Oilwellian Jun 2014 #86

You've a right to your opinion... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #90

This is an ancient right-wing smear. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #32

what do you expect from someone who quotes Karl Rove? nashville_brook Jun 2014 #44

If I was going to post conservative crap mudy waters Jun 2014 #99

Yah malokvale77 Jun 2014 #118

America, Love It Or Leave It. Again ? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #22

So, you disagree with him.... daleanime Jun 2014 #23

quite possibly the dumbest post I ever read on DU. KG Jun 2014 #26

Epic fail. L0oniX Jun 2014 #36

sounding more "conservative" than "democrat" here nashville_brook Jun 2014 #42

You got your wires crossed, guy... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #48

the reason you get challenged on it is b/c the phrase is a Rove-ism, and as he goes on to say... nashville_brook Jun 2014 #52

Chomsky is not a Democrat ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #59

You've made some rather creative, yet unsupported allegations about Chomsky... LanternWaste Jun 2014 #72

They are neither "made up" nor "unsupported" ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #96

I think your handle is one word too long..first you use a Rove-ism.. truebrit71 Jun 2014 #84

You left out a word. Let me fix it for you: Anti-American POLICIES. In the real world, there is a sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #70

Pro NSA is ...anti-american. Confession is good for the soul. L0oniX Jun 2014 #75

Your comment is ad hominem and does not further the discussion. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #95

Ironic that you should point that out in the one place it doesn't apply... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #115

You should be complimented. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #132

When people make reasoned arguments with cited sources... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2014 #137

As I said, sometime I agree with Chomsky, sometimes I don't. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #138

Nuh uh! And Bush was worse gratuitous Jun 2014 #11

those who cite "BBWW" (but bush was worse) don't seem very cognizant or even interested, really nashville_brook Jun 2014 #16

Bet you real money that Poppy's network STILL has more control over the intellignce community Demeter Jun 2014 #20

^^ This. GliderGuider Jun 2014 #21

You Got It billhicks76 Jun 2014 #29

yep -- and that's exactly where the critique should be pointed nashville_brook Jun 2014 #38

+1000 JDPriestly Jun 2014 #94

Wrong billhicks76 Jun 2014 #28

i completely agree -- short of real action on this, it's the only conclusion that can be made. nashville_brook Jun 2014 #41

Check Out Today's Post billhicks76 Jun 2014 #46

Well said. woo me with science Jun 2014 #135

K & R! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #15

Here in the reality based community Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #25

It's amazing, isn't it? For some reason I thought this site is the snappyturtle Jun 2014 #33

Well, some of DU is one (DU), and the rest is the other (BOG) Demeter Jun 2014 #37

I spend little time here anymore because of the, so aptly put, bifurcation. nt snappyturtle Jun 2014 #39

Same here. nt mimi85 Jun 2014 #69

wow -- two different posters in this thread quote Karl Rove to disparage Chomsky (see edit) nashville_brook Jun 2014 #43

NSA shill employees? L0oniX Jun 2014 #74

Huge k/r 840high Jun 2014 #31

Well, we've gone from the War on Drugs to this War on Thugs stupidicus Jun 2014 #34

You are now a fake liberal or a paid shill mindwalker_i Jun 2014 #45

Regardless of which, clearly a racist. morningfog Jun 2014 #55

You sir,or maam are Un-American!!! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #57

Loyalists are loyalists. morningfog Jun 2014 #58

Un-American mindwalker_i Jun 2014 #61

I am expecting Rod Serling to post on here Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #65

Is all true. But it's gonna be like Idiocracy, not 1984. They'll use it to target their Viagra sales McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #50

Under the bus with you!! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #56

Very Powerful and Frightening....Are we "there" yet? bvar22 Jun 2014 #60

Wait, ProSense Jun 2014 #62

The OP is about our civil liberties, specifically the surveillance state Android3.14 Jun 2014 #79

And? ProSense Jun 2014 #83

Good lord LondonReign2 Jun 2014 #81

I made a point, and ProSense Jun 2014 #82

I don't know if you are player or just getting played nolabels Jun 2014 #85

People ProSense Jun 2014 #87

So with this information should i feel proud of the US criminal justice system? nolabels Jun 2014 #89

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #63

Guaranteed privacy of "persons, houses, papers and effects" was seen as foundational to freedom. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #73

His ODS is getting feeble. ucrdem Jun 2014 #76

I heard that Chomsky wouldn't even put an Obama sign in his yard. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2014 #98

I didn't know he had a yard. ucrdem Jun 2014 #100

What I want to know Android3.14 Jun 2014 #78

People who want to be taken seriously treestar Jun 2014 #88

well, the title may not be the best Leme Jun 2014 #91

Then they will prosecute Hayden? LINK grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #97

It's too bad George Orwell is not alive today . He would see his fictional city of Oceania in 1984 in geretogo Jun 2014 #92

How dare he say this! Obama is dreamy Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #101

And what is Greenwald going to do with his royalties from this book? George II Jun 2014 #102

A very stale complaint Oilwellian Jun 2014 #106

I'm retired, but when I worked I got paid. On the other hand I didn't make money off the "work"... George II Jun 2014 #108

Are you saying journalists and writers should work for free? n/t Oilwellian Jun 2014 #109

Not at all, but Greenwald isn't your normal everyday "journalist" George II Jun 2014 #130

Well, you do have a point Oilwellian Jun 2014 #136

ah, ah, ah.... wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #128

Take two aspirins George II Jun 2014 #129

duh!? wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #131

Probably less then the beltway bandits do with thier ample profits. Pholus Jun 2014 #107

But if yer' not a terrorist... nikto Jun 2014 #111

hey! Freedom isn't Free nikto Jun 2014 #112

In a free society, you should be willing... nikto Jun 2014 #113

But I heard that freedom is slavery FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #114

ignorance will give us strength nikto Jun 2014 #133

kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #134