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In reply to the discussion: Most Americans Think Snowden Did the Right Thing, Poll Says [View all]Uncle Joe
(65,207 posts)22. They're inextricably tied together, this is all PRISM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
PRISM was publicly revealed when classified documents about the program were leaked to journalists of The Washington Post and The Guardian by Edward Snowden at the time an NSA contractor during a visit to Hong Kong.[1][2] The leaked documents included 41 PowerPoint slides, four of which were published in news articles.[1][2] The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[34] The speaker's notes in the briefing document reviewed by The Washington Post indicated that "98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google and Microsoft".[1] The slide presentation stated that much of the world's electronic communications pass through the U.S., because electronic communications data tend to follow the least expensive route rather than the most physically direct route, and the bulk of the world's Internet infrastructure is based in the United States.[15] The presentation noted that these facts provide United States intelligence analysts with opportunities for intercepting the communications of foreign targets as their electronic data pass into or through the United States.[2][15]
Snowden's subsequent disclosures included statements that governments such as the United Kingdom's GCHQ also undertook mass interception and tracking of Internet and communications data[35] described by Germany as "nightmarish" if true[36] allegations that the NSA engaged in "dangerous" and "criminal" activity by "hacking" civilian infrastructure networks in other countries such as "universities, hospitals, and private businesses",[13] and alleged that compliance offered only very limited restrictive effect on mass data collection practices (including of Americans) since restrictions "are policy-based, not technically based, and can change at any time", adding that "Additionally, audits are cursory, incomplete, and easily fooled by fake justifications",[13] with numerous self-granted exceptions, and that NSA policies encourage staff to assume the benefit of the doubt in cases of uncertainty.[37][38][39]
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MOST people don't know he is a Libertarian who supported George Bush either....
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#1
Hey VR... If You Have That Kind Of Mind Reading Ability... You Should Take It On The Road...
WillyT
Jun 2014
#79
You are pointing out something very important with your question. I would respect
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#121
thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accomapnying remarks
stupidicus
Jun 2014
#164
even though your continual tacit concessions where neither solicited nor warranted
stupidicus
Jun 2014
#169
Since 2001. Which you could have easily found out for yourself by looking at my profile.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#31
Not at all....just bored with producing the same information over and over for people who refuse
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#41
An opinion piece, written by somebody named Andrew Leonard. I have no idea who that is,
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#66
"Ron Paul holds some views that are wrong, irrational and even odious."
MannyGoldstein
Jun 2014
#148
Congrats at getting the number one response. Best for hijacking. Just sayin. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#122
So... If A "Libertarian" Is Right Once In A While... We're Required To Ingnore It ???
WillyT
Jun 2014
#5
When you stop vocally repeating that lack of support for Snowden means support of the NSA!
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#48
That title misstates the poll results. The fact that most people believe Snowden
pnwmom
Jun 2014
#18
The question becomes did/does PRISM pose a greater threat to the American People
Uncle Joe
Jun 2014
#20
That's not the issue. Snowden could have and should have released the information
pnwmom
Jun 2014
#21
It doesn't take a great leap of imagination from knowing about PRISM, that we would
Uncle Joe
Jun 2014
#85
It was the specifics that they released that wouldn't have been known, not the fact
pnwmom
Jun 2014
#86
Why do you keep obscuring the point? The fact that we spy on other countries isn't news.
pnwmom
Jun 2014
#92
A few months ago the spin was that PRISM was merely a benign way the NSA transfers files
Chathamization
Jun 2014
#70
Where in the article is the conclusion "everything he did was okay" listed that you reference?
LanternWaste
Jun 2014
#103
I was talking about the subject line of the OP's Post, "Most Americans think .. . "
pnwmom
Jun 2014
#105
I think you've confused this survey with an actual scientific poll. What reputable pollster only...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#107
Precisely. The headline of the o.p. is quite misleading. Thanks to Pro for sourcing the pollster.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#111
He has through his avenues released information which harms not only the USA but UK and probably
Thinkingabout
Jun 2014
#23
Then feel free to start Libertarian Underground. This one is STILL partisan. n/t
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#112
A huge percentage were in favor of the Iraq war at first. Polls do not validate an action.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#63
I'm sure whatever the polls said, they weren't startup tech co's, polling only "employed"...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#88
So you're saying it's a crap poll? And why are they polling just "employed" Americans?
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#80
All I ask is that you keep some prospective.You dont know that Snowden gave the Russians our secrets
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#129
But we must investigate the NSA to be sure they are acting in our best interest. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#132
Ha-ha!!! Look at the authority-sniffers break their arm reaching to spin this.
U4ikLefty
Jun 2014
#134
I dont think the people who are criticizing snowden are "authority-sniffers" here.
Eko
Jun 2014
#135
Just last week on national news it was reported the majority of people think he's a traitor!
B Calm
Jun 2014
#150
Hey, if I want to find out what most Americans really think, I'll ask the NSA. n/t
hughee99
Jun 2014
#162