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Showing Original Post only (View all)authoritarian, libertarian, right, left-- what quadrant of the Political Compass are you in? [View all]

One of the downward trends in DU lately has been the widespread abuse of the terms authoritarian and libertarian. These are both terms with long and honorable histories in published literature, referring to attitudes and policies about the legitimacy of government control of individual behavior. Google ngram allows one to search published literature for appearance of various terms and to compare their frequency over time. This ngram shows the use in books of authoritarian, libertarian, and the far less common use of hard left and Libertarian from 1908 through 2008 (the cutoff point for the database.)
Despite their long history in scholarly writing, both terms have been abused here as content-free epithets, even to the ridiculous point of alerts and hides for using the term authoritarian in a perfectly legitimate context. But IMO the more serious and systemic problem is the confusion about the term libertarian. Although it was hijacked by a rightwing extremist US political party a few decades ago, most Democratic voters support positions that are on the libertarian rather than the authoritarian end of the scale developed by the creators of The Political Compass. And no one outside the US is idiotic enough to use libertarian as synonymous with Libertarian thereby turning the vast majority of progressive voters worldwide into disciples of the worst novelist in history. (Worst both ethically and esthetically IMO.) The liberty championed by Ayn Rand and Rand Paul is that of the extreme right of the Political Compass.
The questionnaire here results in a score that places one in a quadrant that is either libertarian or authoritarian on the Y-axis and left or right in the economic sense on the X-axis. My own result is far down in the left-libertarian quadrant, as you can see here. I would not be surprised if 80% of active DUers, including those who abuse the term libertarian as if synonymous with a crank rightwing third party, are in fact left-libertarian in their views.

Take the test for yourselfmaybe Im mistaken. But it seems to me that a tremendous amount of poo is being flung based on semi-deliberate abuse of two words that must be restored to their proper meaning if we are to have a reasonable discussion of the major issues of the day.
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authoritarian, libertarian, right, left-- what quadrant of the Political Compass are you in? [View all]
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2014
OP
What is called "libertarian" here could be better classified as respect for basic human rights.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jun 2014
#9
Thanks to Ron Paul and his calf head son, Libertarian, with the big L, is taking a beating.
Whisp
Jun 2014
#20
I agree with your overall point that the terms authoritarian and libertarian are overused on DU
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#3
Not sure why you believe this test gives an accurate or meaningful result.
winter is coming
Jun 2014
#4
"probably still skews that way" is an unjustified assumption of yours
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2014
#5
I never said there was anything 'off-base' about putting them upper-right
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2014
#15
developed by a leftist British social historian and political journalist
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2014
#6
In the UK, 'libertarian' used to mean civil libertarian, and economic libertarianism was called
LeftishBrit
Jun 2014
#10
It's the same in the US. What we have here is an intersection of ignorance and duplicity.
Romulox
Jun 2014
#31
all good points, thanks, perhaps "authoritarian" implies more consistency than is appropriate
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2014
#28
thanks, inspired by your previous posts about "authoritarian" as a term
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2014
#24
So many DUers tend toward that top right quadrant. Can't we just ban the word "authoritarian"? nt
Romulox
Jun 2014
#33
Everytime I take it, I end up somewhere between -9.50 and -10.00 on both axes.
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#35