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In reply to the discussion: Transcript of the Edward Snowden portion of my show this week [View all]MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)7. Yeah, sure...
This meshes well with the Vanity Fair article
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/04/edward-snowden-interview
Snowden cautions about some of the numbers that investigators have publicized, especially the 1.7 million figure, which, he tells Vanity Fair, is simply a scare number based on an intentionally crude metric: everything that I ever digitally interacted with in my career. He adds, Look at the language officials use in sworn testimony about these records: could have, may have, potentially. Theyre prevaricating. Every single one of those officials knows I dont have 1.7 million files, but what are they going to say? What senior official is going to go in front of Congress and say, We have no idea what he has, because the N.S.A.s auditing of systems holding hundreds of millions of Americans data is so negligent that any high-school dropout can walk out the door with it?
I know exactly how many documents I have, Snowden continues. Zero. But for the other players involved, Im not sure well ever know who has what, The Guardians U.S. editor, Janine Gibson, says.
On what he calls the post-terror generations views on defending the Constitution: What were seeing today in America is a new political movement that crosses party lines. This post-terror generation rejects the idea that we have to burn down our village in order to save itthat the only way to defend the Constitution is to tear it up.
On allegations that he has a doomsday cache in his possession: In response to whispers in the intelligence community that Snowden has a doomsday cache in his possession, Snowden retorts, Who would set up a system that incentivizes others to kill them?
On the crucial ways he differs from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange: We dont share identical politics. I am not anti-secrecy. Im pro-accountability. Ive made many statements indicating both the importance of secrecy and spying, and my support for the working-level people at the N.S.A. and other agencies. Its the senior officials you have to watch out for.
Why he admires WikiLeaks: They run toward the risks everyone else runs away from. No other publisher in the world is prepared to commit to protecting sourceseven other journalists sourcesthe way WikiLeaks is.
On how hes amused by reports of his right-wing politics and would describe his political thought as moderate: Snowden tells Vanity Fair hes amused by reports of his right-wing politics, based on what seem to be Internet rumors and third-hand information. He continues, Id describe my political thought as moderate.
Sources close to the situation discuss Snowdens living arrangements in Moscow and his desire to be granted asylum in Germany or another democratic state: One source close to Snowden tells Vanity Fair that he and WikiLeaks staffer Sarah Harrison moved multiple times and at one point lived with an American family outside Moscow. Snowden and Harrisions time together was a little bit of a love-hate thing, says a person close to WikiLeaks. They were stuck in close quarters there for a long time. Snowden is fastidious and Harrison is not, this person says. Harrison moved to Berlin in November, but shortly before she did, a German politician had dinner with her and Snowden, who expressed a desire to be granted asylum in Germany or another democratic state. Mostly, the politician says, Snowden wished he could go home.
I know exactly how many documents I have, Snowden continues. Zero. But for the other players involved, Im not sure well ever know who has what, The Guardians U.S. editor, Janine Gibson, says.
On what he calls the post-terror generations views on defending the Constitution: What were seeing today in America is a new political movement that crosses party lines. This post-terror generation rejects the idea that we have to burn down our village in order to save itthat the only way to defend the Constitution is to tear it up.
On allegations that he has a doomsday cache in his possession: In response to whispers in the intelligence community that Snowden has a doomsday cache in his possession, Snowden retorts, Who would set up a system that incentivizes others to kill them?
On the crucial ways he differs from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange: We dont share identical politics. I am not anti-secrecy. Im pro-accountability. Ive made many statements indicating both the importance of secrecy and spying, and my support for the working-level people at the N.S.A. and other agencies. Its the senior officials you have to watch out for.
Why he admires WikiLeaks: They run toward the risks everyone else runs away from. No other publisher in the world is prepared to commit to protecting sourceseven other journalists sourcesthe way WikiLeaks is.
On how hes amused by reports of his right-wing politics and would describe his political thought as moderate: Snowden tells Vanity Fair hes amused by reports of his right-wing politics, based on what seem to be Internet rumors and third-hand information. He continues, Id describe my political thought as moderate.
Sources close to the situation discuss Snowdens living arrangements in Moscow and his desire to be granted asylum in Germany or another democratic state: One source close to Snowden tells Vanity Fair that he and WikiLeaks staffer Sarah Harrison moved multiple times and at one point lived with an American family outside Moscow. Snowden and Harrisions time together was a little bit of a love-hate thing, says a person close to WikiLeaks. They were stuck in close quarters there for a long time. Snowden is fastidious and Harrison is not, this person says. Harrison moved to Berlin in November, but shortly before she did, a German politician had dinner with her and Snowden, who expressed a desire to be granted asylum in Germany or another democratic state. Mostly, the politician says, Snowden wished he could go home.
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I find it much easier to believe that the GG, the ES & the PO are continuing to lie like crazy.
Whisp
Jun 2014
#3
Why should they release anything? Given that Mr. Snowden has charges pending in the federal docket,
msanthrope
Jun 2014
#12
I have no idea. I would not have released it. But his attorneys can release what they wish. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2014
#42
My target audience is the reality based community, not Snowden/Greenwald sycophants
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#19
LMFAO ...yea that. Lots of reality base going on there. Birds of a feather I guess.
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#81
Thanks for exposing yourself by deeming those who don't share your view as brown nosers...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#37
I hope we are all in a position within a few more years to embrace the good...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#78
The Libertarian right is on your and Snowdens side they love that this is a
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#87
"EFF to Court: There's No Doubt the Government Destroyed NSA Spying Evidence…"
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#39
No, it's not. You, like Snowden, are practicing Constitutional law without training.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#48
Snowden is like those idiots who send hatemail to DU for T/Sing them and talk about how
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#23
With much thanks to Iching Carpenter for this reminder and huge chunk of wisdom ...
Aerows
Jun 2014
#11
Nah SnowGlen didn't "like" what was goin on so they decided to bust airThang wide open... you know
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#24
He must have suckered the ACLU, and other civil liberties groups, free press organizations,
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#29
If the answer to the first half of question one is "yes," then the rest is justified.
morningfog
Jun 2014
#40
According to this org map of NSA divisions, GC does NOT have a compliance and oversight division.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#44
It's not a supreme court decision. It's dozens of appellate decisions that the Supreme Court
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#65
Sorry. The job of the appellate courts is to follow the precedents set out by the
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#103
Funny. Feinstein & Rodgers agree that he is not a spy for Russia. Which is what Snowden was asserted
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#68
He said he was not a spy, he didn't say for whom... and yeah, the email thing is a open shut
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#72
On the edit, it's the "Russia" conversation where he said he wasn't a spy not the China one....
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#75
Brian Williams pressed Snowden to specify something the NSA had done that was illegal.
randome
Jun 2014
#83
I see the little Eddie "I am not a spy" Eddie/wouldn't lie-brigrade is here to defend their "hero"..
Cha
Jun 2014
#71
Conservatives love Snowdens allegations as they love anything that hurts Obama.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#76
I wasn't linking myself to EarlG I was linking you to those who send him hatemail
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#101
"those who love Snowden and Greenwald are the ones angling for a spot on Conservative media" LMFAO
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#85
READ Greenwald's book, everyone. It disabuses the OP of all this arduous case building. nt
ancianita
Jun 2014
#104