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In reply to the discussion: Transcript of the Edward Snowden portion of my show this week [View all]Cerridwen
(13,258 posts)25. Here are some other sources for you since you don't trust Snowden:
Spiegel Online has an ongoing series about the NSA and spying. http://www.spiegel.de/international/topic/nsa_spying_scandal/
Then, of course, there's the Electronic Frontier Foundation; since this story is so closely tied to information and technology. They too have a series of articles about the NSA and spying with discussion about the technology used. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
Here's a presentation by EFF's Senior Staff Attorney at the 30th Chaos Communication Congress [30c3] by the Chaos Computer Club [CCC] in Hamburg, Germany:
There were several other presentations at the 30c3 also addressing technology, the NSA, and spying:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOcrXzpA0W82rsJJKrmeBlY3_MS0uQv3h
Have you heard of Mikko Hermanni Hyppönen? Yeah, I hadn't either until I saw this TED talk,
then checked for background on him. According to the links on his wiki:
Since the 1990s, Hyppönen has assisted law enforcement in the United States, Europe and Asia on cybercrime cases and advises governments on cyber crime.[5] His team has been responsible for taking down the Sobig.F botnet.[6]
In 2004, Hyppönen co-operated with Vanity Fair on a feature, The Code Warrior, which examined his role in the Blaster and Sobig Computer worms.[7]
Hyppönen has keynoted or spoken at various conferences around the world, including, Black Hat, DEF CON, DLD,[8] Hack In The Box Security Conference[9] and RSA. In addition to data security events, Hyppönen has delivered talks at general-interest events, such as TED, TEDx, DLD, SXSW and Google Zeitgeist. He's also spoken at various military events, including AFCEA events and the NATO CCD COE's ICCC. Hyppönen is a reserve officer in the Finnish Army.[10]
Hyppönen has been a member of the advisory board of IMPACT (International Multilateral Partnership Against Cyber Threats) since 2007 together with Yevgeny Kaspersky, Dr. Hamadoun Touré, Professor Fred Piper and John Thompson.[11]
Hyppönen is a columnist for BetaNews and Wired.[12] He has also written on his research for CNN.
In 2011, he was ranked 61st in Foreign Policy's Top 100 Global Thinkers report.[13]
The two greatest tools of our time have been turned into government surveillance tools. I'm talking about the mobile phone and the internet. George Orwell was an optimist.
Hyppönen on the PRISM surveillance in 2013[14]
In 2004, Hyppönen co-operated with Vanity Fair on a feature, The Code Warrior, which examined his role in the Blaster and Sobig Computer worms.[7]
Hyppönen has keynoted or spoken at various conferences around the world, including, Black Hat, DEF CON, DLD,[8] Hack In The Box Security Conference[9] and RSA. In addition to data security events, Hyppönen has delivered talks at general-interest events, such as TED, TEDx, DLD, SXSW and Google Zeitgeist. He's also spoken at various military events, including AFCEA events and the NATO CCD COE's ICCC. Hyppönen is a reserve officer in the Finnish Army.[10]
Hyppönen has been a member of the advisory board of IMPACT (International Multilateral Partnership Against Cyber Threats) since 2007 together with Yevgeny Kaspersky, Dr. Hamadoun Touré, Professor Fred Piper and John Thompson.[11]
Hyppönen is a columnist for BetaNews and Wired.[12] He has also written on his research for CNN.
In 2011, he was ranked 61st in Foreign Policy's Top 100 Global Thinkers report.[13]
The two greatest tools of our time have been turned into government surveillance tools. I'm talking about the mobile phone and the internet. George Orwell was an optimist.
Hyppönen on the PRISM surveillance in 2013[14]
Check the links at his wiki to confirm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikko_Hypp%C3%B6nen
I highly recommend you not check out any recent DefCon presenters.
Note: this is mostly a copy and paste of a post I've written in another thread.
If people don't like/don't trust Greenwald and Snowden, there are plenty of other sources to read and watch. I've tried to provide a few I think might be more informative; or at least more geeky since most have a technological and security bent.
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I find it much easier to believe that the GG, the ES & the PO are continuing to lie like crazy.
Whisp
Jun 2014
#3
Why should they release anything? Given that Mr. Snowden has charges pending in the federal docket,
msanthrope
Jun 2014
#12
I have no idea. I would not have released it. But his attorneys can release what they wish. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2014
#42
My target audience is the reality based community, not Snowden/Greenwald sycophants
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#19
LMFAO ...yea that. Lots of reality base going on there. Birds of a feather I guess.
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#81
Thanks for exposing yourself by deeming those who don't share your view as brown nosers...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#37
I hope we are all in a position within a few more years to embrace the good...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#78
The Libertarian right is on your and Snowdens side they love that this is a
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#87
"EFF to Court: There's No Doubt the Government Destroyed NSA Spying Evidence…"
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2014
#39
No, it's not. You, like Snowden, are practicing Constitutional law without training.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#48
Snowden is like those idiots who send hatemail to DU for T/Sing them and talk about how
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#23
With much thanks to Iching Carpenter for this reminder and huge chunk of wisdom ...
Aerows
Jun 2014
#11
Nah SnowGlen didn't "like" what was goin on so they decided to bust airThang wide open... you know
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#24
He must have suckered the ACLU, and other civil liberties groups, free press organizations,
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#29
If the answer to the first half of question one is "yes," then the rest is justified.
morningfog
Jun 2014
#40
According to this org map of NSA divisions, GC does NOT have a compliance and oversight division.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#44
It's not a supreme court decision. It's dozens of appellate decisions that the Supreme Court
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#65
Sorry. The job of the appellate courts is to follow the precedents set out by the
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#103
Funny. Feinstein & Rodgers agree that he is not a spy for Russia. Which is what Snowden was asserted
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#68
He said he was not a spy, he didn't say for whom... and yeah, the email thing is a open shut
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#72
On the edit, it's the "Russia" conversation where he said he wasn't a spy not the China one....
uponit7771
Jun 2014
#75
Brian Williams pressed Snowden to specify something the NSA had done that was illegal.
randome
Jun 2014
#83
I see the little Eddie "I am not a spy" Eddie/wouldn't lie-brigrade is here to defend their "hero"..
Cha
Jun 2014
#71
Conservatives love Snowdens allegations as they love anything that hurts Obama.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#76
I wasn't linking myself to EarlG I was linking you to those who send him hatemail
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#101
"those who love Snowden and Greenwald are the ones angling for a spot on Conservative media" LMFAO
L0oniX
Jun 2014
#85
READ Greenwald's book, everyone. It disabuses the OP of all this arduous case building. nt
ancianita
Jun 2014
#104