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Tierra_y_Libertad

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29. He must have suckered the ACLU, and other civil liberties groups, free press organizations,
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jun 2014

Daniel Elsberg and other whistlblowers.

Whereas, the NSA and the MIC and our "transparent" government are well known for telling the truth...sometimes...maybe...if they can't hide it...like when a whistleblower like Snowden turns the lights on.

The NSA could have released that email a year ago MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #1
I find it much easier to believe that the GG, the ES & the PO are continuing to lie like crazy. Whisp Jun 2014 #3
I find it easier to believe the NSA is lying. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #33
Thank you for that 4th Amendment history - I was not aware closeupready Jun 2014 #38
Why should they release anything? Given that Mr. Snowden has charges pending in the federal docket, msanthrope Jun 2014 #12
Then why release the email they released? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #15
because that email had Nothing to do with what Snowden promised. Whisp Jun 2014 #36
I have no idea. I would not have released it. But his attorneys can release what they wish. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #42
Maybe because it's evidence of nothing. And relevant to nothing. randome Jun 2014 #43
Snowdedn "seems to have" a problem with the truth? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2014 #2
Oh, don't exaggerate. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #105
Long worded 'Kill the Messenger' fallacy AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #4
I evaluate both the messenger and the message. Both are faulty and stevenleser Jun 2014 #16
So you don't believe that the NSA spied on us? AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #20
The NSA illegally destroyed the records Fred Drum Jun 2014 #26
As usual, Snowden fans have mischaracterized things. stevenleser Jun 2014 #46
Does AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #49
You'll forgive us if we don't all fall in line with the authoritarians. L0oniX Jun 2014 #82
Well if the NSA said that in a press release JackRiddler Jun 2014 #111
Liar Eddie kills his own damn message. Cha Jun 2014 #70
This is why after one time, I no longer will make the effort to listen.. MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #5
Once was enough for me bahrbearian Jun 2014 #13
My target audience is the reality based community, not Snowden/Greenwald sycophants stevenleser Jun 2014 #19
"...like they just came down from a chat with a burning bush." randome Jun 2014 #22
Is that why you go on Fox News? Union Scribe Jun 2014 #30
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #51
LMFAO ...yea that. Lots of reality base going on there. Birds of a feather I guess. L0oniX Jun 2014 #81
Thanks for exposing yourself by deeming those who don't share your view as brown nosers... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #37
I don't blame him, he needs more airtime on Fox Dragonfli Jun 2014 #56
"Can't fault a person for needing to eat…" MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #58
I would never personaly resort to such a dishonorable profession to live Dragonfli Jun 2014 #62
I hope we are all in a position within a few more years to embrace the good... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #78
The Libertarian right is on your and Snowdens side they love that this is a stevenleser Jun 2014 #87
"Ed Snowden, Russian TV star, hands Putin a propaganda coup" JackRiddler Jun 2014 #109
How silly! And Peter King agrees with you. neverforget Jun 2014 #114
Birth? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #106
Ooof! Doctor! MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #116
Snowden couldn't name one thing the NSA has done that is illegal. Not one. randome Jun 2014 #6
Yeah, sure... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #7
Well, I wouldn't take Snowden's word for anything. The man is a thief. randome Jun 2014 #8
If you want an objective reason, you can start with this one... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #14
What is the proof? randome Jun 2014 #17
maybe you should ask the EFF Fred Drum Jun 2014 #27
They only have supposition but I would still trust them more than Snowden. randome Jun 2014 #28
"EFF to Court: There's No Doubt the Government Destroyed NSA Spying Evidence…" MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #39
Authoritarians have no interest in evidence AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #57
That's the standard authoritarian reply AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #55
You realize that its illegal for the NSA to spy on American citizens mudy waters Jun 2014 #18
I do. Where is the proof that they are violating this law? randome Jun 2014 #21
You'll never get through to them. Union Scribe Jun 2014 #32
I know. It's just mental exercise, at this point. randome Jun 2014 #34
You have been given proof in a plethora of threads. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #52
No, it's not. You, like Snowden, are practicing Constitutional law without training. stevenleser Jun 2014 #48
Snowden is like those idiots who send hatemail to DU for T/Sing them and talk about how stevenleser Jun 2014 #23
Thank goodness I was afraid I'd missed it. Union Scribe Jun 2014 #9
Ah yes, "I am not a spy." ucrdem Jun 2014 #10
With much thanks to Iching Carpenter for this reminder and huge chunk of wisdom ... Aerows Jun 2014 #11
Nah SnowGlen didn't "like" what was goin on so they decided to bust airThang wide open... you know uponit7771 Jun 2014 #24
WTF?? Anybody?? elias49 Jun 2014 #45
I assumed he fell asleep on the keyboard Union Scribe Jun 2014 #54
IOWs - "... I have a narrow cultural range of friends..." uponit7771 Jun 2014 #61
Here are some other sources for you since you don't trust Snowden: Cerridwen Jun 2014 #25
He must have suckered the ACLU, and other civil liberties groups, free press organizations, Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #29
Confessions of their character Aerows Jun 2014 #31
You want to bring up character, do you? Whisp Jun 2014 #35
Well this post says a lot about your character. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #60
If the answer to the first half of question one is "yes," then the rest is justified. morningfog Jun 2014 #40
What if the little jerk didn't actually take Anything... Whisp Jun 2014 #41
According to this org map of NSA divisions, GC does NOT have a compliance and oversight division. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #44
Stephen, it's more complicated than that. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #47
It is more complicated than that, but not in the way you are asserting. stevenleser Jun 2014 #50
Supreme Court decisions are not the eternal law. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #53
It's not a supreme court decision. It's dozens of appellate decisions that the Supreme Court stevenleser Jun 2014 #65
The technology today makes the facts very different. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #69
No, none of what you just wrote is correct. stevenleser Jun 2014 #102
Sorry. The job of the appellate courts is to follow the precedents set out by the JDPriestly Jun 2014 #103
Here is some more helpful information for you. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #64
See my #65 above. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #66
The essential thing to remember is that neither the Constitution nor the JDPriestly Jun 2014 #79
So much distortion and speculation here that it's hard to know where to begin. Vattel Jun 2014 #59
ummmm, Snowden "... I'm not a spy..." quote uponit7771 Jun 2014 #63
Funny. Feinstein & Rodgers agree that he is not a spy for Russia. Which is what Snowden was asserted Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #68
He said he was not a spy, he didn't say for whom... and yeah, the email thing is a open shut uponit7771 Jun 2014 #72
Oh, please this is pathetic. Vattel Jun 2014 #74
On the edit, it's the "Russia" conversation where he said he wasn't a spy not the China one.... uponit7771 Jun 2014 #75
Brian Williams pressed Snowden to specify something the NSA had done that was illegal. randome Jun 2014 #83
LOL, ok! nt Logical Jun 2014 #67
I see the little Eddie "I am not a spy" Eddie/wouldn't lie-brigrade is here to defend their "hero".. Cha Jun 2014 #71
Needing more Fox news airtime? Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #73
Conservatives love Snowdens allegations as they love anything that hurts Obama. stevenleser Jun 2014 #76
So it's nothing to do with the fact NSA violated the 4th Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #77
All appellate decisions are on the other side of where you are stevenleser Jun 2014 #86
I do not get this mission Aerows Jun 2014 #95
It doesn't violate the fourth amendment. stevenleser Jun 2014 #99
Trying to link yourself to EarlG Aerows Jun 2014 #100
I wasn't linking myself to EarlG I was linking you to those who send him hatemail stevenleser Jun 2014 #101
Thanks, I appreciate Aerows Jun 2014 #110
"those who love Snowden and Greenwald are the ones angling for a spot on Conservative media" LMFAO L0oniX Jun 2014 #85
And people on Fux news Aerows Jun 2014 #89
You thought Right bobduca Jun 2014 #91
Shockingly false. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #112
Approve of the NSA huh? ...then people don't deserve the freedom they have... L0oniX Jun 2014 #80
alternate show names? bobduca Jun 2014 #84
I vote for "The O'Leser Factor" JackRiddler Jun 2014 #113
You can kill the messenger Aerows Jun 2014 #88
I can and did skewer the hopelessly flawed message stevenleser Jun 2014 #90
Why? Aerows Jun 2014 #92
Because it is hopelessly flawed and incorrect. stevenleser Jun 2014 #93
How? Aerows Jun 2014 #94
This should be enough to get you started stevenleser Jun 2014 #96
Oh boy Aerows Jun 2014 #97
Like all my opinions, it's properly sourced stevenleser Jun 2014 #98
Aaaaaaawwww... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #115
But But But HangOnKids Jun 2014 #117
Yeah, it's totally courageous. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #118
READ Greenwald's book, everyone. It disabuses the OP of all this arduous case building. nt ancianita Jun 2014 #104
To expect normal people to think one side is lying and the other is the pillar of truth, is insanity Rex Jun 2014 #107
Agreed. ancianita Jun 2014 #108
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