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bettyellen

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71. I somehow dodged a bullet not getting attacked by pro- gun control folks when posting about my

Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:21 AM

Jun 2014

family's struggle with my brother's mental illness. And I am firmly for gun control- but one or two people "strategically" thought I should shut up. It's pretty fucking weird here these days.

And yes, same thing is now happening with discussions of sexism of civil rights. A host is going around claiming I am part of some "group" and my alerts (along with five others- only two of whoms names I recognise) should be ignored. I guess women and POCs alerts are not as good as the people in that hosts "group of friends". I wonder if they don't mind seeing slurs here, and wishes I would STFU about them, because that is what I mainly alert on.

Not one host argued that host were wrong for admittedly judging the alerters and saying nothing about the fucking post itself. Not a single one. GD has been remade into a HS cafeteria.

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"I don't agree with you on this. Therefore I can't like you or agree with you on that." [View all] Armstead Jun 2014 OP

Excellent point. Our divisions serve the 1%very well. JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #1

Yuppers -- Actully the same goes for the great "left vs. right" steel cage death match Armstead Jun 2014 #2

Amen, brother. JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #3

Yes, the right/left division is encouraged. But I've seen a shift in politics over the past several sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #72

Curious, all that gridlock woo me with science Jun 2014 #73

+1000000 woo me with science Jun 2014 #38

Pretty much. Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #4

Well said. I would like to think that DU'ers agree on 90% of the Democratic agenda - from civil pampango Jun 2014 #5

So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #31

I somehow dodged a bullet not getting attacked by pro- gun control folks when posting about my bettyellen Jun 2014 #71

i dont play footsies with Libertarians, Anarchists, VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #6

Sometimes you have to. The President knows that. progressoid Jun 2014 #13

what does that have to do with me? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #15

Maybe I misunderstood your post. progressoid Jun 2014 #22

I said I dont but i also dont expect candidates to mirror me VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #23

What about DUers? progressoid Jun 2014 #25

why? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #27

Sure. And so are you. progressoid Jun 2014 #39

No I am a loyal Liberal Democrat..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #44

OK, so the President isn't a loyal Liberal Democrat. progressoid Jun 2014 #48

no actually he is a moderate VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #49

"...but thanks for being honest about not being a democrat." Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #74

That's really kind of low, VR. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #76

And there are a whole lot of those on the board Armstead Jun 2014 #14

and they are trolls every one of them VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #16

I've been called a "libertarian" because I object strongly to the TPP Armstead Jun 2014 #19

do you also post in support of GG and Snowden? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #24

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #34

1)Yes 2) depends on the time Armstead Jun 2014 #45

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #46

I also think that web should have single-payer universal healthcare (Medicare for All) Armstead Jun 2014 #65

the web? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #68

we (tired fingers) Armstead Jun 2014 #69

Which is great, JoeyT Jun 2014 #36

that is utter horseshit.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #47

Your counter argument is quite persuasive, however: JoeyT Jun 2014 #51

no he is not.....you are using your own contrived standards VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54

No, I'm using what's pretty much the standard definition of libertarian. JoeyT Jun 2014 #55

use the dictionary if you want the standard definition.....like i defined anarchists in my sig then VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56

I'm not sure why it's actually that big a deal. JoeyT Jun 2014 #57

of course you dont......color me not surprised VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #58

*shrug* Not everything is about Obama. JoeyT Jun 2014 #59

wow seriously? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #60

Gandhi (anarchist) better keep his feet away from you. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #33

he was a pacifist. He never claimed to be anti-govt All govt which is what anarchy is VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #61

Your definitition is wrong. And, Gandhi, Tolstoy, and others were Anarchists. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #62

It's the end result of ad hominem attacks. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #7

I go through phases..I generally post more when something is rattling my chaps Armstead Jun 2014 #12

You are so right... BIG K&R! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #8

It's very easy to not be guilty of that though. stillwaiting Jun 2014 #9

Agreed Armstead Jun 2014 #10

I like most of M. Moore's views, but he's a crap-in-pants hypocrite... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #11

Well in the spirit of the OP I would like to disagree... SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #26

Oh, he should have all the armed security he wants... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #30

How is wanting better gun control laws SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #35

Hypocrite? Yes. Handicap me? No. Moore can't get his way... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #41

Ok, so he is now an elitist... SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #43

In terms of $$$, he isn't? He's not in the 1%? Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #50

Sorry, I have to disagree.... daleanime Jun 2014 #29

Well, in fact my congressman did & does support a ban. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #32

How does that affect... daleanime Jun 2014 #37

Don't see the logic to your question. Moore isn't running for office, Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #40

I think I see your 'logic'...... daleanime Jun 2014 #53

virtual tribalism reddread Jun 2014 #17

"No True Scottsman...." Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #18

That's one I've never heard Armstead Jun 2014 #21

11 foot 8 bridge strikes again! snooper2 Jun 2014 #20

GREAT post! ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #28

There's crankiness even when people basically agree, but one person isn't fierce enough... Silent3 Jun 2014 #42

Guilty of that myself sometimes Armstead Jun 2014 #70

That dynamic draws me into so so many arguments I wanted to avoid Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #75

GET OFF MY LAWN!!! Jamastiene Jun 2014 #52

In my case it's "Get off my parking lot!" Armstead Jun 2014 #64

Now they tell us we must also have ideologically pure bosses as well, or we're shit too riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #63

I can disagree with someone on one issue and agree with them on a slew of others ... etherealtruth Jun 2014 #66

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #67