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Lizzie Poppet

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124. No she isn't.

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:09 AM

Apr 2012

She's described as having "olive skin." That covers a lot of ground, including people no one would describe as "persons of color" (Italians, for example...). Heck, I have a greenish undertone to my skin, and if I spent a lot of time outside (like Katniss would have, as a hunter), I'd be "olive skinned." And I'm of Welsh/English extraction...

Lawrence looks about right, IMO.

What got me were the idiots claiming to be offended because Rue and Thresh were played by black actors. Clearly said idiots have never read the books, as Rue is specifically described as having dark brown skin and eyes," and Thresh is later described as having Rue's coloring. They are both unequivocally "persons of color." When I first set eyes on Rue in the film, I thought, "she's perfect!"

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Some 'Hunger Games' critics say Jennifer Lawrence was too 'big' [View all] MineralMan Apr 2012 OP

Note: This is not an entertainment thread. MineralMan Apr 2012 #1

I doubt this has much to do with rail-thin models cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #2

Did they say anything about the actors playing the boys from her village? redqueen Apr 2012 #3

why would they belcffub Apr 2012 #25

The rations are not all that great either. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #46

she was also in the lottery numerous times LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2012 #75

probably the same people who were upset that some of the actors are 'too dark' Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2012 #11

How about Liam Hemsworth (Gale)? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #88

Co-star Stanley Tucci is totally spot-on in his assessment DinahMoeHum Apr 2012 #4

I also saw the movie this week. MineralMan Apr 2012 #9

Absolutely. See post #10 DinahMoeHum Apr 2012 #14

In the book, Katniss is described as small and thin.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #99

Lawrence is a size 2. Is that too fat in your book? riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #118

I love Stanley Tucci! Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #48

Paul Giamatti and William H. Macy might disagree with you. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #73

Don't forget Philip Seymour Hoffman. Son of Gob Apr 2012 #85

Don't you think he's graduated from the character actor roles, though? Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #92

Not really, he just played Art Howe in Moneyball Son of Gob Apr 2012 #96

You are wrong. Hoffman didn't play Art Howe. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #98

Exactly! Son of Gob Apr 2012 #102

At the risk of sounding like a dirty old man... Bluzmann57 Apr 2012 #5

Yes, but the book is about starving people. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #6

Not really. It tells of people in a society where paucity is used as a controlling element. Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #79

They ate stale bread and while he was stocky... YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #104

It's about hungry people obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #90

Actually, the filmmaker played down MineralMan Apr 2012 #22

I think they mean she looks too healthy. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #7

"Too healthy"?? Jeez Louise, no imagination, those people. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2012 #10

The point is that's not how she was described in the book. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #26

Trouble is, those critics are too rigid to allow DinahMoeHum Apr 2012 #32

I'm not saying a movie has to be made exactly like the book Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #84

She's also not a white woman either but nobody is complaining about that riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #54

Oh, lots of people are talking about that too. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #87

She was not emaciated in the book obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #91

Hey, I'm fine if that's how you saw her. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #94

For anyone actually buying the spin that it's cause of starvation and not the usual sexist redqueen Apr 2012 #8

The male actors who were featured in the film MineralMan Apr 2012 #13

I know, it is staggering how easy it is to sell that crap though... redqueen Apr 2012 #21

I didn't read the books. My wife did, MineralMan Apr 2012 #27

Actually, Liam was asked to lose twenty pounds. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #50

In the book she's described as olive skinned, not white riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #56

she may be a great hunter belcffub Apr 2012 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2012 #76

Liam Hemsworth (Gale) is a muscular hunk obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #93

+10000. I agree completely. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #18

her co-tribute came from a family of relatively better means belcffub Apr 2012 #28

Perhaps they should have cast a pathologically anorectic woman... PCIntern Apr 2012 #12

The character in the film was able to survive the "games" MineralMan Apr 2012 #17

Exactly... PCIntern Apr 2012 #23

Yup. Using someone too skinny isn't PC nowadays. dkf Apr 2012 #19

Your whining about "PC" is something RWers tend to do. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #45

You want to bet they considered this angle? dkf Apr 2012 #127

Did they get hit in the head with a brick? chrisa Apr 2012 #15

The point isn't that she is too big in general but that she doesn't fit the description in the book. dkf Apr 2012 #16

I didn't read the book. How was Katniss described MineralMan Apr 2012 #29

Pretty much the entire description is XemaSab Apr 2012 #68

Thanks. That leaves it pretty open, then. MineralMan Apr 2012 #71

But she talks about how her mother let her kids turn into skin and bones. dkf Apr 2012 #130

I knew before I started reading the replies varelse Apr 2012 #20

I don't think you are missing anything. MineralMan Apr 2012 #24

"What is big is the head of the critic" TOUCHE!! DinahMoeHum Apr 2012 #34

Thank you for that varelse Apr 2012 #37

That critic is an idiot. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #30

Well, yes. MineralMan Apr 2012 #31

As the saying goes, haters gonna hate. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #39

So it seems. MineralMan Apr 2012 #41

See my post below. It isn't the first time for this asshole critic. slampoet Apr 2012 #55

First she has a seductive, womanly figure, then she has "babyfat." MoonRiver Apr 2012 #33

Yup. Critics seem to have to find something to criticize. MineralMan Apr 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Scuba Apr 2012 #35

I have, and I've seen a complete range of people MineralMan Apr 2012 #43

I'm not sure either. Self-delete complete. Scuba Apr 2012 #83

I think she's very attractive n/t RZM Apr 2012 #38

Yes. There are many young women actors who are very attractive. MineralMan Apr 2012 #42

I'd have to see the screenplay and speak to the casting director aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #40

Did you read the books? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #44

Can you supply some of the physical description of the Katniss MineralMan Apr 2012 #47

You asked your wife? So you're getting all bothered about this and didn't read the book? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #74

I saw the movie, but haven't read the book yet. MineralMan Apr 2012 #77

Oh my God, what a waste of a morning. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2012 #81

They never really said she wasn't tall... YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #105

+1 Hooray for common sense! n/t LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #110

Actually, she describes herself as small, thin and strong. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #113

I think I'm short and fat... YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #129

I would agree with you. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #131

My daughter's the same size as Jennifer Lawrence, a size 2. riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #117

Obviously, Lawrence fits your request. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #119

I'm always hungry and I'm 30 lbs overweight. This is a sexist smear riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #121

We will agree to disagree. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #122

Why Saoirse Ronan? Katniss is described as having olive skin - I never thought she was white riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #51

I'm already over that argument. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #58

Thing is she's specifically described as a person of color. She's never described as starved riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2012 #82

No she isn't. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #124

Olive skinned is not NAtive American. YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #106

There was more than one tribe in the U.S.A. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #112

I was thinking Mediterranean or Middle Eastern... YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #128

Saoirse Ronan is a fair-skinned, blue-eyed Irish actress. MineralMan Apr 2012 #65

I'll tell you what they promised all of us when they picked Jennifer Lawrence. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #80

They need a real cracker playing that role anyway The Straight Story Apr 2012 #49

Actually, I think they selected Lawrence because of her portrayal of a cracker Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #53

I just wonder if she is the saltine variety The Straight Story Apr 2012 #63

I'm thinking more of a Triscuit. MineralMan Apr 2012 #66

I'm thinking it's more her acting ability. MineralMan Apr 2012 #72

Not SOME PEOPLE just ONE Person no one likes. slampoet Apr 2012 #52

Two other critics were also quoted in the article. MineralMan Apr 2012 #62

That, the skin color freakouts; some people are really coming unglued about this movie, no? (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #57

Some of us are big boned: hedgehog Apr 2012 #60

Oh, for crying out loud. It's a freaking movie... Skidmore Apr 2012 #64

There ya go. MineralMan Apr 2012 #67

3.5? white_wolf Apr 2012 #89

Most movie scoring is 4 stars. Son of Gob Apr 2012 #103

I use a four-star scale. Sorry, I should have mentioned that. MineralMan Apr 2012 #108

Katniss and her family were "well-fed" compared to her neighbors obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #86

haven't seen it yet, but yea, she is a little chunky quinnox Apr 2012 #95

Chunky? Really? I tend to agree with those saying she should be thinner portraying a character who lib_wit_it Apr 2012 #100

WTF? YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #107

Did you only read the title? tammywammy Apr 2012 #109

But that's just it, her character is NOT starving. riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #120

Katniss is not a helpless waif.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #123

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #126

Yeah.. passing 200 million in it's second week. SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #97

While she does look "bigger" than how Katniss is described, what is more important JI7 Apr 2012 #101

the book sucks - maybe the movie's better wordpix Apr 2012 #111

movie is weak trekbiker Apr 2012 #132

I just got back from seeing the movie Beaverhausen Apr 2012 #114

I love Lawrence's own take on that point. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #115

I would be scared of Kate Moss coming after me with a bow and arrow. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #116

If I were holding, I would definitely be afraid of Kate Moss coming after me with a bow and arrow Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #125

Anything to distract from the message lapislzi Apr 2012 #133