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Wounded Bear

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4. Matyrdom...persecution complex...whatever...

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:28 AM

Jun 2014

The simple question is: Is this man willing to suffer and yes, die, for his beliefs?

Many conservatives want a reason to suffer, to feel bad, to justify their anger in some way. I think that all want to feel they are like the blessed Lord Jeebus, nailed to that cross, suffering for 'others.' If only they could find a meaningful way to do so.

They fail to see that all too often, the 'others' they are sacrificing themselves for are the wealthy takers. The sole reason we don't have decent healthcare in this country is the profit motive. The ACA, at best, chips away a little bit at that profit taking, but not that much. Frankly, anybody who is against such a mild form of socialism is, in a word, anti-social.

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I had an interesting discussion with a patient yesterday who is a black conservative. [View all] Aristus Jun 2014 OP

Stupid/Stubborn otohara Jun 2014 #1

I think people like your patient are hard wired in their brains to be so rigid and negative kimbutgar Jun 2014 #2

I wonder if he realizes that among the "welfare cheats" are many, many conservative Republicans? nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #36

Those don't count. Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #52

appears to me that Leme Jun 2014 #3

Don't you dare accuse that poster of being, even unintentionally, racist! Come on here two weeks ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #7

what part of "perhaps unintentional" do you not understand? Leme Jun 2014 #14

Oh, I understand every word of it. It's an inference you don't get to make since you don't know that ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #16

sorry, when I see things that appear non-racist..and they appear to me Leme Jun 2014 #23

lots of stories are Leme Jun 2014 #29

This is an interesting take and got me thinking. ananda Jun 2014 #30

exactly Leme Jun 2014 #32

I think author mentioned race because JaneyVee Jun 2014 #45

well, it's not about the author Leme Jun 2014 #46

No it's not racist. Black conservatives are relatively rare. Aristus Jun 2014 #8

You don't owe that person an explanation. They come in here a couple weeks ago and now they ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #9

Thanks for sticking up for me. Aristus Jun 2014 #12

Yw, Aristus. Always enjoy your contribution when I am fortunate enough to see it. =) nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #13

+1. And note the end of the OP, which we know is true. The cons would use him. freshwest Jun 2014 #38

well, Like I said Leme Jun 2014 #20

His words. Aristus Jun 2014 #21

Exactly Leme Jun 2014 #25

A word of advice. Codeine Jun 2014 #27

I just happen to be correct on this.... o well Leme Jun 2014 #28

Still digging. progressoid Jun 2014 #34

at least one person saw my point, that's maybe all there is, o well Leme Jun 2014 #37

The entire post would have been different without the poster giving that one pertinent piece of Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #44

why is it pertinent that he is black? Leme Jun 2014 #50

Or a patient... or male...? LanternWaste Jun 2014 #69

I am Black - don't see anything racist in the post. LoisB Jun 2014 #26

Ditto. nt Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #53

Most black people are Democrats treestar Jun 2014 #49

Me too! bravenak Jun 2014 #51

There is nothing racist about it. Members of an oppressed group Live and Learn Jun 2014 #60

well, Leme Jun 2014 #65

Race certainly is pertinent when a black person struggles financially because tblue37 Jun 2014 #62

well, it seems like you hold ... Leme Jun 2014 #64

No, it is simply astonishing when we encounter members of groups that tblue37 Jun 2014 #66

I guess you would agree Leme Jun 2014 #68

Your concern has been duly noted. tenderfoot Jun 2014 #71

Matyrdom...persecution complex...whatever... Wounded Bear Jun 2014 #4

It fascinates me that theft from a government aid program is always the fault of LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #5

That's a brilliant way to put it, LHAZ. Thanks! Aristus Jun 2014 #10

There used to be fraud hotlines. I assume there still are. LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #48

Excellent point! Should never be forgotten. freshwest Jun 2014 #39

Very well stated. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #58

There's no discussion... doxydad Jun 2014 #6

Registered to vote? MurryMom Jun 2014 #19

"unassailable self-assurance" is a universal, bipartisan trait hack89 Jun 2014 #11

Or the gungeon. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #35

Or Castle Bansalot. Like I said- a universal trait nt hack89 Jun 2014 #42

The gentleman is walking contradiction libodem Jun 2014 #15

Who knows? Aristus Jun 2014 #17

It just might libodem Jun 2014 #18

Aristus, aren't you at a community clinic? Was his care free? See the contradiction? freshwest Jun 2014 #40

Yes. We operate under a grant. Aristus Jun 2014 #41

Just goes to show that the Fuck You Got Mine mentality knows no bounds. Arkana Jun 2014 #22

The thing is: he doesn't 'have his'. Aristus Jun 2014 #24

Homeless? KamaAina Jun 2014 #31

I live amongst poor snake handling white folks gwheezie Jun 2014 #33

I recently had an encounter with a Latino conservative who is homeless. KamaAina Jun 2014 #43

In what I imagine would might well the words of Robert Freeman - TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #47

Was he suffering from concussion? Paranoia, maybe? Was his last name Ruckus? MADem Jun 2014 #54

I think even Uncle Ruckus Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #55

I was wondering if Ruckus got hit on the head, lost his memory or something! nt MADem Jun 2014 #57

I feel so sorry for those who are so brainwashed they hurt only themselves. nm Cha Jun 2014 #56

Sounds like he's in dire straits himself. I wonder how much of his politics is "his", and Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #59

*Why* did you avoid mentioning such salient points? nt tblue37 Jun 2014 #61

Because it was taking up time when I should have been evaluating and diagnosing his condition. Aristus Jun 2014 #63

Homeless and mentally ill is not a good combination Tom Ripley Jun 2014 #67

It is people like you, willing to give him your time and care without on the spot judgement,... NCTraveler Jun 2014 #70