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Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:16 PM

Jun 2014

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who have issues with Greenwald and Snowden support their revelations on DOMESTIC NSA spying (4th Amendment violations, et al).

Make no mistake, I support those disclosures, what I have a huge problem with is their disclosures of details of the INTERNATIONAL covert operations of their own country.

Many don't seem to want to deal with that dichotomy of the Greenwald/Snowden revelations. They just keep on with saying Greenwald/Snowden did the right thing. Well, if they had just stopped with the domestic spying revelations they would have almost blanket support.

Me personally, I can't support someone who has possibly blown covers of covert operatives and operations, a la Dick Cheney/Scooter Libby.

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Greenwald uses Bergdahl to hit Obama, Democrats [View all] ProSense Jun 2014 OP

Blanket NSA spying on US citizens STILL SUCKS! AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #1

Can you give me a link to someone's comment saying DonViejo Jun 2014 #3

The Greenwaldistas think Berghdal's release is a "distraction" from NSA. The flipside of that Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #9

and Benghazi is a distraction from Obamacare. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #62

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #80

These Greenwald threads confuse me, I assume if you are pro Greenwald you have to be randys1 Jun 2014 #151

thanks very much, I find them confusing as well. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #158

My condolences AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #12

You have my condolences, too. randome Jun 2014 #14

I care not about Snowden or Greenwald AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #15

And what did Snowden show about your privacy? Nothing. randome Jun 2014 #16

Snowden isn't my concern AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #19

And what makes you think the NSA engages in blanket spying on U.S. citizens? randome Jun 2014 #22

Are you serious? AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #24

The majority of that data does not specify whether it's domestic or foreign surveillance. randome Jun 2014 #37

So you officially support NSA domestic blanket spying AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #48

Yes, it saves me the trouble of posting my selfies! randome Jun 2014 #55

Good Gawd Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #72

The big flaw in that timeline jeff47 Jun 2014 #46

Is that why you are trying to hijack this thread? n/t ProSense Jun 2014 #17

Blanket NSA spying on US citizens STILL SUCKS! AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #21

so does cancer and some sports teams. Whisp Jun 2014 #30

Apples and oranges much? AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #34

give it up, you are digging too deep Whisp Jun 2014 #39

NSA domestic spying AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #42

!!!!!!Bergdahlzi!!!!! Whisp Jun 2014 #50

Nothing at the link you posted makes your point. ProSense Jun 2014 #20

Read post #90 from that thread AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #23

No thanks, and ProSense Jun 2014 #28

You start a new thread everytime Greenwald or Snowden say anything AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #40

So? Why are you so upset by criticism of Greenwald that you're hijacking this thread? n/t ProSense Jun 2014 #43

NSA domestic spying AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #45

they can't stand anything being exposed about their "heroes". All they have is Whine Whine Whine.. Cha Jun 2014 #121

someone hijacking a thread? grasswire Jun 2014 #154

be sure to make the rounds in all other topics: ex: Cooking and Baking: Whisp Jun 2014 #32

But this article isn't about that. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #33

Nor is it about what the OP claims it's about AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #102

I don't know what you're expressing your condolences to me for... DonViejo Jun 2014 #29

Nicely done Number23 Jun 2014 #115

How is that poster squirming? Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #51

LOL squirm? leftynyc Jun 2014 #54

He makes you squirm AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #103

Keep dreaming leftynyc Jun 2014 #140

You can keep your fucking "condolences" to DonViejo. He's doing great. nm Cha Jun 2014 #109

Condolences to you also AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #147

thanks for Kicking the Thread! Cha Jun 2014 #159

Your link doesn't show what you say it does. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #146

Ahhh . . . most here on DU . . . brush Jun 2014 #152

DonViejo Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #26

This article isn't about that. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #7

So does global warming uponit7771 Jun 2014 #8

True AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #13

I see you are so stifled... Whisp Jun 2014 #38

Can you tell me wtf that has to do with the OP? TIA. nm Cha Jun 2014 #106

So why does Greenwald himself keep setting up distractions from that issue? pnwmom Jun 2014 #138

Greenwald is cashing in his 15 minutes. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #2

Someone should tell him the check bounced davidpdx Jun 2014 #124

Color me unsurprised. MineralMan Jun 2014 #4

"My book! Don't forget my book!" JaneyVee Jun 2014 #5

They take calling GG a jerk as supporting the NSA cause they want people to leave GG ALONE!!! uponit7771 Jun 2014 #6

Asshole. randome Jun 2014 #10

GG disagrees with this President? I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED! I tell you! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #11

he's being deliberately obtuse bigtree Jun 2014 #18

Yet he just did so without notifying Congress at all. Maedhros Jun 2014 #67

They were not "transferred" gcomeau Jun 2014 #76

They could bring a legitimate charge against him. It looks like he may have broken the letter msanthrope Jun 2014 #77

wow this is huge if you think he broke the law questionseverything Jun 2014 #97

H. R. 3304 joshcryer Jun 2014 #116

Yep, and if he released them all? joshcryer Jun 2014 #113

If they want they can try it now or any old time TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #148

I agree. I'm a bit concerned because I also think those saying he may have broken the law Number23 Jun 2014 #117

SCOTUS would rule for the President. joshcryer Jun 2014 #120

Your general position here is very reasonable, but it is a very tricky issue. Vattel Jun 2014 #126

I think the issue stems from not notifying Congress. joshcryer Jun 2014 #128

That is not the way the Constitution is set up. Vattel Jun 2014 #130

Foreign policy wise, you're wrong. joshcryer Jun 2014 #131

Thanks for your posts on this, josh Number23 Jun 2014 #155

No, I am afraid you are incorrect. Vattel Jun 2014 #156

Which part contains the emergency exception? joshcryer Jun 2014 #119

I should have been clearer..sorry. msanthrope Jun 2014 #149

"not later than 30 days before" joshcryer Jun 2014 #161

I will hazard a guess and say this is what Pappa Fuck Ron Paul is saying too. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #25

I'm gonna say that's extremely likely. CATO approved talking points are so quaint, aren't they? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #90

OP 10,623 of the Greenwald Haters Club. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #27

Do you agree with Greenwald's comments in the OP? n/t ProSense Jun 2014 #31

Not particularly but I do not have an obsessive hatred of him either. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #35

So are we supposed to read Greenwald or not? jeff47 Jun 2014 #52

If Only GG Didn't Have An Obsessive Hatred otohara Jun 2014 #57

Exactly, otohara.. but, I think he was a bush man and now he's Cha Jun 2014 #139

!?!?! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #91

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #118

Another Lame distraction from the OP. Greenwald is his own worst enemy. nm Cha Jun 2014 #112

I disagree with Greenwald on this issue, this wasn't a "transfer" or "release" Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #36

Can you show where "trade" is defined as unique from "release" in the law? Maedhros Jun 2014 #68

The law doesn't make the distinction one way or other, that will be left up Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #96

Greenwald. LOL... SidDithers Jun 2014 #41

Greenwald uses _________ to hit Obama, Democrats. liberal N proud Jun 2014 #44

No, you got it exactly right. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #69

Here you go. On point and everything. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2014 #47

No, ProSense Jun 2014 #60

Yep. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #88

~~!!�BERGDAHLZI�!!~~ Whisp Jun 2014 #49

you must really be in love with Glenn Greenwald corkhead Jun 2014 #53

Yes, ProSense Jun 2014 #58

I wish people would have gotten this upset every time Dubya broke the law in his two terms. Rex Jun 2014 #56

Greenwald: April 2006 Media finally starting to report the President's systematic lawbreaking Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #65

Yes, Greenwald was one of those who DID care that Bush broke the law. deurbano Jun 2014 #86

Did the M$M report on any of these stories in detail? Rex Jun 2014 #114

No And why does that matter.Greenwald has been nothing but consistent. He wrote 3 books slamming Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #122

Not talking about Glen, I am talking about people here and in the national spotlight Rex Jun 2014 #123

THAT'S what I keep saying. Bush the CRACKHEAD was doing illegal things Ecumenist Jun 2014 #145

The OP is a bit twisted. bvar22 Jun 2014 #59

The OP ProSense Jun 2014 #64

If Obama wanted the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed, it would be. Maedhros Jun 2014 #71

You're wrong: he needs to give them notification, doesn't need their approval frazzled Jun 2014 #73

Then GITMO should be closed within a month. bvar22 Jun 2014 #83

Sure...if we can find countries to take them. That's the number one reason even the cleared msanthrope Jun 2014 #84

Well, that is the excuse they are using. bvar22 Jun 2014 #89

It's not always a snap to find (responsible) countries to take them frazzled Jun 2014 #99

Thank You G_j Jun 2014 #87

Ya gots no cred, Greenwad. SoapBox Jun 2014 #61

+ 1,000 Tikki Jun 2014 #63

GG is a POS. eom MohRokTah Jun 2014 #66

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #70

Greenwald does not understand the law frazzled Jun 2014 #74

Yup, that's referenced (Senate eases) in the OP. n/t ProSense Jun 2014 #82

GG was probably too busy signing mega book & movie deals to notice the new "law". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #93

Granting, that which I consider flimsy the statement isn't exactly true as there were no restriction TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #150

Of course he did, it's his favorite pasttime. -eom gcomeau Jun 2014 #75

Thanks guys, Pres O did not break any laws Iliyah Jun 2014 #78

Huh? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #79

What? ProSense Jun 2014 #81

No word games, I picked two quotes from your post, one from Greenwald and one from you. A Simple Game Jun 2014 #92

What ProSense Jun 2014 #95

"...utter nonsense." So those two quotes weren't from your OP. Interesting. A Simple Game Jun 2014 #98

Right ProSense Jun 2014 #101

Well, it's not a "simple game" for nothing. smh nm Cha Jun 2014 #137

Who? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #141

Greenwald keeps showing us what he's about. He's all about hating on Obama. stevenleser Jun 2014 #85

Hate + Greed = tons of $$$$$$. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #94

he makes a good point Enrique Jun 2014 #100

It's ProSense Jun 2014 #104

Seems like Greenwald has a reasonable position here, although I think the issue is complicated. Vattel Jun 2014 #127

GG must think his "defenders" will eat this up no matter what he says. nm Cha Jun 2014 #133

It's a stupid point.. just GG trying to act like he knows shit. nm Cha Jun 2014 #132

the comments at the firstlook link are very readable grasswire Jun 2014 #105

So when does he get his own FOX show I wonder? ucrdem Jun 2014 #107

Fox has to be considering an hour or two of Attacks from the Left. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #111

He was all over FOX when his book came out. ucrdem Jun 2014 #135

He's always hated Obama. JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #108

This is click-bait journalism at its finest. joshcryer Jun 2014 #110

Greenwald's an ignorant ratfucker and here's why.. Cha Jun 2014 #125

k&r... spanone Jun 2014 #129

The front page of The Intercept has "news" from last February ucrdem Jun 2014 #134

I will go with DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #136

I'm an engineer, not a lawyer The Traveler Jun 2014 #142

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2014 #143

Go count your ill gotten money, Mr. Greenbacks, and shut your pie hole. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #144

ProSense uses Greenwald to bore us all to death n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #153

whatchamacallit makes inane comment about ProSense Again. Cha Jun 2014 #157

When is Greenwald going to be.. butterfly77 Jun 2014 #160