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In reply to the discussion: The individual mandate, a Republican idea which shows how far to the right the Dems have gone [View all]joshcryer
(62,536 posts)79. The amicus briefs to the SCOTUS to shoot down the law tell you which side is REALLY right wing.
This is just an authoritarian left wing propaganda talking point, that it was a "Republican idea."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/us/politics/lobby-groups-blanket-supreme-court-on-obama-health-care-plan.html?pagewanted=all
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2012/03/briefs-and-amicus-briefs-in-health-care.html
http://www.americanbar.org/publications/preview_home/11-398.html
1. Whether Congress had the power under Article I of the Constitution to enact the minimum coverage provision.
Merit Briefs
Brief for Petitioners Department of Health and Human Services, et al.
Brief for State Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Private Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Reply Brief for Petitioners Department of Health and Human Services, et al.
Amicus Briefs
In Support of Petitioners (in support of the federal law)
Brief for 104 Health Law Professors in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for AARP in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Advocacy for Patients with Chronic Illness, Inc., in Support of Petitioner
Brief for the American Association of People With Disabilities, The Arc of the United States, Breast Cancer Action, Families USA, Friends of Cancer Research, March of Dimes Foundation, National Breast Cancer Coalition, National Coalition for Cancer Survivorship, National Health Law Program, National Organization for Rare Diseases, National Senior Citizens Law Center, National Womens Health Network, The Ovarian Cancer National Alliance and Voices for Americas Children in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Cancer Society, the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, American Diabetes Association, and the American Heart Association Supporting Petitioners Urging Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Federation of Labor and the Congress of Industrial Organizations in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Hospital Association, et al in Support of Petitioner with Respect to the Individual Mandate
Brief for American Nurses Association; American Academy of Pediatrics; American Medical Student Association; Doctors for America; the National Hispanic Medical Association; and the National Physicians Alliance in Support of Petitioners and Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Massachusetts, Inc., in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for California Endowment in Support of Petitioners and in Favor of the Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Child Advocacy Organizations in Support of Petitioners on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Constitutional Law and Economics Professors in Support of Petitioners
Brief for Constitutional Law Scholars in Support of Petitioners (Minimum Coverage Provision)
Brief for David R. Riemer and Community Advocates in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for California Public Employees' Retirement System, et al in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Economic Scholars in Support Of Petitioners Urging Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for the Governor of Washington Christine Gregoire in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Health Care for All, Inc., Health Law Advocates, Inc., et al. in Support of Petitioners and Urging Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Health Care Policy History Scholars in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Jewish Alliance for Law and Social Action, Jewish Council on Urban Affairs, Jewish Social Policy Action Network, New England Jewish Labor Committee in Support of Petitioners
Brief for Lambda Legal Defense Fund, et al, in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Law Professors Barry Friedman and Matthew Adler, et al., in Support of Petitioners and Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc., the American Civil Liberties Union, and the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the National Women's Law Center, et al in Support of Petitioner on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Prescription Policy Choices, Professors of Law, and Professors of Health Policy in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Service Employees International Union and Change to Win Addressing the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue and Supporting Petitioners and Reversal
Brief for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Congressional Leaders and Heads of Committees of Relevant Jurisdictions in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Small Business Majority Foundation, INC and the Main Street Alliance in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for State Legislators from All Fifty States, The District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico Supporting Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the States of Maryland, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, New York, Oregon and Vermont and the District of Columbia in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Young Invincibles in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
In Support of Respondents (people against the law)
Brief for the 1851 Center for Constitutional Law in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for American Catholic Lawyers Association, Inc., in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Center for Law and Justice, 119 Members of the United States Congress, and More Than 144,000 Supporters of the ACLJ in Support of Respondents and Urging Affirmance on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Civil Rights Union, the Social Security Institute and the 10th Amendment Foundation, inc. in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for American College of Pediatricians, Christian Medical & Dental Associations, American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians & Gynecologists, Catholic Medical Association, Physicians for Life, National Association of Pro Life Nurses, and Medical Students for Life of America in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Legislative Exchange Council in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Life League in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Association of American Physicians And Surgeons, inc., and Individual Physicians in Support of Respondents Regarding the Individual Mandate Issue
Brief for Authors Orgins of Authors of the Origins of The Necessary and Proper Clause (Gary Lawson, Robert G. Natelson & Guy Seidman) and the Independence Institute in Support of Respondent on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Caesar Rodney Institute in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Catholic Vote and Steven J. Willis in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Cato Institute, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Pacific Legal Foundation, 14 Other Organizations, and 333 State Legislators Supporting Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, Judicial Education Project, Reason Foundation, the Individual Rights Foundation, the Heritage Foundation, Ending Spending, inc., and Former Senators George Lemieux and Hank Brown in Support of Respondents Regarding th Minimum Coverage Provision Issue.
Brief for Citizens and Legislators in the Fourteen Health Care Freedom States in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision (associated with ALEC)
Brief for Citizens Council for Health Freedom, Supporting the Respondents, and Addressing the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue
Brief for Docs4patientcare, Benjamin Rush Society, Pacific Research Institute, Galen Institute, and Angel Raich in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision (supports doctor-patient 'sanctity')
Brief for Economists in Support of Respondents Regarding Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Employer Solutions Staffing Group in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Egon Mittelmann, Esq. in Support of Respondents Mary Brown and Kaj Ahlburg on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Former U.S. Department Officials in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Foundation for Moral Law, in Support of Respondents, Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Independent Womens Forum in Support of Respondents
Brief for the Insitute for Justice in Support of Respondent
Brief for HSA Coalition, Inc. and the Constitution Defense Fund, a Project of Freedomworks Foundation in Support of Respondents Regardin the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for John Boehner Speaker of the House in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Judicial Watch, inc. in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Landmark Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Liberty Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Liberty University, Inc., Michele Waddell, and Joann Merrill in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Members of the United States Senate in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue
Brief for the Missouri Attorney General in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Montana Shooting Sports Association in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Mountain States Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents
Brief for Oklahoma in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Partnership for America in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Project Liberty in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Rutherford Institute in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Senator Rand Paul in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Single Payer Action, It's Our Economy, and Fifty Medical Doctors who Support Single Payer in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Stephen M. Trattner in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Tax Foundation in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Texas Public Policy Foundation in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Thomas More Law Center, Jann Demars, John Ceci, Steven Hyder, and Salina Hyder in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Commonwealth of Virginia, ex rel. Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall, Virginia Senator Dick Black, Oklahoma Representative Charles Key, the Institute on the Constitution, U.S. Justice Foundation, Gun Owners Foundation, the Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, the United States Constitutional Rights Legal Defense Fund, Inc., Conservative Legal Defense and Education Fund, Policy Analysis Center, Downsize DC Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Inc., the Liberty Committee, Public Advocate of the United States, American Life League, Inc., and DownsizeDC.org in Support of Respondent on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Washington Legal Foundation and Constitutional Law Scholars in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Other
Brief for the Health Foundation of Greater Cincinnati in Support of Neither Party Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Merit Briefs
Brief for Petitioners Department of Health and Human Services, et al.
Brief for State Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Private Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Reply Brief for Petitioners Department of Health and Human Services, et al.
Amicus Briefs
In Support of Petitioners (in support of the federal law)
Brief for 104 Health Law Professors in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for AARP in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Advocacy for Patients with Chronic Illness, Inc., in Support of Petitioner
Brief for the American Association of People With Disabilities, The Arc of the United States, Breast Cancer Action, Families USA, Friends of Cancer Research, March of Dimes Foundation, National Breast Cancer Coalition, National Coalition for Cancer Survivorship, National Health Law Program, National Organization for Rare Diseases, National Senior Citizens Law Center, National Womens Health Network, The Ovarian Cancer National Alliance and Voices for Americas Children in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Cancer Society, the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, American Diabetes Association, and the American Heart Association Supporting Petitioners Urging Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Federation of Labor and the Congress of Industrial Organizations in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Hospital Association, et al in Support of Petitioner with Respect to the Individual Mandate
Brief for American Nurses Association; American Academy of Pediatrics; American Medical Student Association; Doctors for America; the National Hispanic Medical Association; and the National Physicians Alliance in Support of Petitioners and Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Massachusetts, Inc., in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for California Endowment in Support of Petitioners and in Favor of the Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Child Advocacy Organizations in Support of Petitioners on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Constitutional Law and Economics Professors in Support of Petitioners
Brief for Constitutional Law Scholars in Support of Petitioners (Minimum Coverage Provision)
Brief for David R. Riemer and Community Advocates in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for California Public Employees' Retirement System, et al in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Economic Scholars in Support Of Petitioners Urging Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for the Governor of Washington Christine Gregoire in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Health Care for All, Inc., Health Law Advocates, Inc., et al. in Support of Petitioners and Urging Reversal on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Health Care Policy History Scholars in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Jewish Alliance for Law and Social Action, Jewish Council on Urban Affairs, Jewish Social Policy Action Network, New England Jewish Labor Committee in Support of Petitioners
Brief for Lambda Legal Defense Fund, et al, in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Law Professors Barry Friedman and Matthew Adler, et al., in Support of Petitioners and Reversal of the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc., the American Civil Liberties Union, and the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the National Women's Law Center, et al in Support of Petitioner on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Prescription Policy Choices, Professors of Law, and Professors of Health Policy in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Service Employees International Union and Change to Win Addressing the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue and Supporting Petitioners and Reversal
Brief for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Congressional Leaders and Heads of Committees of Relevant Jurisdictions in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Small Business Majority Foundation, INC and the Main Street Alliance in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for State Legislators from All Fifty States, The District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico Supporting Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the States of Maryland, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New Mexico, New York, Oregon and Vermont and the District of Columbia in Support of Petitioners Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Young Invincibles in Support of Petitioner Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
In Support of Respondents (people against the law)
Brief for the 1851 Center for Constitutional Law in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for American Catholic Lawyers Association, Inc., in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Center for Law and Justice, 119 Members of the United States Congress, and More Than 144,000 Supporters of the ACLJ in Support of Respondents and Urging Affirmance on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Civil Rights Union, the Social Security Institute and the 10th Amendment Foundation, inc. in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for American College of Pediatricians, Christian Medical & Dental Associations, American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians & Gynecologists, Catholic Medical Association, Physicians for Life, National Association of Pro Life Nurses, and Medical Students for Life of America in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Legislative Exchange Council in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the American Life League in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Association of American Physicians And Surgeons, inc., and Individual Physicians in Support of Respondents Regarding the Individual Mandate Issue
Brief for Authors Orgins of Authors of the Origins of The Necessary and Proper Clause (Gary Lawson, Robert G. Natelson & Guy Seidman) and the Independence Institute in Support of Respondent on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Caesar Rodney Institute in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Catholic Vote and Steven J. Willis in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Cato Institute, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Pacific Legal Foundation, 14 Other Organizations, and 333 State Legislators Supporting Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Issue
Brief for Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, Judicial Education Project, Reason Foundation, the Individual Rights Foundation, the Heritage Foundation, Ending Spending, inc., and Former Senators George Lemieux and Hank Brown in Support of Respondents Regarding th Minimum Coverage Provision Issue.
Brief for Citizens and Legislators in the Fourteen Health Care Freedom States in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision (associated with ALEC)
Brief for Citizens Council for Health Freedom, Supporting the Respondents, and Addressing the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue
Brief for Docs4patientcare, Benjamin Rush Society, Pacific Research Institute, Galen Institute, and Angel Raich in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision (supports doctor-patient 'sanctity')
Brief for Economists in Support of Respondents Regarding Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Employer Solutions Staffing Group in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Egon Mittelmann, Esq. in Support of Respondents Mary Brown and Kaj Ahlburg on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Former U.S. Department Officials in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Foundation for Moral Law, in Support of Respondents, Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Independent Womens Forum in Support of Respondents
Brief for the Insitute for Justice in Support of Respondent
Brief for HSA Coalition, Inc. and the Constitution Defense Fund, a Project of Freedomworks Foundation in Support of Respondents Regardin the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for John Boehner Speaker of the House in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Judicial Watch, inc. in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Landmark Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Liberty Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Liberty University, Inc., Michele Waddell, and Joann Merrill in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Members of the United States Senate in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision Issue
Brief for the Missouri Attorney General in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Montana Shooting Sports Association in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Mountain States Legal Foundation in Support of Respondents
Brief for Oklahoma in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Partnership for America in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Project Liberty in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Rutherford Institute in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Senator Rand Paul in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Single Payer Action, It's Our Economy, and Fifty Medical Doctors who Support Single Payer in Support of Respondents on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Stephen M. Trattner in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Tax Foundation in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Texas Public Policy Foundation in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Thomas More Law Center, Jann Demars, John Ceci, Steven Hyder, and Salina Hyder in Support of Respondent Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Commonwealth of Virginia, ex rel. Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall, Virginia Senator Dick Black, Oklahoma Representative Charles Key, the Institute on the Constitution, U.S. Justice Foundation, Gun Owners Foundation, the Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, the United States Constitutional Rights Legal Defense Fund, Inc., Conservative Legal Defense and Education Fund, Policy Analysis Center, Downsize DC Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Inc., the Liberty Committee, Public Advocate of the United States, American Life League, Inc., and DownsizeDC.org in Support of Respondent on the Minimum Coverage Provision
Brief for the Washington Legal Foundation and Constitutional Law Scholars in Support of Respondents Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Other
Brief for the Health Foundation of Greater Cincinnati in Support of Neither Party Regarding the Minimum Coverage Provision
Now, out of all of those, a record number of briefs, one, count them, one that I can see actually supports something better than what's on the books. The rest want to shoot it down because they hate that it takes their "freedoms." They're mostly right wing "free market" policy wonks who hate ACA.
What strange bedfellows the OP and the people recing the OP have. Strange bedfellows indeed.
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The individual mandate, a Republican idea which shows how far to the right the Dems have gone [View all]
MadHound
Apr 2012
OP
You know what? There are those of us who feel we are not allowed to say that the mandate is LEFT,
patrice
Apr 2012
#26
Just maybe it's Obama's way of ensuring that the individual mandate is off the table forever?
nanabugg
Apr 2012
#80
Or it could be used to provide "universal" health care through health savings accounts or some
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#85
Well, that is a telling statement about how far to the right you and a lot of this country have gone
MadHound
Apr 2012
#86
The PCORI doesn't do that for gov't; It's the tool by means of which CONSUMERS affect the exchanges.
patrice
Apr 2012
#24
Why do you discount the fact that the PCORI is built out of actual empirical PATIENT CENTERED data?
patrice
Apr 2012
#57
With 1/2 a trillion of taxpayer money and ongoing premiums from vast numbers of captured customers
Uncle Joe
Apr 2012
#25
Supposedly from cutting "waste and fraud". But I think that is BS. I think it's more along the
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#87
Don't forget that the Republicans now rejecting the mandate have moved even further to the right
libinnyandia
Apr 2012
#3
I'm not sure how it follows that the existence of AIM (founded 1968) means that Nixon
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#102
I think wonkette leans left, and I believe her column was tongue in cheek. The nixon library,
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#108
Nixon's proposal was better, and didn't include a mandate. I believe this is descended from the
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#93
I don't understand: If you don't stand-up for a LEGAL mandate, HOW can you get to Single Payer?
patrice
Apr 2012
#21
Also a big, big similarity: Government REQUIRED to implement Health Care, ergo a mandate of somekind
patrice
Apr 2012
#43
And you are not stretching far enough, in an extremely complex & dynamic REALITY. nt
patrice
Apr 2012
#52
Nixon's plan *didn't* have a mandate. Like I told you before. Why do you keep saying it did?
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#91
Because while the "progressive" judges are indeed progressive on social issues,
MadHound
Apr 2012
#49
Why did the Medicare Part D program get by with making us choose an insurance company for that
jwirr
Apr 2012
#13
Because the huge corporations own all the politicians. It is called Corporatism.
CAPHAVOC
Apr 2012
#17
Medicare Part D is a big fat boondoggle because of the corporate welfare factor.
Zalatix
Apr 2012
#82
Agreed but what I was asking is why it was constitutional and the HCR may not be?
jwirr
Apr 2012
#113
the notion that ins. cos. won't immediately start working to bypass any regulations in the ACA
KG
Apr 2012
#19
And there will be NO grounds to defend against those attacks if we yeild the Constitutionality of
patrice
Apr 2012
#22
Stereotypical characterizations don't include minimal hypothetical analysis of any other factors.
patrice
Apr 2012
#37
You know, it really is insulting when you accuse people of being tools, or victims, of the media
MadHound
Apr 2012
#46
What is not insulting about the assumptions which YOU make???? I will not attack your right to make
patrice
Apr 2012
#53
I think it's very interesting how so many assume that O yeilded to the mandate out of some kind of
patrice
Apr 2012
#30
Given that he went from supporting single payer, then promising a public option,
MadHound
Apr 2012
#39
Well, he as sure as fuck wasn't going to be able to go anywhere with any of it unless he was elected
patrice
Apr 2012
#50
The "Liberal" (ha!) justices are establishing Constitutional authority for gov't implemented HC. nt
patrice
Apr 2012
#60
I predict that they will uphold the constitutionality of the individual mandate. And will do so
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#96
And it's a nice set-up for the Republicans' return in 2016, maybe with Jeb.
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#101
"Appeal to authority" = logical fallacy. Debate the argument or the information.
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#92
Agreed. Heritage came out for the mandate in 1989. Now they're against it. (Wink, wink)
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#97
The amicus briefs to the SCOTUS to shoot down the law tell you which side is REALLY right wing.
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#79
So why are Democrats such as yourself now pushing a plan that has its origins
MadHound
Apr 2012
#126
With the MLR cap on the insurance companies a sure fire way for them to make more profits is..
Fumesucker
Apr 2012
#105
One of the prime reasons I preferred Barack to Hillary was Hillary's support for a private mandate..
Fumesucker
Apr 2012
#107
I post a link to a Media Matters article that references a Drudge talking point and you ... use it?
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#143
My point being that "personal responsibility" has been a Republican talking point for quite a while.
Fumesucker
Apr 2012
#153
Now that I look more closely I think I better read up before I shoot off my mouth.
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#94
I don't really care that much about it, but I do not like being framed as a right winger...
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#135