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In reply to the discussion: I’ll just say it!!! If you’re a Republican you’re a racist!!! [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Our own government did that in the 1950s. Here is where history helps. We are being taken over for some very similar reasons. Healthcare is a big thing. Since you obviously can use the google, check what they think about the UK and NHS. Free hint, Israel has a national free healthcare system, Single payor, and government run education all the way to HS and college, and Labor makes no bones of being a socialist party. They also have kibbutzim, which are very much run on socialist grounds I know, the horror, and these guys have no clue of the difference either, like most Americans. Red is Red.
They are no longer in charge but Likud has never privatized those services, or forced kibbutzim out of business...so if you are a Bircher that makes Bibby Netanyahu a statist Stalinist commie. You still defend them, because while commies, they are slightly better than them Arabs (and these Jews are white, Birchers have a tad of old fashioned racism running through, so does the tea party, but a Rockefeller a Republican will not, that is a business faction, same types that expelled the Birchers back in the day. Pay attention to that bouncy ball)
In his early political life a certain actor from Orange County (Ronald Reagan) played with that fire, but walked away as the mainstream political party walked away. Some of his hard core anti red views came from that. He wanted to play in state and national politics. The Birchers remained important in local OC politics until the early 90s.
These days they are nuts, but internally consistent. And if you strike a conversation well, you'd better understand what crazyness will come your way. I don't argue, not my job. I got one mouth, two ears, you figure the ratio.
For the record, the same happens when you talk to Libertarians, and tea parties. In my area (politics is local) they are part of the colorful background, make some government hearings entertaining, but hardly that influential. And if they got the media on their side...the country would see the light. I always byte my tongue when they say that, to be honest.
Hell, local city council was elected on TP platform in 2010, and this year ran a far more moderate campaign. Like Reagan, she discovered actual gov. Work is a tad different. She has turned pretty decent in the fill pot holes department. I would not dream of voting for her to anything higher and did not vote for her in 2010 either. But the evolution has been interesting.