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nomorenomore08

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174. Racism is just as much collective/cultural as individual, if not more so.

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:30 PM

Jun 2014

If anything, "prejudice" is what individuals (not even necessarily members of the majority) engage in amongst each other, while "racism" is the social and political structures which enshrine certain prejudices as the norm.

And the right wing is fucking racist, full stop. Not only are most of them prejudiced against nonwhites on a personal level, but as a whole they see nothing wrong with the social and political oppression of certain races - like treating black children as criminals practically from birth. A great many of these people's views on race aren't substantially different from their parents or grandparents who participated in lynchings etc.

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I�ll just say it!!! If you�re a Republican you�re a racist!!! [View all] busterbrown Jun 2014 OP

One caveat, if you are a minority republican you are a bigot, not a racist... randys1 Jun 2014 #1

I would love to see your proof YarnAddict Jun 2014 #2

Here is how you do it, ask them for ONE thing Obama has done since president that randys1 Jun 2014 #4

Well, YarnAddict Jun 2014 #8

Those are my points, you are proving my argument randys1 Jun 2014 #36

Fully one third of the "stimulus" was comprised of tax cuts. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #206

BS NobodyHere Jun 2014 #35

When did I say that about Clinton, dont change the subject randys1 Jun 2014 #37

My point was NobodyHere Jun 2014 #41

Not the same thing, I am proving that other than the usual randys1 Jun 2014 #44

You could say the same thing about Clinton, I used to ask them why they hated him so much sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #225

OMG! I totally agree with Sabrina on some thing!! YEA! EX500rider Jun 2014 #231

For Christ sakes!!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #20

"if you are a minority republican you are a bigot, not a racist.." Depends on the situation, though. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #148

Am I racist if I like Obama but not Cain joeglow3 Jun 2014 #3

did you Niceguy1 Jun 2014 #5

Very Clever.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #21

Really? joeglow3 Jun 2014 #33

It's a matter of thinking a certain race is default "bad" and that the "good" ones are the exception nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #128

Maybe, though as I correctly pointed out in Post 147..... AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #149

Racism is just as much collective/cultural as individual, if not more so. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #174

I did not realize that defending my point would include so much semantics.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #205

I'm thinkin' there's not a whole lot of Republicans Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #6

Just looking for the ones who disagree with my opinion that fact that 98% of Republicans busterbrown Jun 2014 #201

Jesus Christ, Man, On the Road Jun 2014 #7

I do.... busterbrown Jun 2014 #22

CAN WE GET AN AMEN NobodyHere Jun 2014 #43

I did not know Clinton was black nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #53

Just started following politics I see.. pipoman Jun 2014 #229

I think that you need to define what you mean by racism before you make this statement el_bryanto Jun 2014 #9

if racism is defined as being a Republican Enrique Jun 2014 #11

Was Elizabeth Warren a racist back when she was a Republican? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #10

I�m talking in the present !!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #24

On what day did the "Republicans=Racists" thing become true? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #40

I�ll give you a good start.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #55

Or the day he launched his campaign in Philadelphia MS randys1 Jun 2014 #102

Warren was a republican in the 90s, so I guess she qualifies mathematic Jun 2014 #104

Do I think Elizabeth Warren was personally racist back in the 90's? Probably not, particularly. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #176

How convenient. 840high Jun 2014 #63

Doh! Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #164

why does Obama have a racist as his Sec. of defense? Enrique Jun 2014 #12

To prove he�s not angry Black man.. That just because you practice hate, I don�t... busterbrown Jun 2014 #49

All white americans are racist to some extent, myself included randys1 Jun 2014 #103

What about me? I'm 3/4 white, 1/4 Filipina. And of course I'm a Democrat. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #138

If you receive benefits of the existing, widespread institutional racism because of your perceived randys1 Jun 2014 #139

randys1 appears to adhere to one of the most extreme interpretations of SJW ideology out there. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #153

So what? How does this harm you in any way? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #177

It wasn't about hurt feelings in this case, though, TBH. nt AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #186

I can understand being irritated by the stridency of certain people. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #187

I'm not. And neither are most of the people I've known in my life. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #151

LOL oh man, nice try...I dont want to get kicked out of DU so I will just say randys1 Jun 2014 #152

It was a genuine attempt at outreach, mind you. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #154

Actually the opposite, but as long as you deny your benefits of racism, i see no reason for randys1 Jun 2014 #155

Okay, I see. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #157

But I am intelligent enough to know racism is EVERYWHERE and as a white person I benefit randys1 Jun 2014 #158

Maybe. Some people probably have. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #161

Yes, there is structural racism nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #165

You guys are obviously working with different definitions of "racist." Myself, I try not to get nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #178

Totally agree.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #204

My mom and dad (Republicans) aren't racists. Throd Jun 2014 #13

Despicable politicians. Similar to Ted Cruz... Nothing to do with Race.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #51

So it's racist when "they" do it, but not when you do it? Throd Jun 2014 #69

You make no sense.... how am I racist? busterbrown Jun 2014 #72

He's not assuming a certain race is default "bad" and that the "good" ones are the exception. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #179

So its not racism when many on DU call them "Uncle Toms" forthemiddle Jun 2014 #192

I think Allan West and Hermain Cain fit the definition of cow towing to Republican racist. busterbrown Jun 2014 #200

So sorry, deaniac21 Jun 2014 #234

Ah....You picked it up.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #235

I used to be, and I wasn't Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #14

Key word is �Say�... busterbrown Jun 2014 #25

Fine. Whatever..... Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #30

they're not racist Skittles Jun 2014 #73

*Overt* racism is certainly not the only form. One mistake people tend to make. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #180

Here is one reason that haz zero to do with race... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #228

YOUR use of the phrase "married to a black" raises my antenna about you. n/t NOVA_Dem Jun 2014 #15

Oh wow...Very insightful!!!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #56

I seperate people in general between "good ones" and "bad ones" hughee99 Jun 2014 #16

Yea, if your opinions are based on the race of that person.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #85

What? hughee99 Jun 2014 #99

Because.. It is never phrased when speaking of whites as good ones or bad ones.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #121

Abraham Lincoln was a racist? MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #17

Yea I agree.. And you don�t think they were pissed off at having to support... busterbrown Jun 2014 #70

Yes!!!! Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist!! Why don't you know this already!?!?! bravenak Jun 2014 #182

One more just in case. bravenak Jun 2014 #185

Today's extremist Republicans Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #232

They're racist. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #207

This is obviously factually wrong. Please use "racist" to mean what it means. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #18

That is a broad brush you paint with. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #19

If a person supports policies that are essentially racist Blaukraut Jun 2014 #23

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #181

What if I'm a moderate but don't like Lithuanians ..... clarice Jun 2014 #26

We are talking about the Black American issue... Nothing else.. Your analogy is terrible.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #87

Read: sarcasm/humor nt clarice Jun 2014 #241

Too specific... Wounded Bear Jun 2014 #27

If you belonged to the Nazi Party... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #28

yep. R(acist) E(vil) P(eople) U(SING) B(ullshit) L(ies) Pathwalker Jun 2014 #29

"I'll just say it!!!" And you will just have to live with being wrong. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #31

Now twll the story of your relative who is a Republican who says he does not hate Blacks.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #45

What? nt. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #46

Oh,,,, you must know some people who are in your life who are Republicans and are not Racists.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #52

Why? Your question makes no sense. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #57

Well since you state that I am incorrect, I thought you might have some examples of Republican... busterbrown Jun 2014 #62

Given that not all republicans are members of the tea party nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #68

You know what? You are really delusional... busterbrown Jun 2014 #84

Yup, that is why the US chamber is throwing money hand over fist nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #86

Come on..I�m not stupid.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #89

You are actually quite ignorant nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #92

Thank you... I will consider your advice... busterbrown Jun 2014 #94

Actually the local central committee is quite dysfunctional nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #100

You incorrectness is based on common sense. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #77

My own parents for one.....and I know my maternal grandparents aren't as well. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #156

My father, a Republican, voted for Obama ... twice. 1000words Jun 2014 #32

Here you go....Tell me why is he still in the Republican Party. busterbrown Jun 2014 #58

You would have to ask my father 1000words Jun 2014 #61

But you did speak for him...Correct? busterbrown Jun 2014 #64

Where did I do that? 1000words Jun 2014 #66

Not all Republicans are racists, but it is true that most racists are Republicans ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2014 #34

+1 million Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #136

+ 2 million nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #184

Republican policies: yallerdawg Jun 2014 #38

Anyone I mean anyone who supports this crap is an out and out racist!!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #47

Do you like Cain or West? AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #39

Ah broad brushes in the morning nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #42

Two entirely different issues... busterbrown Jun 2014 #48

Nope, you are making the other side the other nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #50

I really do dislike sweeping generalizations. sakabatou Jun 2014 #54

Frightening.. If they are true...Isn�t it? busterbrown Jun 2014 #81

They are true, look, the reason you have pushback to this EVEN here at DU is simple randys1 Jun 2014 #127

Given I am an immigrant nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #143

Speak for yourself, buddy. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #210

definitely a supporter of institutionalized racism, if not interpersonally racist. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #59

+1 nt Zorra Jun 2014 #76

Excellent reply. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #80

Is it a sweeping generalization... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #60

Do you support spying on the American public? After all the party leadership nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #67

Conflating the issue of NSA Spying with my take on Republican/Teabagger Racism is nonsense.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #75

It is not conflating nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #79

This thread is going the way I exactly felt it would.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #96

A faction did. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #101

Well you are now telling me that only a fraction of the Republican Party supported the Tea busterbrown Jun 2014 #106

If you know your history nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #109

Birchers are making a come back..They have essentially become dumbed down Tbaggers. busterbrown Jun 2014 #118

No they are not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #126

Good God.. Today they come under the banner of the Libertarians, soon be left over Tea Baggers and busterbrown Jun 2014 #140

No they do not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #142

Libertarians have been on Campuses for years... busterbrown Jun 2014 #144

Yes they have different tables. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #145

Thanks... busterbrown Jun 2014 #166

And that is not strange nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #167

Here is the latest rant regarding the UK nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #175

I am a Democrat... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #82

Yes you could nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #88

In light of the Republican behavior of the last few days... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #95

Yeah, that is the *national* level nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #105

Wait a second... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #120

I go back to local parties and fifty states nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #125

And these racist Southern Democrats... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #132

I don't think Ike would be a Republican today nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #135

I strongly doubt that George Wallace would be a Democrat today. He'd have to Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #141

Unrec. Broad brush. 840high Jun 2014 #65

I'll just say it. If you make broad brush statements about huge groups cbayer Jun 2014 #71

Some of them?? You have got to be joking.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #78

As much as Arnie was a pain nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #90

Thanks for the attempt.. I know its hard.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #93

It's not an attempt, it is reality nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #97

Boy, you sure speak highly of yourself.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #112

Stop pretending you understand politics nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #130

Your patience and sound logic here have been second to none. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #189

Oh thank you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #190

You are actually here defending this creep? busterbrown Jun 2014 #116

Explaining how politics works is hardly defending anybody nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #129

Yes, in fact if you are still a republican you by association support the destruction of voting randys1 Jun 2014 #107

I guess Clinton was Black nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #110

I have NO idea what that means, unless you are saying that the opposition to them randys1 Jun 2014 #113

Ever since Nixon was impeached nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #133

sigh randys1 Jun 2014 #134

I will join you in that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #137

You are now moving the goalposts to include just governors and those in the house? cbayer Jun 2014 #124

People who are still Republicans, just might be mentally ill IronLionZion Jun 2014 #74

And we must YELL at alleged democrats when they imply that Obama's treatment isnt randys1 Jun 2014 #114

Because it is not new nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #146

You either have to be ignorant, a mean, selfish, greedy POS, or all of the above, Zorra Jun 2014 #83

You know Zorra.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #91

How do you feel about using broad generalizations as a debate tool? eom yawnmaster Jun 2014 #98

Amen. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #108

Your debates with Republicans must be really short. dilby Jun 2014 #111

On the Tea Party, I agree Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #115

Hint.... whistler162 Jun 2014 #117

not all but most are JI7 Jun 2014 #119

Are Republicans racists? yallerdawg Jun 2014 #122

was there ever any doubt? ileus Jun 2014 #123

I�ll just say it! pintobean Jun 2014 #131

I dunno about that, quite, TBH. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #147

If I race my sailboat I am a racist. L0oniX Jun 2014 #150

I like NASCAR races. Does *that* make me a racist? LOL. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #159

I love Basketball, track and field, and Football.. I would say 80% black athletes.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #162

"Does this mean I could never be a racist?" I dunno. Depends. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #170

Speaking of that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #163

You can't spell TeaPubliKlan without the klan. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #160

In my personal life I know of no Democrats who are racist. I have had conversations with people who Lint Head Jun 2014 #168

I have met pretty racists democrats nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #172

(facepalm) flvegan Jun 2014 #169

I'd be willing to be though that Herman Cain and Allan West treestar Jun 2014 #171

Wrong!!! It would be their way of saying:�you see we�re not racists�... busterbrown Jun 2014 #188

My dad's a registered Republican. He's got stupid ideas about economics, but he's not a racist. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #173

My mom was a delegate to the last Republican National Convention. deurbano Jun 2014 #183

Bless your little heart... LanternWaste Jun 2014 #191

Your so right,,, Thank You... busterbrown Jun 2014 #193

Well thanks for bringing the holocaust into the picture nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #194

Listen I have family members who lived in Austria who went through hell!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #196

I lost 50 family members to the SS at Treblynka nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #222

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that if you are a Democrat, you are not racist, either. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #195

Never met a Racist Democrat.. To me a racist shows his colors by hating the idea that busterbrown Jun 2014 #198

Maybe you should get out more. NealK Jun 2014 #224

Never said they were... but far from being racists.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #226

Not all Republicans are racists, you are stereotyping some people. akbacchus_BC Jun 2014 #197

You actually know a republican who is for a program of allowing an illegal immigrant a path busterbrown Jun 2014 #199

Yeah. Ronald Reagan. George Bush. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #211

Sorry....Ronald Reagan with his comments �Concerning Welfare Queens�? busterbrown Jun 2014 #212

I answered your question about immigration reform. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #214

His �Welfare Comment� trumps anything he positively tried to accomplish with minorities... busterbrown Jun 2014 #215

RE: I�ll just say it!!! doxydad Jun 2014 #202

I�m truly amazed at the push back of my O.P. busterbrown Jun 2014 #203

Most Republicans I know are overt racists. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #208

What would be their agenda I wonder.. All about taxes and business?. busterbrown Jun 2014 #209

You only have to listen to their own words, the words of the most extremist Enthusiast Jun 2014 #213

But he is only trying to inspire these people.. Tough Love... busterbrown Jun 2014 #217

Riiiight. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #220

Come to Oregon where you can enjoy Democrat Racists. dilby Jun 2014 #216

How about a couple of links.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #218

No it's liberal hipsters. dilby Jun 2014 #219

I won't dismiss your remark out of hand. I've seen it here too. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #221

I could invite him to San Diego too nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #223

One LAST time, a LIBERAL who despises Condi Rice does so because a LIBERAL is NOT a HYPOCRITE randys1 Jun 2014 #227

Absolutely the stupidest post on DU currently pipoman Jun 2014 #230

Seems like you have given up!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #233

Broad brush is a fools game... pipoman Jun 2014 #236

pipoman... My final question.. busterbrown Jun 2014 #237

You can do anything you want. pipoman Jun 2014 #238

Nice deflection!!!!! busterbrown Jun 2014 #239

Or simply the answer to a question. If you meant to ask a different question... pipoman Jun 2014 #240