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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts) Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:28 AM Jun 2014

The Catholic Church is now associated with four "mass graves" in Ireland [View all]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/06/05/319100479/amid-horror-at-mass-graves-of-children-calls-in-ireland-for-an-inquiry

(BTW NPR, way to bury the lede...)

At what point do we stop talking about memorials for the "wee ones" and start declaring these sites crime scenes?

At what point do we prosecute the Vatican for crimes against humanity?

Imagine if a foreign government, say Iran, was found to have operated homes for unwed mothers in this country, and four "mass graves" were discovered with corpses of abused/neglected infants and children. How long before those sites would be crawling with the FBI? How long before the FBI descended on every single religious school run by Iran with picks and shovels? How long would churches. under the direct control of Tehran and operating in the U.S., be allowed to remain open?

(And before anyone casts aspersions, I am an ex-Irish Catholic from nuns, to altar boy, to Confirmation, et al)

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The Catholic Church is now associated with four "mass graves" in Ireland [View all] Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 OP

Can you imagine the outrage if these were fetuses from an abortion clinic? n2doc Jun 2014 #1

born, baptized and discarded tk2kewl Jun 2014 #4

And in many cases, according to the records... theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #6

Not baptised The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #26

Wow! tk2kewl Jun 2014 #27

In fairness - if these orphanages weren't associated with the Catholic Church el_bryanto Jun 2014 #7

Yes, the Church is the real victim here theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #8

Obviously this is a terrible story el_bryanto Jun 2014 #9

Maybe b/c The Church professes & preaches morality & claims its authority derives from God? Demit Jun 2014 #12

Also because of the Church's absolute stance on abortion. Treating abortion as the tblue37 Jun 2014 #31

It's not like threads about the abuse of women and girls aren't posted theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #19

Really? Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #13

In fairness, if you're a Roman Catholic wouldn't you want this story to have legs? Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #22

yes, they would. imagine if this came from the mormon church La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #23

Hey! They were baptized. jwirr Jun 2014 #43

Excellent post malaise Jun 2014 #2

And when are people going to point to those places where children were shoved down any Warpy Jun 2014 #3

I really now understand why my mother was so emotionally Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #15

If you've ever met someone who was "educated" in one of those places Warpy Jun 2014 #24

Every time I think I cannot get anymore cynical about the RCC Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #25

Well, the Irish church is something else again Warpy Jun 2014 #33

They have no moral ground to stand on. smirkymonkey Jun 2014 #38

I suspect that the male hierarchy of the Catholic Church will be glad to throw the nuns under the jwirr Jun 2014 #44

I have little faith there will be an independent and impartial investigation theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #5

Precisely. Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #11

But didn't you know, the Vatican is Pro-Life(TM)! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2014 #10

My stomach churns thinking of the other mass graves that are out there riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #14

The Archbishop of Tuam Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #16

And we must not forget the children they were torturing and raping. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #17

Has Pope Photo-Op commented yet?...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #18

Last year's movie "Philomena" was about this. Kablooie Jun 2014 #20

So, the RCC is guilty of crimes against humanity Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #21

I don't get it either. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #28

My response to that arguement has always been... Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #30

I look at it this way: Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #37

That's the problem with all religion in my view Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #39

Exactly. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #41

I went to school with him Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #42

+100 theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #40

It is called compartmentalizing. They refuse to connect the dots. For instance they will say that jwirr Jun 2014 #46

Management claims Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #48

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. Ilsa Jun 2014 #34

Time for a photo op of the Pope riding a skateboard! 1000words Jun 2014 #29

"Crimes against humanity"? Xithras Jun 2014 #32

Hmmm... Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #35

Today, yes. Xithras Jun 2014 #36

We are talking about these homes Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #47

More on how the children were used in vaccine experiments theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #45

I think the investigations you're calling for have been underway for several years now - hedgehog Jun 2014 #50

Crime Syndicate. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #49