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In reply to the discussion: Edward Snowden Questions Failure to Prevent 9/11 Terrorist Attacks [View all]DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)29. That may have been the deal from the jump.

Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently.
We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.
We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
~George Orwell, 1984
We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.
We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
~George Orwell, 1984
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my biggest hope is that something he has yet to release finally shines the light of truth on this
tk2kewl
Jun 2014
#3
There are two victims: First, the American people whose privacy has been invaded.
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#15
We didn't need Snowden to tell us the NSA is a giant waste, but I'm glad he did anyway
BeyondGeography
Jun 2014
#21
I believe he did name victims. He named President Obama and members of Congress were being spied on
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#46
I swear,...if we start hearing about alien attacks I'm gonna watch the Russo thing again.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#58
When this same story was posted here before, it was hidden because of the source.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#17
Some are naive, just trying to keep DU pure and others are using the lock&hide features to
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#37
I simply don't take the time to memorize which sources are DU approved and which are not
riderinthestorm
Jun 2014
#28
Some of the lock&hiders have good intentions but dont understand the idea of letting liberals
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#35
There is a concerted effort to stop people from learning the truth. One of the tactics used on
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#47
I think they are getting desperate. They see that their ideal is crumbling and yet they
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#50
That's the feeling I get also. The attacks are more intense, more angry, less subtle.
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#51
And now, millions more are going to the internet to find & read it. What you don't
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#48
You start with a biased thesis: that people who disagree with you are 'diverting'.
randome
Jun 2014
#61
You have no idea what he stole. You have no idea how much of an expert he really
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#62
"costing us our safety, but our rights and our way of life?"---Why, one mght almost conclude that
WinkyDink
Jun 2014
#24
Naw... Obama will let his own but be impeached for getting a souldier out before he does anything
grahamhgreen
Jun 2014
#25
The power to remove (healthy) food (drinkable) water and (clean) air, the basics of health and life,
DhhD
Jun 2014
#42
Thank you. That is one very sick individual. We will study what they did as we study other
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#68
The Republicans actually believed their own crap at the time that all that talk about "terrorism"...
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#34
Good to see him come to a position most of us have held for a long time. nt.
NCTraveler
Jun 2014
#38
I question the failure of a background check on hiring Snowden into the NSA in any form
Thinkingabout
Jun 2014
#66