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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
42. doxydad
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jun 2014

doxydad


I have tried to understand the idea you all see to have problem with over there - weapons all over the place - massacres where people is murdering at random - or someone who accidental shoot another with a gun - or them self trying to clean a gun - but in all this I have tried my best to grasp it all - and have possible fired on a fee neones of brain stuff in the proses - but I at a loss - I just do not understand the american 2 amendment - Even that I have been reading about it for a long time - and understood the principality around it all - mostly because the newborn US had no regular army - and it was up to each State to make sure each state was able to fend off enemies - that be indians who wanted their land back - or people royal to the UK king - or the british colonies in what is today Canada - but I have yet to grasp why ordinary people with no absolutely need for weapon at all have this idea that they have as much weapon as possible in their house - and not just ordinary weapon - who can be used in hunting (many people have hunting as a hobby, and therefore a weapon or two in the house - and is always after the best next thing) but high powered weapons who have no use what so ever in a hunting situation - but is used by military all over the world - to kill people who are their enemies...

And then we have this "gentlemen" who is walking around in shopping malls - target is one of the few ones who have been targeted for some reason by the gun "Lovers" and who surly are doing it because they scare people who have not weapons - and who is thinking about a shopping mall, or a store as a safe place to be..... To me it sounds like something out of a bad novel by Stephen King...

What it is all about? Why all this bravado about weapons, and the need for having all this weapons - because they believe that everyone is an target for their weapons - not to say the story told by some media outlets about the government wanting to take away their weapons - because they want to impose a regime who is way from US - at least in the idea who is being told to them - and what they are telling them self all the time...

In some way - I think I am lucky who live in a country - who do not have 2 amendment - who do not have a powerfully weapon lobby group like NRA - and who also have some of the worlds strictest laws when it come to weapon use... It is not perfect - a few years ago we had a lone wolf who tried to blow up our government offices, and killed 80 persons - of them 77 on a youth camp outside of our capital... He is now serving a sentence of 21 year in prison - plus possible been kept in prison for as long as it is seen necessary for keeping him there... But it is very seldom for this to happened in our country - I think it was the first of the kind since WW2 in our country - almost 70 year... And that in a country who in fact have a lot of weapon in private hands - everything from pepole who are member of gun clubs - and is shooting at targets on a field - to pepole who hunt regulary - not to say peppole of our military forces who for many reasons is eligble to having weapons in their home - a nessesarity if war was ever to break out - even if the posiblity of that happening is yet to be determined.. untill 22 july 2011 I doubt anyone in the public had any idea about blowing up the government offices - not to say killing more than 80 pepole becouse of who they was.... And I suspect it would be a long time before anything like him wil ever be representive for anything here too....

Diclotican

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That was fantastic! elias49 Jun 2014 #1
It appears to be the anti-gunner fantasy to have gun owners shooting each other... aikoaiko Jun 2014 #2
It's not that we want it to happen Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #3
Open carry is a bad idea, period...Stand your Ground is an evil one. Moostache Jun 2014 #11
I don't like the open carry demonstrators either, but it is legal so its hard to stop. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #12
Not sensing any empathy for today's dead in that "Carry on", aikoakiko. toby jo Jun 2014 #16
And your empathy? Where is it? I keep looking in your post, but.... aikoaiko Jun 2014 #17
It's difficult to have empathy for people acting in a dangerous and stupid fashion. Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #54
Gun Lovers robersl Jun 2014 #18
^ THIS ^ mac56 Jun 2014 #22
Nicely stated alcibiades_mystery Jun 2014 #23
Great post. myrna minx Jun 2014 #24
Yep. laundry_queen Jun 2014 #30
People complain about slow economic growth. Turbineguy Jun 2014 #74
Not an accurate statement. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #26
Yes, you would think the open carriers and mass shootings would lead to more gun control.. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #27
I am pro-firearms ownership. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #37
When MAIG and the Brady Campaign roll back on their demands in search of middle ground... derby378 Jun 2014 #38
Nobody important talks to me, I'm just a disabled guy in Beloit. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #43
One historical point here: Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #55
I gave credit to the Germans in general in the 30s. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #57
"Accepting that someone with a different opinion than yours The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #75
Be my guest. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #77
Excuse me, but it is not legal. Jerry442 Jun 2014 #44
A slung long gun or holstered handgun doesn't rise to the same threat as your examples. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #46
My gas can,my lighter, my ax, and my car are all legal. Jerry442 Jun 2014 #47
Of course. Whether something is threatening has to do with the behavior. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #48
And walking around, carrying a firearm, is also threatening. Apparently, you don't see that. Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #56
Tell that to the students at Seattle Pacific University. pnwmom Jun 2014 #59
I'm completely in favor of those open carry demonstrators. Crunchy Frog Jun 2014 #49
At most they'll get open carry banned, but even that would be gigantic win aikoaiko Jun 2014 #50
They're showing the true face of RKBA to the American people. Crunchy Frog Jun 2014 #52
I used to think that too. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #53
Open carry is NOT illegal in every state, but it should be. pnwmom Jun 2014 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Jun 2014 #65
I meant to say "illegal." pnwmom Jun 2014 #70
OK! I will delete my response! Thanks! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #72
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about open carry activists who carry openly where legal? aikoaiko Jun 2014 #68
My subject line was completely wrong. I oppose open carry. pnwmom Jun 2014 #71
Ahh, your posts are not helping. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #64
Helping whom? or what? aikoaiko Jun 2014 #67
It appears for some, they consider it an honor to die at the business end of a gun or... Tikki Jun 2014 #28
I am an "anti-gunner" of highest degree etherealtruth Jun 2014 #29
I don't want anybody shooting anybody. And that's the point. Aristus Jun 2014 #61
Ok, if thats what floats your boat then so be it. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #62
It happens all the time....only it doesn't. ileus Jun 2014 #4
The only difference between an open carrier and an active shooter is MNBrewer Jun 2014 #5
Pretty slim distinction. Very good reply. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #6
Or an "accidental discharge". (NT) Heywood J Jun 2014 #8
Better safe than sorry? Electric Monk Jun 2014 #36
It only takes one mistake by an open carrier or stand-your-grounder JDPriestly Jun 2014 #34
Funny how trained LEO many times have difficulty doing so, but toters don't. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #41
I disagree. I am a member of the Jewish Community Center that was the location of the shootings..... Logical Jun 2014 #66
Really good segment. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #7
Guns in America show us all 90-percent Jun 2014 #9
The post-Sandy Hook debacle was a political miscalculation on the part of the Dems hack89 Jun 2014 #13
Thanks 90-percent Jun 2014 #15
If Jon Stewart is right, this problem may take care of itself. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #33
People have an "ostensible" vote for a representative. ananda Jun 2014 #14
We can bame it on the NRA, which buys votes, or on the legislators, who sell votes. merrily Jun 2014 #10
The real genius of the show was in the second segment mountain grammy Jun 2014 #19
The main point of part 2 seems to be the 2nd amendment only applies to white people. tclambert Jun 2014 #21
That was certainly part of the original intent, at least in slave states. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #32
Exactly! mountain grammy Jun 2014 #40
K&R billh58 Jun 2014 #20
‘Gunfight at the Golden Corral.’ Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #25
Jon Stewart (or whoever wrote that for him): YOU ARE BRILLIANT! JDPriestly Jun 2014 #31
Stay out of schools , malls , churches , and post offices , and let the open carry kill the stand geretogo Jun 2014 #35
An armed society is a polite society alfredo Jun 2014 #39
doxydad Diclotican Jun 2014 #42
Completely brilliant distillation of the craziness The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #45
NRA: Arms dealers. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #51
How long, I wonder DirkGently Jun 2014 #60
So safe Electric Monk Jun 2014 #63
I swear I thought of exactly this before I DirkGently Jun 2014 #69
Funny that our mainstream media is too chicken shit to go after the NRA... Initech Jun 2014 #73
He's brilliant as always davidpdx Jun 2014 #76
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