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149. I'm sorry that's been your experience

Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:11 AM

Jun 2014

. . . it what it is here, and I'm not sure that anything I say to try and explain why is going to suffice for you.

Try and understand DU this way . . . it began as a voice against the worst of the Bush era abuses and assaults on democracy, dissent, and our constitution. Even though we elected a Democratic president, many of those issues which inspired this forum haven't been resolved, and many of those concerns have actually been exacerbated and deepened; even with the election of and advancement of Democrats.

Moreover, I think it's a mistake to view this forum as some static or cohesive community of concerns. There is a myriad of opinion and interest here - much like the country as a whole - which is never going to be completely assuaged by the balance of power in Washington. To me, that's a refreshing and reassuring dynamic which ensures the vigilance and commitment that is necessary to effect progressive change.

I am sorry that a few folks are working overtime to pluck at your last nerve.

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Let's Try It This Way...Under What Instances, Is It Okay To Praise The President On DU ??? [View all] sheshe2 Jun 2014 OP

this just doesn't read well and it comes off as whining. cali Jun 2014 #1

Irony alert KittyWampus Jun 2014 #21

really? how so? cali Jun 2014 #56

... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #78

I kinda definitely think the poster was referring a moi. My name is not Willy. cali Jun 2014 #167

Thought the same thing as I skimmed it DrDan Jun 2014 #233

Good post. Andy823 Jun 2014 #2

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #3

I thank you Andy! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #4

Um, when you're in the BOG. theaocp Jun 2014 #5

That's you answer for a Democratic board. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #16

If you want to call someone racist, have the courage to make the accusation directly. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #48

Oh please Hekate Jun 2014 #81

I only visited dis twice... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #101

That's it, she.. the Beautiful BOG that drive a few people insane.. Cha Jun 2014 #347

What a beautiful link! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #348

Yeah, The Barack Obama Group.. Cha Jun 2014 #349

There is indeed! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #351

Nice, I love that gif! The Week Ahead(More to Come..) Cha Jun 2014 #354

Oh no! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #355

Serious? They do that? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102

I read it more than once, and it was let to stand Hekate Jun 2014 #127

"It is what is IS"- What does that even mean? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #104

the Ta-nehisi Coates article really exposed a lot, i'm sure the biggest racist zimmerman supporters JI7 Jun 2014 #124

What is Dis? theaocp Jun 2014 #232

It's "The Discussionist", the new site that DU admin have set up muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #243

It's the go-to comeback Doctor_J Jun 2014 #332

Did I miss something? theaocp Jun 2014 #231

We need to enter the BOG Dragonfli Jun 2014 #352

This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Jun 2014 #6

Easy Peasy... When One Agrees... One Promotes... When One Disagrees... One Denotes... WillyT Jun 2014 #7

it's short and it rhymes! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #117

Waste Of Time billhicks76 Jun 2014 #326

it should always be ok , it's a Democratic Board JI7 Jun 2014 #8

problem (with your expectation) is bigtree Jun 2014 #9

I will agree Andy823 Jun 2014 #15

I'd say there's definitely some over-zealousness on all sides bigtree Jun 2014 #24

Its Democratic Underground....its ABOUT the Democratic Party....AND the Democratic Party VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #107

heh . . . it's about what we make it about bigtree Jun 2014 #140

Here....we are SUPPOSED to be zealous! But to come here....its like stepping through the looking VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #144

I'm sorry that's been your experience bigtree Jun 2014 #149

I lurked here for years...came to be informed....and then suddenly it started reading like FR VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #152

I know it's hard to wade through the BS bigtree Jun 2014 #154

That 'bogscum' comment was (is?) used on The Discussionist, not DU muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #193

And was it regulars to DU that used the term? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #250

You don't have to be from DU to know of the Barack Obama Group muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #261

Apparently you just contradicted yourself. As the 2 that used the term are or were former VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #264

I couldn't see that you had a point - you didn't know who was using it muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #266

Interesting perspective. So it's about the Democratic Party, not Democratic policies? Scuba Jun 2014 #201

+1 a whole fucking bunch. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #300

Well said, Scuba MissDeeds Jun 2014 #304

well said NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #308

Thanks for the affirmation Fairgo Jun 2014 #342

Excellent post, Scuba! nt City Lights Jun 2014 #365

From the DU "About Us" page: "...we have no affiliation with the Democratic Party." scarletwoman Jun 2014 #213

It's about "politically liberal" people who VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, though. MADem Jun 2014 #278

But Obama is not a candidate. grasswire Jun 2014 #290

I can't believe you said this: MADem Jun 2014 #292

go read the thread... grasswire Jun 2014 #294

What Joan of Arc reference? MADem Jun 2014 #373

Makes perfect sense to me. Defending right-wing policies and appointments is harmful .... Scuba Jun 2014 #360

No, that's crap. MADem Jun 2014 #374

So you think right-wing policies can only come from Republicans? Scuba Jun 2014 #375

"So you think" the POTUS is a right winger? MADem Jun 2014 #377

Wow, I'm amazed that a longtime DU member would defend that stuff. Scuba Jun 2014 #378

That line of attack is getting stale, too. MADem Jun 2014 #379

Excellent subthread, MADem. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #387

Well, I gotta say.... MADem Jun 2014 #388

A refreshingly even-handed comment Armstead Jun 2014 #24

Bigtree, I have no problem with people speaking out their concerns. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #47

I know some folks just like to aggravate bigtree Jun 2014 #55

I give Obama good grades on drug policy, although that will elicit some howls. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #10

You were referring to this babylonsister Jun 2014 #11

Yes it was what I was referring to, bsis. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #18

Never would I have expected Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #34

I believe i read last night that the reason some can't give him any credit is because....... bravenak Jun 2014 #12

I agree with the part about older people dominating DU. This is anecdotal but I totodeinhere Jun 2014 #26

"where is a forum for young people?" Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #37

We do need a forum for the under 35's. bravenak Jun 2014 #42

Well would you allow me to post there once in awhile if we get one? sheshe2 Jun 2014 #51

Of course anyone should be allowed to post regardless of age but the totodeinhere Jun 2014 #64

Well thanks, totodeinhere sheshe2 Jun 2014 #73

And the alternative is that you never get there. madfloridian Jun 2014 #82

Hopefully our spirit and outlook will remain young and optimistic. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #247

It's what I was referring to also. madfloridian Jun 2014 #248

I never exclude anyone. And you in particular can go anywhere with me. bravenak Jun 2014 #70

Well I know you would not exclude me... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #115

I saw that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #239

I'd like to see a group for college students as well davidpdx Jun 2014 #206

Why you young whippersnapper Hekate Jun 2014 #76

"most posters are older and many are really old." madfloridian Jun 2014 #108

age is just a number icarusxat Jun 2014 #121

I understand what you are saying, but in our society we are often categorized by our age totodeinhere Jun 2014 #249

True and older people are more critical of everything treestar Jun 2014 #215

Oh my Godz Hissyspit Jun 2014 #361

Thank you! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #363

It was damaged already treestar Jun 2014 #372

I am pissed off at the Democratic Partyv because it has become too cozy with... Armstead Jun 2014 #32

After you old guys are gone the rest of us will make up the new majority. bravenak Jun 2014 #41

Ha! Armstead Jun 2014 #52

Immature high horse. You sound so old. bravenak Jun 2014 #60

I believe your insults toward older people here are something quite new. madfloridian Jun 2014 #113

They are not insults. bravenak Jun 2014 #125

You think the issues are mostly with the elderly? madfloridian Jun 2014 #131

Mostly men and mostly older. bravenak Jun 2014 #132

The jury agrees with you. Which carries bad connotations even for us white women. madfloridian Jun 2014 #135

I am sorry for that truly. bravenak Jun 2014 #139

Didn't you just note to another poster that there are "alternatives" to getting old? Number23 Jun 2014 #179

Worth looking at actual voting figures before using your broad brush muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #194

I was really speaking of the proportion of demographic to how they voted. bravenak Jun 2014 #195

This is the first time you've mentioned percentages or proportions muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #202

If you add women to minorities and younger voters you get a majority of dems. bravenak Jun 2014 #203

This JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #358

I am getting old...but I wouldn't have said that to all young people Armstead Jun 2014 #238

You are missing the point I'm afraid Dragonfli Jun 2014 #321

Excellent post! Well said! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #346

Great post, Dragonfli. historylovr Jun 2014 #364

Great post! Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it, and those ignorant of present reality Zorra Jun 2014 #366

.... 840high Jun 2014 #85

" After you old guys are gone the rest of us will make up the new majority." madfloridian Jun 2014 #80

You should read the whole thing. bravenak Jun 2014 #94

You are saying we all sound alike? Like Republicans? Well You won the jury poll.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #95

I can see that this upsets you. bravenak Jun 2014 #105

Oh, yes it does upset me. I never use the n word, never have. madfloridian Jun 2014 #114

It's been an issue since before i joined. bravenak Jun 2014 #134

Please continue. madfloridian Jun 2014 #137

Okay. bravenak Jun 2014 #141

sad state of things here. PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #245

I think every older DUer should read what you just posted. Every word of it. madfloridian Jun 2014 #98

I agree. bravenak Jun 2014 #116

Who here trashes the black community? Name the older people here at DU who do that? madfloridian Jun 2014 #119

I just told you. bravenak Jun 2014 #130

What is AA? madfloridian Jun 2014 #133

African American. bravenak Jun 2014 #136

Regarding this exchange, I want to draw your attention to something.... msanthrope Jun 2014 #197

Thank you. bravenak Jun 2014 #199

Want clearer? msanthrope Jun 2014 #200

That was pretty bad. bravenak Jun 2014 #219

Probably true davidpdx Jun 2014 #207

Feel free to visit us when we have a thread going. bravenak Jun 2014 #209

There are many here that trash the black community here madfloridian sheshe2 Jun 2014 #145

The only groups I use are Computer Help, Education, and What's for Dinner. madfloridian Jun 2014 #146

I never thought it was racism that you did not know about the group. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #153

They don't have to put down the elderly to "take up the mantle". madfloridian Jun 2014 #157

I don't know where you are getting all that. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #170

I think you are not reading some of the posts carefully. madfloridian Jun 2014 #189

I agree with you Andy823 Jun 2014 #316

Like you, I'm over 60. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #253

what dominates politics in the US is talk radio certainot Jun 2014 #150

We know what they are doing and the people who listen to that talk radio are.... bravenak Jun 2014 #160

we don't have time to wait for it to die out certainot Jun 2014 #166

LOL!! bravenak Jun 2014 #171

i hope you're right, but it needs to happen really soon. they're getting ready to divide up certainot Jun 2014 #285

PS, the OJ trial was maddening. it was a great eg of how effective rw radio was for certainot Jun 2014 #288

I can tell you the problem isn't exclusive to the US davidpdx Jun 2014 #208

I figured the problem was widespread. bravenak Jun 2014 #212

In terms of both voting and issue positions, older white men are a strongly GOP constituency overall YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #280

The younger generation in this thread just denigrated the "old people" here at DU. madfloridian Jun 2014 #284

I'm with you, madfloridian. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #301

Agreed MissDeeds Jun 2014 #305

Well well, one juror agreed that "Yes, old white men in the way of progress. Exactly that." madfloridian Jun 2014 #84

Did you really alert my post? :( bravenak Jun 2014 #96

I think you get a copy. madfloridian Jun 2014 #99

Not if the alert fails i don't. bravenak Jun 2014 #109

Well, you seem to be quite prejudiced against old people. The jury agrees with you. madfloridian Jun 2014 #111

Really, that is your take away that she is prejudiced against OLD people? randys1 Jun 2014 #277

So now the battle is against "privileged white people"? Not just old people at DU? madfloridian Jun 2014 #281

Jury results pintobean Jun 2014 #362

For your inquiring mind: chervilant Jun 2014 #338

Well, good luck with that. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #147

In 45 years from now...... bravenak Jun 2014 #151

Well, as I said, good luck with that. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #176

I'm a discontent idealist. bravenak Jun 2014 #180

I love your optimism and fierceness lovemydog Jun 2014 #260

Without whining and moaning, the wealthy and powerful and the politicians who are their puppets.... Armstead Jun 2014 #268

The wealthy and powerful and politicians who are their puppets lovemydog Jun 2014 #273

Many people I know..... Armstead Jun 2014 #296

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. lovemydog Jun 2014 #337

and furthermore, your ideal doesn't match reality Armstead Jun 2014 #270

"Liberal on "social issues" if one is apathetic/supportive of the status quo of concentrated... scarletwoman Jun 2014 #53

Perfectly well said. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #302

You are correct of course, unfortunately, many think that only social issues should be liberal Dragonfli Jun 2014 #325

The people who control the wealth and power are happy to throw us the occasional bone totodeinhere Jun 2014 #69

Please don't take this wrong; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #246

I can't speak for everyone but... Armstead Jun 2014 #267

"I don't know many people who have basically progressive leanings who support the status quo" YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #282

yes, and I point to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #287

Oh you did indeed read about it last night... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #36

Many disrupters. bravenak Jun 2014 #44

I'm old and white (though not male) and I totally agree with you frazzled Jun 2014 #148

This was such a good post. bravenak Jun 2014 #155

You make a very important point about the focus only on class disparity frazzled Jun 2014 #241

Fabulous post. In the AA forum we bust guts laughing at the "warriors" for legalizing marijuana Number23 Jun 2014 #184

I agree lovemydog Jun 2014 #263

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #252

Great post! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #256

Excellent post YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #283

Excellent post. redqueen Jun 2014 #318

Got it. freshwest Jun 2014 #368

Wait.. what? Someone actually POSTED for everyone to see that he is critical of the Pres just to Number23 Jun 2014 #177

Oh, did you miss that one? bravenak Jun 2014 #181

Good Lord... Number23 Jun 2014 #185

He has a way with words. bravenak Jun 2014 #186

Well, folks are apparently revealing themselves all over the place lately Number23 Jun 2014 #187

You said it!! bravenak Jun 2014 #190

No, nothing you've said is controversial. NOTHING you've said is new Number23 Jun 2014 #329

Blame the victim. You are a piece of work. PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #220

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #225

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #226

BS PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #227

Bullshit. Our society caters to the older white male. bravenak Jun 2014 #228

That's funny PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #229

So this is the not all men thing? bravenak Jun 2014 #234

I do not PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #236

It's a reference to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #259

Well that true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #257

Read and understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #255

I certainly do not agree with his/her statement PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #291

Perhaps it's noteworthy to point out ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #311

please explain PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #313

re - read her post and your response. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #315

Still don't see it PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #317

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #319

That is some ugly fucking shit you just wrote. Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #320

Oh, bullshit. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #323

DU is not representative of the Democratic Party Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #328

And you are not representative of the Democratic Party. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #356

Classic example of what bravenak is talking about: Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #357

I never said it wasn't a bubble. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #359

Please link to a post at a republican board that complains the president is too conservative Doctor_J Jun 2014 #333

I've got your back... Earth_First Jun 2014 #13

LOL~ Thank you Earth_First! nt sheshe2 Jun 2014 #172

I don't understand your question. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #14

I agree that's the way it babylonsister Jun 2014 #43

Right after at least 7 OPs slamming him, but before the next 12 OPs slamming him LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #17

Good start, but we can do better. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #19

+1 bigtree Jun 2014 #27

He is an elected official. Not your prom date. And not all things are the GOPs fault. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #20

"prom date". Damn, that's insulting. And in the Reality Based Community- KittyWampus Jun 2014 #23

Criticize all you wish. That is not the issue. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #61

When you preface the apology for a political leader with the idea that he is just a man, imperfect Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #110

"prom date": insulting...and accurate. Shemp Howard Jun 2014 #68

You are indeed a dreamer! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #163

I've been pondering your accusation of sexism... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #343

Yep, you are a dreamer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #262

One thing that will be better when HRC is president Doctor_J Jun 2014 #334

There is not a single doubt in my mind that the creepy adoration will continue. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #344

No. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #22

when Obama does something that I agree with, praise. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #28

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #49

It's on him to do more things that deserve praise, Maedhros Jun 2014 #50

Not a comparison but I even praised George W. Bush once think Jun 2014 #29

I did once too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #79

... Gman Jun 2014 #30

When Obama does something praise worthy, I'll let ya know quinnox Jun 2014 #31

Way back madamesilverspurs Jun 2014 #33

Absolutely. nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #57

When he deserves it. AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #35

If his supporters didn't smear his critics so much it would be easier to priase him. Vattel Jun 2014 #38

+1000 navarth Jun 2014 #122

+1 nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #126

yes grasswire Jun 2014 #159

And that is the point that this group completely misses. Puglover Jun 2014 #237

You are free to praise him whenever you want. City Lights Jun 2014 #39

+100 840high Jun 2014 #58

the poor thangs Skittles Jun 2014 #128

I know...some here jump all over when I mention their idols talk more like Libertarians. Tikki Jun 2014 #188

guess what? even Libertarians are right sometimes Skittles Jun 2014 #191

You just caused a huge amount of cognitive dissonance among the black or white mindsets quinnox Jun 2014 #272

That's pretty much the entire gist of it right there. Doctor_J Jun 2014 #336

I'll praise Obama but I don't see his performane very rosily on the big things Armstead Jun 2014 #40

Obama never ran on a public option. Obama never once in the entire time he was campaigning for okaawhatever Jun 2014 #62

He did not run on what he ultimately supported Armstead Jun 2014 #244

Either you are lying, or this guy in the video is lying, because he said Obama did! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #330

And apparently Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #45

+100 nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #65

+2000 bravenak Jun 2014 #77

Well said, Jamaal! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #275

Praise him all you want. But people who are less impressed get to say how they feel too. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #46

R#18 & K for, haha and thanks!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2014 #54

Do what is necessary Android3.14 Jun 2014 #59

K&R baldguy Jun 2014 #63

I agree! NancyDL Jun 2014 #66

Big time K & R SheShe. nt okaawhatever Jun 2014 #67

K & R Very good post sheshe2 Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #71

Good post, she, good post. Hope you've got your baking soda handy for the acid replies. Hekate Jun 2014 #72

Baking soda. Check! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #74

Ha! Now some of you guys are going after the old folks here? We are in the way? madfloridian Jun 2014 #75

No, its how they roll Iliyah Jun 2014 #90

Well, this thread was hijacked from Sheshe by those being insulting to seniors. madfloridian Jun 2014 #93

Who's stopping you from praising? 840high Jun 2014 #83

What do you call prejudice against old people as shown in this forum... madfloridian Jun 2014 #86

ageism m-lekktor Jun 2014 #87

sure I can help you: Obama Hates Old People! Whisp Jun 2014 #91

Obama played the age card early on when speaking of SS ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #162

When he stands up and does what is right just as in the instances your post describes. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #88

K&R and thankyou sheshe. Whisp Jun 2014 #89

When they do something right because it is the right thing to do on point Jun 2014 #92

Like bringing home Bowe B Iliyah Jun 2014 #103

First of all, I didn't expect much from him, so I am not disappointed. Hoppy Jun 2014 #97

When he sends Dubya and Cheney to the Hague. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #100

D does not equal Obama underground. that's what the BOG is for nt msongs Jun 2014 #106

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #112

bit of a double standard there shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #118

If pragmatism is ones thing then President Obama is hands down the best POTUS ever. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #120

Posting while elderly. Should we continue? madfloridian Jun 2014 #123

I do believe you are serious crim son Jun 2014 #129

I was one of those smallcat88 Jun 2014 #138

When he does something that I think is good for the country. Rex Jun 2014 #142

how can anyone evaluate obama or any rep if they have no clue? certainot Jun 2014 #143

The color of one's skin Never Ever entered my mind ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #158

bullshit. the entire left spectrum had no fucking clue and as long as certainot Jun 2014 #164

Sorry but that is just BS, many of us were not buying into to BS from the right ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #169

there's an example right in front of us. friday night PBS political pundits repeating certainot Jun 2014 #269

You nailed it. The American subconscious tells all that hating Obama is natural. freshwest Jun 2014 #174

actually re reptilian, i think there's a behavioral reason for much of the irrationality certainot Jun 2014 #265

I'm fairly new here gwheezie Jun 2014 #156

When he does something good, of course MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #161

Not a good time to piss off the "old" folks. madfloridian Jun 2014 #165

Unfortunately Obama began the old vs younger crowd war a long time ago ... slipslidingaway Jun 2014 #182

For what it's worth, Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #183

k&r... spanone Jun 2014 #168

When he leads instead of follows. He is the weakest president since Gerald Ford. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #173

+1000. Obama has been way too accomodating to right wing ideas and his reaching out quinnox Jun 2014 #175

And we are left with a pittance instead of a pound. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #178

I praise (or criticize) policies, not people n/t eridani Jun 2014 #192

When he does something praiseworthy. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #196

I lulz'd. KG Jun 2014 #198

DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2014 #204

When he does something good/right/consistent with traditional democratic values and issues. vi5 Jun 2014 #205

It is never OK, we have to hold his feet to the fire at all times treestar Jun 2014 #210

Shit, by this time his feet should be black! randome Jun 2014 #217

You can say what you like in praise of the President here. bemildred Jun 2014 #211

He's the President 99% of us voted for. He deserves the benefit of a doubt. randome Jun 2014 #214

When he creates utopia for everybody. tabasco Jun 2014 #216

Plus a million to that. And it is happening here. freshwest Jun 2014 #369

A very revealing thread. madfloridian Jun 2014 #218

Some of it derives simply from the usual 'anonymous Internet' aspect. randome Jun 2014 #223

She never implyed that you were racist, that is not true at all. bravenak Jun 2014 #224

You have NEVER seen me post stuff like that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #230

Not all men! bravenak Jun 2014 #235

I'll let Teddy Roosevelt answer your question Martin Eden Jun 2014 #221

Thank you. This should be posted daily. 840high Jun 2014 #279

Great Quote Thanks! raindaddy Jun 2014 #297

It is impossible to speak about the President without praising him AngryAmish Jun 2014 #222

Okay. woo me with science Jun 2014 #298

Very true! Also all liberals agree! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #335

Puts on my Jack Benny pose whistler162 Jun 2014 #240

I have a lot of Jack Benny old time radio shows on my iPod. randome Jun 2014 #242

Under any circumstances you choose. MineralMan Jun 2014 #251

That's an easy one. Whenever he acts like a member of the Democratic Party instead of a member of Zorra Jun 2014 #254

Whenever you want to, LWolf Jun 2014 #258

Never. He's not a pet dog looking for a treat. He's a politician. rug Jun 2014 #271

The Shell Game colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #274

Under any instance you want. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #276

I dont mind at all if praise is given to the president for the things he has accomplished, and rhett o rick Jun 2014 #286

Unfortunately, this is not as much of a Democratic board as thought YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #289

You're not listening then Armstead Jun 2014 #295

"Never once, never once do you praise his successes." A bullshit exaggeration. corkhead Jun 2014 #293

You should change your name from corkhead to poophead with an attitude like that. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #303

When the President says, Enthusiast Jun 2014 #299

Apparently, it's never "okay" here at the New Green Libertarian Underground. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #306

President Obama has Best 4 Months JOB CREATION since BILL CLINTON Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #307

On the rare occasion that he does something a Democrat would be proud of...... bowens43 Jun 2014 #309

Bologna quakerboy Jun 2014 #310

When deserved just as always Fearless Jun 2014 #312

Who would have thought... albino65 Jun 2014 #314

I gotta agree with you on this. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #322

Huh? Iggo Jun 2014 #324

Apparently, those who want to attack him... liberalmuse Jun 2014 #327

Excellent post. Andy823 Jun 2014 #331

Well said Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #353

Great idea but will never happen Jake2413 Jun 2014 #339

hail to the chief barbtries Jun 2014 #340

I don't know how to loooooovvvvve himmmmm... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #341

Not through works, but by grace alone shall we be saved Dragonfli Jun 2014 #350

Evidently so. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #367

The entire site is now vanity threads, call-outs, misplaced BOG posts, and feminists posts Doctor_J Jun 2014 #370

True. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #371

"anyone not supporting Puckett is a GOP infiltrator and Eastasian spy who hates Elizabeth Warren!" MisterP Jun 2014 #389

This question is really silly. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #345

I've seen posters singled out and mocked because their posts were "too favorable" to Obama. MADem Jun 2014 #376

You're illustrating the point I made. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #380

No, you're deliberately misconstruing what I am saying to try to prove your "point." MADem Jun 2014 #381

Are you implying that there is never any rational basis for progressive criticism of Obama? Jim Lane Jun 2014 #382

I'm not "implying" anything. I am coming straight out and saying what I just said. MADem Jun 2014 #383

Do you see ANY fault at all from pro-Obama posters? Jim Lane Jun 2014 #384

I don't see "fault" in opinions. They're just points of view. MADem Jun 2014 #385

OK, we're no longer communicating usefully. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #390

Says the guy who calls arguments he doesn't like 'silly.' MADem Jun 2014 #391

It's best to just complain about everything all the time IronLionZion Jun 2014 #386

K&R. It's sad that your OP is necessary... but it is. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #392

Thanks Steven! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #393