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Major Nikon

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26. The bill originated in Rangels office

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:49 AM

Apr 2012

The original bill started out in the House, not the Senate. Baucus didn't get the bill until after it came out of Rangel's office and the House. Liz Fowler only spent 2 years at Wellpoint. She was never a lobbyist. She worked for Baucus both before and after her short tenure at Wellpoint. Those who were so sure that Liz Fowler was a health insurance industry plant were also sure she would go back to said industry to retrieve her "reward". She still works for the government. If she did so much for the heath insurance industry (who bitterly opposed the law), they certainly didn't return the favor.

The allegation that the law was "literally written" by insurance company lobbyists just doesn't pass the smell test.

If you have any evidence to the contrary and can name the lobbyists who wrote it, I'd be glad to look at it.

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