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pnwmom

(110,336 posts) Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:48 AM Jun 2014

SPU shooter, Aaron Ybarra, used a legally obtained shotgun and used to work [View all]

at a gun range.

Proving once again that responsible gun owners don't commit crimes . . . till they do.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/seattle-pacific-university-shooting-suspects-frien/ngFt6/

Capt. Chris Fowler of the Seattle Police Department confirmed Friday, “We can say Mr. Ybarra did legally obtain the shotgun several years earlier.”

KIRO 7 is working to find out where and when Ybarra got the weapon.

Records show Ybarra had a hunting and fishing license from 2001 until 2010.

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At the time Ybarra worked at the Kenmore Shooting Range. KIRO 7 reporter Amy Clancy has asked range staff if management there knew about his mental health issues and will update the story when additional information is available. A staff member there initially refused to elaborate.

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SPU shooter, Aaron Ybarra, used a legally obtained shotgun and used to work [View all] pnwmom Jun 2014 OP

so you would ban shotguns? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #1

we banned sawwed off shotguns... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #2

No we didn't michreject Jun 2014 #9

regardless....the point stands...it IS banned under a certain length. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #14

No it is not banned. michreject Jun 2014 #20

and that is what he owned and was facing jail time for! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #22

Ohh. I am so sorry VR.. but happy to see you shut up those hlthe2b Jun 2014 #25

Hardly. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #41

They are restricted michreject Jun 2014 #26

I could never understand the reason for sawed off shotguns. I hunted when I was young and AlinPA Jun 2014 #68

Short barreled shotguns are not intended for bird hunting. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #128

Nobody ever claims that about car owners, but I often hear it about gun owners. pnwmom Jun 2014 #4

he was able to Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #7

Anything with a high capacity clip. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #11

Whats high capacity? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #13

More semantics...more innocents die. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #15

If your bidness is prohibition, know what you are prohibiting. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #33

One doesn't need to know laundry_queen Jun 2014 #130

Please DO talk about prohibition. I encourage it... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #131

I'm Canadian laundry_queen Jun 2014 #132

Ten or more. And no we can't get rid of all the existing ones but we don't pnwmom Jun 2014 #16

We have no say in their offshore production. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2014 #18

As I said, the fewer, the better. If they can't legally import them pnwmom Jun 2014 #28

and a reinstated AWB would have prevented which of these? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #21

SPU would have been so much worse if he had used an assault weapon. pnwmom Jun 2014 #29

"much worse with assault weapons?" Think VT. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #32

The SPU situation would have been worse if Ybarra had used an assault weapon pnwmom Jun 2014 #44

Do you know the shotgun wasn't an assault weapon under the '94 laws? I don't Recursion Jun 2014 #49

Recursion is correct that AWBs generally include many shotguns and pistols. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #51

Whatever he used had to be reloaded. As far as I'm concerned, the fewer shots pnwmom Jun 2014 #69

Hardly. Lurker Deluxe Jun 2014 #50

I would rather no gun have the capacity to shoot off many bullets pnwmom Jun 2014 #70

he already could have purchased one Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #37

"Ten or more"? Jenoch Jun 2014 #75

pnwmom, the Sandy Hook rifles was compliant with the AWB that was in place during the Bush admin aikoaiko Jun 2014 #76

That's not what "assault weapon" means, and the weapon doesn't determine the magazine size Recursion Jun 2014 #48

We can start with that subset, since it was already banned before, pnwmom Jun 2014 #71

*shrug* OK Recursion Jun 2014 #73

Hey, I've got one of those! blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author AlinPA Jun 2014 #62

Did I say "sawed off"? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #64

Replied to the wrong post, sorry. AlinPA Jun 2014 #66

everyone is a responsible citizen until they break the law NightWatcher Jun 2014 #3

I think this case shows how much worse pnwmom Jun 2014 #5

sure, or a handgun with 15 round mags NightWatcher Jun 2014 #12

3 times on purpose? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #31

point it away from your face Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #42

Away from my face? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #46

I always hated the CS Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #63

Training exercise. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #65

Its an Official Prohibitionist Talking Cliche�. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #35

Hell yes they are Aerows Jun 2014 #101

We could repeal the 2nd and ban ALL guns Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #6

I think we could start by reinstating and strengthening the assault weapons ban. pnwmom Jun 2014 #8

yes, you can always dream Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #10

Let them go back to muskets like they had when the 2nd was written! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #17

And then you can go back to quill and ink, and a soap box on the corner. oneshooter Jun 2014 #24

I am not the one humping the Constitution.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54

So expecting the Bill of Rights to be upheld blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #56

Its not humping it if you think its a living document... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #57

No, that required an two amendments. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #60

Get that nasty ink off your fingers! Eewww. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #39

I am not the one that thinks the Constitution isn't living....that would be the Gungeoneers! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #55

Certainly the Constitution is "living". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #58

"the freedoms" VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #59

So Freedom of the Press blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #61

so when we have guns that vaporize people....we shouldn't regulate those? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #77

So much fail in one post. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #78

So much truth.....I give you truth and you call it fail because it insults the ammosexuals! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #79

so what did Blueridge say that Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #82

When all you have is a hammer.... blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #84

Please explain to me how common sense regulation is a hammer.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #87

A man. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #100

the ones the Democratic platform proposes...you have a problem with that? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102

So, which ideas are those. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #105

Which ideas....All of them on the Democratic Platform.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #112

ammosexual suits the situation quite well... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #86

Yes, I see you all made up a new word Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #90

No actually I.... didn't I borrowed it from Bill Maher! But if the shoe fits wear it! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #91

I know its's not just you Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #92

Nobody believes you stop all murder by common sense gun regulation....that old horse is long dead. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #94

So you admit Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #96

I admit nothing....I stand behind the Democratic Party platform on Gun control... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #97

What truth? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #107

and I think someone is irony deficient! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #80

And yet you have no counter to my arguments. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #81

I am not the one that needs "things" to settle arguments....I have my words. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #88

and you can not even answer his question Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #93

I don't answer bullshit questions that rely on bullshit premises....no one says VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #95

so what does that bullshit word ammosexual even mean? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #99

You know EXACTLY what it means.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #103

In other words, you got nothin'. (nt) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #106

In other words...it wasn't my term it was Bill Maher....I didn't need to say nothin' VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #109

so we agree open carry groups can be assholes Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #108

MY Side is the Democratic Party platform on Gun regulation....what "side" are you on? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #110

The same one with one Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #113

That's the platform my friend.....get used to it... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #115

Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #117

Oh really? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #123

yep, Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #124

It appears to mean people who don't have the ideas we like blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #104

No that is what YOU want it to mean....but then....you didn't coin the term did you? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #111

did you? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #114

I didn't coin it....I just agree with it! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #116

agree with a word Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #118

Oh I never said I didn't know the definition...I said I didn't create it! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #122

No I did not coin the term. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #119

ahahahahahahaha.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #120

Bill Maher blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #133

The Democratic platform on them is my stance.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #121

I am sure they will be regulated like all Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #83

Apparently not well enough....now we have restaurants having to do the regulating! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #89

"That man is not dead. It has never lived!" Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #129

Oh,. I'm sure lots of people would comply with that. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2014 #19

Not to mention blatantly illegal... Amed Jun 2014 #85

Lol, repealing the second amendment wouldn't make the right go away. X_Digger Jun 2014 #23

It would remove some legal barriers in the way if sensible gun control Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #27

Imagine if freedom of the press only included technology from the 18th century. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #34

Imagine if.. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #38

Imagine if blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #45

No, the right would go from being explicitly protected to implicitly via the ninth. X_Digger Jun 2014 #52

Official Prohibitionist Talking Cliche�: Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #36

I do! I do! Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #40

Great. I encourage you spreading it around! Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #43

Never happen. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #53

Never say never ;) Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #67

Proving once again that it's all about the person flvegan Jun 2014 #47

I want to know how someone is defined as mentally ill and unfit to own a gun. bluestateguy Jun 2014 #72

That particular devil is in the details. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #74

Shh, don't bring up "reality"-based problems. Something's gotta be done, don'cha'know! X_Digger Jun 2014 #98

Again...we need to keep unstable people from possessing guns.... Sancho Jun 2014 #125

I agree that it shouldn't be easier to legally use a gun than a car. pnwmom Jun 2014 #126

This has nothing to do with the 2nd...you can have your gun... Sancho Jun 2014 #127

The NRA would love to have guns regulated like cars hack89 Jun 2014 #134