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elias7

(4,229 posts)
45. I don't think you talk about it too much
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:48 AM
Jun 2014

My initial response to the slate article was that it didn't really convey a sense of how most women walk through life under the specter of harassment. I would imagine most people have experienced some comment, catcall, whistle, car honk at some point in their lives. I have experienced that myself a dozen or so times, but I didn't even remember those moments when I first responded, but rather once I started to reflect, which tells me that I never felt threatened by it (I've only experienced red and blue). But this is not the same a a constant haranguing that is not really reflected in this study.

I don't know how to change attitudes that are so deeply ingrained in a certain proportion of men as it is certainly about control, as you say. If it doesn't apply to them, they don't have to read the thread. It is a form of control masquerading as harassment to criticize the frequency of such posts, unless they criticize every single subgroup for its recurrent thematic posts.

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Good article intaglio Jun 2014 #1
Love Slate! Agschmid Jun 2014 #2
Great article ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #3
Thanks. MadrasT Jun 2014 #4
Well it clearly is! Agschmid Jun 2014 #5
.. MadrasT Jun 2014 #7
:thumbsup: BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #9
Great article. Squinch Jun 2014 #6
Ugh, the city was the worst. MadrasT Jun 2014 #8
I went to the 12th street gym... Agschmid Jun 2014 #15
And yet, there are those here who insist that entitlement doesn't exist. Squinch Jun 2014 #18
I had a similar experience, in the early '80s. I was smoking at my desk (in those days you could) raccoon Jun 2014 #24
I live in a small, rural town and I get it regularly, but it isn't as threatening and not vulgar. redqueen Jun 2014 #25
The "smile" always seems like Squinch Jun 2014 #31
Not that I've noticed. redqueen Jun 2014 #34
Because it is someplace where your income and success depends on being respected, and it's a Squinch Jun 2014 #36
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #10
No problem! Agschmid Jun 2014 #14
I would wager that almost 100 percent of women could tell you at least one harassment story Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #11
5% of men have someone flash their genitals at them? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #12
k and r niyad Jun 2014 #13
And it starts as soon as girls enter puberty -- by age 11 or 12. pnwmom Jun 2014 #16
Yep. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #26
Sexual harassment by peers our own age starts even earlier. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #30
It doesn't really define how often people are harassed, just if harassment ever happened. elias7 Jun 2014 #17
You could easily get a feel for the answer to that question by listening to the women Squinch Jun 2014 #19
It is kind of funny how many of these discussions go like this KitSileya Jun 2014 #22
Exactly. Or another response: Squinch Jun 2014 #23
I'll never forget the time in college when my boyfriend was visiting me in pnwmom Jun 2014 #28
I understand that, but that's why the study is weak elias7 Jun 2014 #37
So you need a study to tell you how often women get hassled. Got it. Squinch Jun 2014 #40
And you applaud this study that tells you even less? Got it. elias7 Jun 2014 #41
If you are truly curious, start by reading this thread. But I know, I know. You need a study. Squinch Jun 2014 #46
I don't get the hostility or condescension elias7 Jun 2014 #48
I don't get why you are presenting a brick wall. Squinch Jun 2014 #49
I am not insisting on a study, you are misunderstanding me elias7 Jun 2014 #50
I wonder if some men figure this out when they have daughters. pnwmom Jun 2014 #44
I agree: are the 18% men and 51% women harassed once/year or 12/times/day? zazen Jun 2014 #51
Too fucking often. winter is coming Jun 2014 #21
When I was a pre-teen I had to walk a mile or so every day -- and it happened every day. pnwmom Jun 2014 #27
This is what men need to know elias7 Jun 2014 #38
And men don't get that it's not perceived as flattering. pnwmom Jun 2014 #39
I don't know what they are thinking, intending or expecting elias7 Jun 2014 #42
We talk about it often, told we talk about it too much some say. Another thread an old man seabeyond Jun 2014 #43
I don't think you talk about it too much elias7 Jun 2014 #45
It is embarassing and humiliating. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #20
I remember in my 20s, walking down a street in New Haven magical thyme Jun 2014 #29
These must have been some terrifying experiences. Squinch Jun 2014 #32
I was pissed as hell, not scared, magical thyme Jun 2014 #33
It seems to work for you. Squinch Jun 2014 #35
I am a man who has suffered Vattel Jun 2014 #47
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