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dilby

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17. Uhm, ok I will bite.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 06:41 AM
Jun 2014

I don't believe in the New Testament but even if it were true it does not matter, God held his chosen people to a hire standard thus Jews had more laws than anyone else. Gentiles do not follow the Torah because it's not required of them unless they convert to Judaism, the end. The Torah is very specific on who the laws applied too, it's why Jews did not run around forcing their laws on Gentiles that lived in Israel.

Furthermore some of our laws are actually compromises, Jews were tribal during a time period when you killed your children for looking at you funny and no one questioned it. God gave man free will, thus we can follow him or not. Because of this he gave us laws where we felt like we were retaining our old Tribal ways but in reality we were following his new ways. There were certain things he allowed the Jews to keep like being able to stone women and children but it first had to be approved by the elders and if you were found wrong like in the example of a woman's virginity you were screwed. Bill is citing an instance where a man who marries a virgin can say she was not and have her stoned. The problem is Bill is not saying what the penalty was for falsely bringing forth these accusations. If you accused your new wife of not being a virgin when she arrives then you go before the Elders and they would decide if she was or not. If they find she was not she can be stoned, if they find she was then you got to pay pretty much everything you have to her family and you are never, I mean never allowed to divorce her. Divorce was legal so even if your wife did cheat on you it was better to go the route of divorce than to be broke, stuck with her forever and laughed at in the eyes of everyone in the village because you were not man enough to hold your wife. It's why Jews would rather go the route of divorce over stoning, it's why we go that route today and it's basically a God out smarted us again technique that the Torah is full of.

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He makes a good point. scruboak Jun 2014 #1
I wouldn't, if I were you. It's a good way to lose your family Warpy Jun 2014 #5
Uncertain world? What does that mean? So you are saying believing in made up shit..... Logical Jun 2014 #8
I've seen it be a great comfort to people in the ICU waiting room Warpy Jun 2014 #11
I guess I see your point. Must feel comforting to think god might help. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #13
these 'christians' like reed are always so heaven05 Jun 2014 #2
let's be straight, ralph reed is a seedy opportunist who worships mammon, and xtians are just his KG Jun 2014 #3
Yup. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #4
This is what I said about Reed on another thread. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #6
The guy replied in so many words that Maher was quoting from the old testament. Maher said B Calm Jun 2014 #7
Ralph Reed should be in prison. (Posted by Octafish, 3/19/14) Zorra Jun 2014 #9
“Why did Jesus need to come along to correct his dad?" rock Jun 2014 #10
"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity.. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #12
Another great Mark Twain quote. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #14
Bill is just Ignorant and most Christians are too Dumb to be able to argue with him. dilby Jun 2014 #15
But - isn't the Od Testament written (or dictated) by the same god of the avebury Jun 2014 #16
Uhm, ok I will bite. dilby Jun 2014 #17
I think that the concept that the Bible was divinely inspired avebury Jun 2014 #20
How many Jews were there? dilby Jun 2014 #23
The whole of the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament as well as a host of theological writings Skidmore Jun 2014 #25
Well, then, "Conservatives" can just KMA, because that is EXACTLY what a Christian should be WinkyDink Jun 2014 #19
You are totally correcty that the Gospels (as well as avebury Jun 2014 #22
Such is your belief. Skidmore Jun 2014 #26
To a Christian, the NT supercedes the OT, and Maher must know this. It's called "Casting the first WinkyDink Jun 2014 #18
Bill is trying the old the Torah is wrong so the New Testament is wrong too. dilby Jun 2014 #21
LOL B Calm Jun 2014 #24
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