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Robbins

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Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:16 AM Jun 2014

My concerns about Hillary and 2016 [View all]

Some want 2016 to basicly be a cornation for Hillary.I have serious concerns about her especilly with those things Obama can be legitimetly critized about

1:Corporate and wall street

Many believe Obama Is too corporate friendly and soft on Wall street abuses like what got us into the 2008 crisis. And do people really
think Hillary will be tougher on them than Obama? The Clintons are even more connected to wall Street than Obama.

The Clintons have never seen a free trade deal they didn't like.I belong to group who feel free trade deals are killing jobs In US.If you
opposse the TPP you want someone even more free trade? That's NAFTA on steroids and who signed nafta Into Law? Bill Clinton

As someone who opposes the keystone pipeline if It was up to Hillary why do I fear she would approve it

2:hawkish

let's put Iraq In past here.Hillary was one of most hawkish members of Obama's administration on Afghanstain.She supported more troops. If you are among those who want out of afghanstain do you really think she would be to Obama's left on Afghanstain.He's basicly comitted us to be there indefently and we should have beguin withdrawing after Bin laden was killed.

She supported strikes on Syria.

I am firm believer we need to stop getting involved In Middle east conflicts

3 ealing with republicans

many agree here that Obama Is too willing to work with republicans but have people forgotten the trianglution of the Clintons.Or
Hillary's comments critizing those who call Bi-partisan a dirty word.yeah that's what we need more bi-partisan crap that could
endanger things like SS,SSI,Medicaid,and medicare.Already in name of bi-partisan 8 billion have been cut from food stamps.There
are plenty of people out there that could use food stamps

4:Elections

The clintons never helped other Dems much. Even now a key super-pac aligned with them Is going to sit out 2014 and Bill Clinton
continues to only campagin for dems who supported hillary over obama In 2008

2014 may turn into a clobbing for Democrats and come January 2015 Obama will be fighting ivestigations ,Impeachment threats,and senate votes to repeal Obamacare.Not to mention republicans using budget to try to cut SS,Medicare,and medicaid.

We may need a democrat for 2016 who will lead charge against republicans In congress as well as the teapartyer who wins nomination. Can that trully be Hillary

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right right right...yeah like a broken record.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #1
So your going to dismiss everything Robbins Jun 2014 #9
I think they are all legitimate concerns but would not stop me voting for her if she gets the nom. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #29
You mean the 7% of them? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #40
She's a corporate, DINO hawk. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #17
Agreed MissDeeds Jun 2014 #26
according to you...but not to the 69% of other Democrats! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #41
How do the majority of democrats feel about the death penalty? Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #45
Yeah I'll play....How do they? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #47
Happy to oblige Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #53
So? What does that mean? And Yes I do....I thought she was better than Barack Obama VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56
She's definitely far to the right of PBO Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #57
proof please....and do not just use your pet issues...OVERALL VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #59
Do you deny that she is a corporatist hawk? Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #61
Yes I do... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #62
More so than I would like Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #63
WRONG.....you wish! Here is Hillary's record on Corporations VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #64
You're quick Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #65
Nope...you damn skippy I am fast....I am tired of this bullshit....so i keep it handy VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #66
Hmmmm Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #74
that was then....THIS is now....Hillary's respect has grown as SoS! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #75
You're setting yourself up for disappointment Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #78
OH I Am! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #89
Logic and reality Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #90
that would require ACTUAL evidence...of which you have none! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #91
Hehe Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #92
Hillary has a lot of name recognition, but Elizabeth Warren has much greater JDPriestly Jun 2014 #88
The fact that HRC has such high poll numbers sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #25
Says you....because you think there are people further left than you are... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #42
That makes no sense. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #58
If there is no one to YOUR left.....then you are IT! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #60
There are plenty of people to my left. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #70
People MORE Left than you? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #71
Well, if only 2/3 sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #84
its more than 2/3...its damn near 70%...AND this is in a race with 6 or 7 other candidates... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #87
The Clintons have gone all over this nation campaigning for democrats. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #2
In fact not 3 days before the Election I got to see PBO and Bill Clinton speak and appear together VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #3
As my senator I saw here all the time. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #4
I agree... Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #6
Yes they have been all over the state and country. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #7
Dems Robbins Jun 2014 #10
The Clintons were on the trail for Democrats in 2012 and the cycles before it. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #11
Its his wife....you expected him to campaign for her opponents? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #43
I call bullshit on that statement. MineralMan Jun 2014 #55
This.......... Beacool Jun 2014 #24
My concerns are about the 2014 election. MineralMan Jun 2014 #5
2014 Robbins Jun 2014 #12
You know, I doubt that very much. MineralMan Jun 2014 #13
And I do too....this guy thinks Bill should have campaigned for his wifes opponents in the primary! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #48
How do you know she will do nothing to help Democrats? hrmjustin Jun 2014 #15
All of it is not true. Beacool Jun 2014 #30
You expected him to campaign for her opponents? GEEBUS....would YOU campaign against YOUR wife? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #44
K&R! I share your concerns. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #8
Ditto to the K&R as well as the concerns. SoapBox Jun 2014 #18
Only problem I see with your concerns - they are not at all shared by the truedelphi Jun 2014 #14
The problem for her is that she really only appeals to. just. those. folks. NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #20
Yes, because the Right would vote for the darlings of the Left, Sanders and Warren. Beacool Jun 2014 #32
"darlings of the Left, Sanders and Warren"?? 'Darlings'? Really? NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #82
I think your post hits the nail squarely on the head. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #38
ARE you saying that is 69% of Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #49
69% of Democrats seem to disagree with you..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #46
Time will tell who is in the minority... NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #81
Don't need time...you ARE in the minority right now... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #99
Please do your math a little more carefully, especially with regards to the truedelphi Jun 2014 #98
So you are counting on Republicans? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #100
Have you considered taking a course in logic? truedelphi Jun 2014 #101
And how many Republican candidates are their right now? And did you consider that Clinton trounces VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102
we really need another right wing conservative democrat don't we? nt msongs Jun 2014 #16
Not hardly. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #19
and we won't get one! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #50
Crazy wisdom.... NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #86
The Clintons never helped other Dems much. SpankMe Jun 2014 #21
Exactly!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #33
This is pretty silly. Trust Buster Jun 2014 #22
Hilary Clinton is one of the main architects of the TPP & she attended a Bilderberg meeting in 2008, Welibs Jun 2014 #23
Really? Beacool Jun 2014 #35
Yeah, right. Another Margaret Thatcher? MineralMan Jun 2014 #51
Proof please! 69% of Democrats seem to disagree with you! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #52
Hillary is associated w/the shadowy, rightwing Cult in DC known as "THE FAMILY," "THE FELLOWSHIP," blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #27
She attended breakfast meetings as First Lady and as Senator, Beacool Jun 2014 #34
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Ask Rachel Maddow about that! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54
I have concerns about her, too MissDeeds Jun 2014 #28
proof please..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #68
Proof about what???? MissDeeds Jun 2014 #72
since 69% of ACTUAL Democrats support her as a REAL Democrat....perhaps YOUR definition is off! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #73
You need to chill the hell out MissDeeds Jun 2014 #76
My only concern now is...... wolfie001 Jun 2014 #31
Most of what you say are valid, but the fact is no one else who might run even comes close to the lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #36
My support for Hillary in 2016 depends on her support for Democrats in 2014 tularetom Jun 2014 #37
WTF do you think she is going to do....campaign for Republicans? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #69
We'll have to wait and see, won't we? tularetom Jun 2014 #80
If she is wanting a Democrat president whether she decides to run or not Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #77
As one who dislikes the knee jerk Obama sycophants in DU Trajan Jun 2014 #39
Sounds personal AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #67
My concerns are about the environment and so far my response is "no". glinda Jun 2014 #79
I see negative post about Hillary concerning Wall Street and have ask several Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #83
All true, but... Mike Nelson Jun 2014 #85
I'd prefer to see a progressive nominee but I'll offer one tiny bit of praise for Clinton. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #93
She won't run in 2016. She likes being a private citizen struggle4progress Jun 2014 #94
The most concerning thing about her, JoeyT Jun 2014 #95
She said in her ABC interview she is going to help in the Mid-terms. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #96
Truth be told tabbycat31 Jun 2014 #97
DLC 2.0 = "Compassionate Corporatism" HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #103
I never liked the way she attacked Obama sellitman Jun 2014 #104
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