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zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
9. Not a scam
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:39 PM
Apr 2012

Not in the classic sense. It stinks to high hell, and there's a good possibility that they ran afoul of the law somewhere. But what they were doing was basically negotiating a "loss leader". In most government contracting though, there is a restriction on this kind of "cost shifting". Without seeing all the pricing structure it's hard to figure it out. What we will probably hear though is that this practice will be terminated by the government, one way or another.

My company has negotiated deals with various providers in which we agree to funnel all of our business to them. In exchange, we get a pre-negotiated price. It isn't the lowest, but it's not the highest either. We get several benefits from it, one of them being priority as well as "guaranteed" service. One of them is with a car rental company. We are guaranteed a car when we arrive. What that means is that they'll give us any car they have to serve the reservation. And they'll basically "screw over" individual retail customers to give it to us (they'll give us a car they were holding for another reservation if they are running short). I've seen it in action. Went into Dallas near some big Cowboys game. The sign said "no cars available". I walked up and they first said that they didn't have any cars, I'd have to wait. Then they looked up my reservaton. She call's her manager over and he goes "oh, yeah, well, um, here, give him this one." She responds something about "but that's for, um, well, see, this guy, and look at the rate!". Yeah, I know, gotta do it though" was the response.

What is amazing in this situation is that the GOVERNMENT hasn't negotiated these deals. They gotta be a huge customer. So you'd think they'd at least negotiate some fairly "low" rates or something. Someone dropped the ball BAD.

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Not to worry... Fumesucker Apr 2012 #1
+1 on that.... anti-alec Apr 2012 #4
Um, why do you think this is becoming public? cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #5
It was in someone's interests to expose it? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #17
Seems as though this is indeed a direct result of federal oversight. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #19
I read the article as the expose was done by the industry trade magazine.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #21
Did you ProSense Apr 2012 #23
The Feds certainly did a bang up job of oversight in this case.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #24
Couldn't they "self regulate" properly? KansDem Apr 2012 #2
Ai-yi-yi-yi-yi! That's where I go... joeybee12 Apr 2012 #3
Wait, no. All Medicare fraud is committed by slackers getting bennies they don't deserve.... Scuba Apr 2012 #6
I find it interesting that most of these scams... Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #7
I have read elsewhere years ago that Florida is the leading state for Medicare fraud. avaistheone1 Apr 2012 #8
Not a scam zipplewrath Apr 2012 #9
There's a huge difference, though gratuitous Apr 2012 #14
"Kick backs" zipplewrath Apr 2012 #27
In the example yes - but the article also states cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #22
Correct amount zipplewrath Apr 2012 #26
Damn socialized medicine! Wait. What? AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #10
I'm in a large national private insurance group SCantiGOP Apr 2012 #11
Jail time: anyone??? lsewpershad Apr 2012 #12
I'm shocked. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #13
Finally LAB Work is the biggest scam out there lovuian Apr 2012 #15
so are pharmacies notadmblnd Apr 2012 #20
Our dr. office has quit Lab Corp....now I know why, perhaps. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #16
Sounds like extortion to me MagickMuffin Apr 2012 #18
That would explian quaker bill Apr 2012 #25
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