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flvegan

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62. I don't know about it being cruel, if one is very, very careful and the cat thrives.

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:15 PM

Jun 2014

It's cruel if one is clueless or uninformed, as it appears the folks in the OP are/were and the animal suffers.

We're still having a nutritional discussion. I'd be remiss if I didn't also suggest that the helicopter cat mom feeding a nutritionally sound, albeit expensive, vegan diet to a cat is probably doing more favors than the idiot slopping WalMart bargain catcanshit into a bowl because is has meat* in it.

*snouts, hooves and assholes.

Read again, we're talking nutrition. Lost on many people because they're clueless. Doesn't stop stupid from turning into judgmental, but still.

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'Vegan' kitten nearly dies [View all] Playinghardball Jun 2014 OP

Beyond stupid. Get a rabbit for heaven's sake. Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #1

Not only stupid, Stargazer09 Jun 2014 #4

I think you might be misinformed about this. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #155

Cats can be vegan. HERVEPA Jun 2014 #2

I think there's a supplement LiberalElite Jun 2014 #5

It is a legitimate and admirable choice for a human. Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #12

There is no truth to the rumor that vegecat = vegemite dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #19

I have a jar of Marmite LiberalElite Jun 2014 #165

Use a tiny amount! dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #184

There is an easy-to-find supplement Android3.14 Jun 2014 #154

Don't mind the Fukushima bits... Crash2Parties Jun 2014 #171

This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Jun 2014 #175

I don't think you should feel hypocritical. Dorian Gray Jun 2014 #196

Not buying it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #6

cats need supplements to be 'vegan' ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #9

I can't believe I'm reading this Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #10

I can't believe it, either. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #17

That is exactly why it is happening BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #111

Most commercial and relatively inexpensive LiberalElite Jun 2014 #166

Yes, commercial cat food is awful BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #185

We went grain free and our older cat immediately got healthier... ReverendDeuce Jun 2014 #200

While objecting to the term "owner", mind you.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #31

Agree Brainstormy Jun 2014 #36

Absolutely wrong: cats are obligate carnivores frazzled Jun 2014 #23

Yours is the most important post on this thread. Divernan Jun 2014 #162

^^ 2 great posts here hopemountain Jun 2014 #186

No, they can't. NuclearDem Jun 2014 #24

I find it funny that you dislike the term "owner".... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #28

yes. odd indeed. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #152

"Meow! Those fascists are giving me whole wheat and quinoa again!"* FSogol Jun 2014 #167

LOL! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #168

No, they run into problems with urinary pH and they get blockages or worse and they usually die. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #32

Ridiculous and irresponsible post. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #34

I agree. lady lib Jun 2014 #172

Or simply Flatpicker Jun 2014 #38

The main thing you miss when you go vegan with a dog.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #43

I don't miss those Marrah_G Jun 2014 #193

Vegan cat is animal cruelty. longship Jun 2014 #44

Actually, you don't have to feed them at all. Orrex Jun 2014 #46

Cats are obligate carnivores. They are unable to synthesize many nutrients.... moriah Jun 2014 #48

I hope you don't have a cat. n/t Skip Intro Jun 2014 #49

They're not vegan if they're getting a supplement made from animal products. pnwmom Jun 2014 #59

Cats can be vegan. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #60

Curious. flvegan Jun 2014 #75

Because humans are omnivores. MillennialDem Jun 2014 #78

And? flvegan Jun 2014 #88

I didn't say it was a great or perfect answer. I do understand humans can be MillennialDem Jun 2014 #92

designed by evolution to eat both meat and plants and it is not a very good one. But it is true.... AlbertCat Jun 2014 #119

I don't think it's the meat that is the problem. It is the junk food - french fries, pizza, chips, MillennialDem Jun 2014 #136

I'm currently on a diet to lose weight where I have to eat 8 ounces of protein at dinner. phylny Jun 2014 #148

Dangerous discipline? ET Awful Jun 2014 #158

Vegans are more health conscious in general. Studies that control for this are still quite limited. MillennialDem Jun 2014 #202

Dangerous discipline? AlbertCat Jun 2014 #205

You can leave the word "extreme" out. ET Awful Jun 2014 #206

vegan diet and labeling it as "dangerous" is foolish. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #209

I see. . . . ET Awful Jun 2014 #213

I see.... AlbertCat Jun 2014 #215

I'm well aware of the definitions involved ET Awful Jun 2014 #216

WELCOME TO DU! flvegan Jun 2014 #63

I've been giving this ridiculous post a wide berth. byronius Jun 2014 #176

Owners is now a bad term? nt Logical Jun 2014 #65

Owner implies that the animal is merely your property. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #122

Oh lordy, talk about silly season. tritsofme Jun 2014 #173

Dogs have owners customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #163

Cats are evil! Nt Logical Jun 2014 #180

that is why I like cats awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #181

No, they cannot. Please stop with this rubbish. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #126

Where did you go LOL? snooper2 Jun 2014 #128

Post #94 was hidden tammywammy Jun 2014 #133

That was a different poster, a little more extreme poster :) snooper2 Jun 2014 #137

doh! tammywammy Jun 2014 #138

Yep. Even humans need B12 and iron supplements Helen Borg Jun 2014 #150

I've never taken either in 25 years of eating Codeine Jun 2014 #211

That is like an evangelical christian believing that the rusty fender Jun 2014 #212

I've been known to SCREAM AT STUPID PEOPLE Warpy Jun 2014 #3

It's not a matter of being "pious" LiberalElite Jun 2014 #8

My rescued designer cats both preferred kibble Warpy Jun 2014 #14

Try keeping the 'hood's cats away when cleaning a deer. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #125

And that, I suspect, is how the little buggers were domesticated Warpy Jun 2014 #139

Yep. hunter Jun 2014 #157

That, and the guys are a creature of urban life... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #188

Your descriptive response... tallahasseedem Jun 2014 #159

They sneak right in. Children of the night! Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #189

It doesn't have to be factory farmed frazzled Jun 2014 #29

I was fine with the description of this food until....... WillowTree Jun 2014 #50

Some cats do eat grass. MH1 Jun 2014 #55

All the cats I ever had ate/eat grass. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #71

Cats eat grass but don't digest it. Often they hurl it up. moriah Jun 2014 #160

While I agree with you in principle quakerboy Jun 2014 #64

to feed or not to feed, that is the question passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #96

I've had kitties eat dairy products and plant products tabbycat31 Jun 2014 #124

I never met a cat that didn't like cheese. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #187

Our barn cats routinely drank saucers of milk NickB79 Jun 2014 #149

Yeah, and I bet they had loose stool often, too.... moriah Jun 2014 #161

Possibly; they were barn cats NickB79 Jun 2014 #190

Cats are so opinionated about their diets... ReverendDeuce Jun 2014 #201

Cats need meat to survive. (Most) humans don't. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #37

it would be trying not to be a hypocrite. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #61

I wouldn't even suggest rabbits for them. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #7

Maybe the cat could eat the rabbits. Orrex Jun 2014 #47

You are not my friend. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #116

Paul McCartney even admitted Freddie Jun 2014 #11

What stunningly stupid people. Ignorant of the basics of how a cat's metabolic system works. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #13

... undeterred Jun 2014 #15

I thought armadillos quakerboy Jun 2014 #67

We all eat bugs, on occasion. undeterred Jun 2014 #86

Oh God passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #98

! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #142

they are omnivores Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #110

Im glad to know Im not crazy quakerboy Jun 2014 #115

FYI: none of the vegans here are dumbasses. But thanks for the PSA anyhow. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #16

You might want to read through the thread before drawing conclusions. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #22

Cats can indeed be vegan. I know folks that have done it. flvegan Jun 2014 #18

they require proteins and amino acids ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #20

Did you read my post? flvegan Jun 2014 #54

yes, you said there's nothing in your mind ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #113

He said: DeSwiss Jun 2014 #143

cats are carnivores ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #191

Go take a class in nutrition. flvegan Jun 2014 #194

funny... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #195

I'll quote you flvegan Jun 2014 #210

I am aware of what cats are. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #197

when someone suggests ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #198

Nope, evolution made cats carnivores. longship Jun 2014 #58

I don't know about it being cruel, if one is very, very careful and the cat thrives. flvegan Jun 2014 #62

Vegan just is not nutrition to a cat. longship Jun 2014 #114

Even the cheap canned food... LTR Jun 2014 #170

So if we got you some fangs you would eat a prime rib with me! snooper2 Jun 2014 #129

Stupid owners. I'm vegan and I feed my cats MEAT. Triana Jun 2014 #21

then you're killing one animal to feed another shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #68

I'm rarely gobsmacked by posts here Union Scribe Jun 2014 #74

Giving meat = killing cows shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #79

Your presumption, like your pet advice, is wrong. Union Scribe Jun 2014 #80

Is it now? shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #82

You told someone it would be better to kill their pet Union Scribe Jun 2014 #89

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #94

Carcass is one of my top 5 favorite bands OriginalGeek Jun 2014 #95

Amazing ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #144

The Dalai Lama used to shoot hawks as a hobby Nevernose Jun 2014 #76

The local Aborginal people around here eat cats shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #85

Ferals, whether cat, dog, or rat Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #178

Wow. Raine1967 Jun 2014 #106

LOL, is this real life? Too funny. tritsofme Jun 2014 #177

Dumbass owners. NuclearDem Jun 2014 #25

Yikes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #26

damn Niceguy1 Jun 2014 #27

Hope Kitty was removed from that torture chamber of a home! Moonwalk Jun 2014 #30

me too Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #107

hard wired ideologues nearly starved a tiny kitten to death. how awful and roguevalley Jun 2014 #33

Feed the cat some god damned meat MrScorpio Jun 2014 #35

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #39

I know a vegan that does this to her Dog. dilby Jun 2014 #40

Dogs actually do just fine. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #41

Our dogs love lots of plant type things Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #179

We are vegetarians; our dog and cat JanMichael Jun 2014 #42

This lack of understanding about cats is also responsible....... WillowTree Jun 2014 #45

What a couple of idiot assed owners... ileus Jun 2014 #51

They should be charged with animal cruelty.... paleotn Jun 2014 #52

..... +10 840high Jun 2014 #53

then let the cat go out and kill a wildebeest then shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #73

Or just buy mice for the cat to munch on? Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #84

Reminds me of an article in National Geographic shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #91

No, doesn't need to be. But it's more natural than trying to feed em salad Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #103

Cats are known to live longer as "indoor cats" than outdoor cats passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #105

Do you grow, hunt, or gather all of your own food? Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #131

I don't even know where to start with this one. flvegan Jun 2014 #77

Cats are not able to be vegan. love_katz Jun 2014 #56

Mind instantly went to this. Revanchist Jun 2014 #57

Me too! Union Scribe Jun 2014 #72

LOL! Love Futurama! Matt Groening is twisted! nt icymist Jun 2014 #102

Mine went here: Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2014 #104

These people should never own a cat again.... hadrons Jun 2014 #66

I'm vegan but I feed my four kitties turkey twice a day, along with sweet potato and two DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #69

Then you're not a vegan shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #81

Smooches like cows Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #87

Um...what? flvegan Jun 2014 #97

Bare assertions are not an argument... shaayecanaan Jun 2014 #99

Word salad? Yum! flvegan Jun 2014 #101

Ever notice there's always 1 poster in a thread like this that MUST take the opposing view? Inkfreak Jun 2014 #118

Wrap your mind around the idea they aren't trolling.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #146

"Yeah!!!! Fuck cats!!!!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #145

years ago I worked with someone who very nearly killed her dog that way azurnoir Jun 2014 #70

Why not get a rabbit tclambert Jun 2014 #83

I once had two housemates who were vegetarians Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2014 #90

Just reiterating what others have said.... Sylvarose Jun 2014 #93

I read a similar story a few years ago, only it was a baby instead of a cat. Crunchy Frog Jun 2014 #100

Good grief passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #108

Potatoes, rice milk and pasta isn't even a balanced diet for a human. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #109

Idiots sakabatou Jun 2014 #112

My cat loved veggies.... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #117

Veggie Cat Food? Why Not All Cats Need Meat Javaman Jun 2014 #120

So he can has cheezburger? corkhead Jun 2014 #121

The owners of the cat being vegan had nothing to do with the cats situation. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #123

Now how many Vegans do you think are that stupid? upaloopa Jun 2014 #127

You must not have met the vegans I know Demeter Jun 2014 #132

Full of whom? upaloopa Jun 2014 #134

Nothing surprises me anymore Demeter Jun 2014 #130

Extra stupid pet owners Rider3 Jun 2014 #135

AGREED! They need things that only meat provides. Many humans live long lives without meat. Not so freshwest Jun 2014 #140

Do these idiots also expect their fish to fly, or breathe air? ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #141

Animal abuse--the person should be brought up on charges. nt MADem Jun 2014 #147

Children and babies have died from vegan diets as well. nt ecstatic Jun 2014 #151

They died from poorly-balanced diets Codeine Jun 2014 #169

Does this mean that cats are immoral by nature? Android3.14 Jun 2014 #153

My cats keep trying to get me to eat meat. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #156

dumbass humans. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #164

geez! heaven05 Jun 2014 #174

I regularly see our cats supplementing 4_TN_TITANS Jun 2014 #182

zoos imgbitepolitic Jun 2014 #183

What a ridiculous post. Orrex Jun 2014 #204

Yes, cats are obligate carnivores. i learned that from Kestrel who used to post here... truth2power Jun 2014 #192

Our two eat a grain free diet... ReverendDeuce Jun 2014 #199

Out of curiosity, what are you feeding them? sir pball Jun 2014 #203

Well... ReverendDeuce Jun 2014 #208

dry food... imgbitepolitic Jun 2014 #214

That the number of PETA idiots defending this practice greater than 1 SpartanDem Jun 2014 #207