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tabbycat31

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97. Truth be told

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:24 AM

Jun 2014

Obama did not help other Dems much election wise (I was running field for a congressional in a swing state in 2012 and OFA would not play nicely with us despite my counterpart becoming a good friend of mine)

While in some districts the president had coattails, their campaign didn't identify for downticket races and didn't coordinate efforts with them.

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My concerns about Hillary and 2016 [View all] Robbins Jun 2014 OP

right right right...yeah like a broken record.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #1

So your going to dismiss everything Robbins Jun 2014 #9

I think they are all legitimate concerns but would not stop me voting for her if she gets the nom. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #29

You mean the 7% of them? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #40

She's a corporate, DINO hawk. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #17

Agreed MissDeeds Jun 2014 #26

according to you...but not to the 69% of other Democrats! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #41

How do the majority of democrats feel about the death penalty? Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #45

Yeah I'll play....How do they? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #47

Happy to oblige Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #53

So? What does that mean? And Yes I do....I thought she was better than Barack Obama VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56

She's definitely far to the right of PBO Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #57

proof please....and do not just use your pet issues...OVERALL VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #59

Do you deny that she is a corporatist hawk? Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #61

Yes I do... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #62

More so than I would like Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #63

WRONG.....you wish! Here is Hillary's record on Corporations VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #64

You're quick Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #65

Nope...you damn skippy I am fast....I am tired of this bullshit....so i keep it handy VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #66

Hmmmm Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #74

that was then....THIS is now....Hillary's respect has grown as SoS! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #75

You're setting yourself up for disappointment Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #78

OH I Am! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #89

Logic and reality Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #90

that would require ACTUAL evidence...of which you have none! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #91

Hehe Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #92

Hillary has a lot of name recognition, but Elizabeth Warren has much greater JDPriestly Jun 2014 #88

The fact that HRC has such high poll numbers sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #25

Says you....because you think there are people further left than you are... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #42

That makes no sense. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #58

If there is no one to YOUR left.....then you are IT! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #60

There are plenty of people to my left. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #70

People MORE Left than you? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #71

Well, if only 2/3 sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #84

its more than 2/3...its damn near 70%...AND this is in a race with 6 or 7 other candidates... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #87

The Clintons have gone all over this nation campaigning for democrats. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #2

In fact not 3 days before the Election I got to see PBO and Bill Clinton speak and appear together VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #3

As my senator I saw here all the time. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #4

I agree... Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #6

Yes they have been all over the state and country. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #7

Dems Robbins Jun 2014 #10

The Clintons were on the trail for Democrats in 2012 and the cycles before it. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #11

Its his wife....you expected him to campaign for her opponents? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #43

I call bullshit on that statement. MineralMan Jun 2014 #55

This.......... Beacool Jun 2014 #24

My concerns are about the 2014 election. MineralMan Jun 2014 #5

2014 Robbins Jun 2014 #12

You know, I doubt that very much. MineralMan Jun 2014 #13

And I do too....this guy thinks Bill should have campaigned for his wifes opponents in the primary! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #48

How do you know she will do nothing to help Democrats? hrmjustin Jun 2014 #15

All of it is not true. Beacool Jun 2014 #30

You expected him to campaign for her opponents? GEEBUS....would YOU campaign against YOUR wife? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #44

K&R! I share your concerns. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #8

Ditto to the K&R as well as the concerns. SoapBox Jun 2014 #18

Only problem I see with your concerns - they are not at all shared by the truedelphi Jun 2014 #14

The problem for her is that she really only appeals to. just. those. folks. NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #20

Yes, because the Right would vote for the darlings of the Left, Sanders and Warren. Beacool Jun 2014 #32

"darlings of the Left, Sanders and Warren"?? 'Darlings'? Really? NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #82

I think your post hits the nail squarely on the head. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #38

ARE you saying that is 69% of Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #49

69% of Democrats seem to disagree with you..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #46

Time will tell who is in the minority... NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #81

Don't need time...you ARE in the minority right now... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #99

Please do your math a little more carefully, especially with regards to the truedelphi Jun 2014 #98

So you are counting on Republicans? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #100

Have you considered taking a course in logic? truedelphi Jun 2014 #101

And how many Republican candidates are their right now? And did you consider that Clinton trounces VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102

we really need another right wing conservative democrat don't we? nt msongs Jun 2014 #16

Not hardly. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #19

and we won't get one! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #50

Crazy wisdom.... NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #86

The Clintons never helped other Dems much. SpankMe Jun 2014 #21

Exactly!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #33

This is pretty silly. Trust Buster Jun 2014 #22

Hilary Clinton is one of the main architects of the TPP & she attended a Bilderberg meeting in 2008, Welibs Jun 2014 #23

Really? Beacool Jun 2014 #35

Yeah, right. Another Margaret Thatcher? MineralMan Jun 2014 #51

Proof please! 69% of Democrats seem to disagree with you! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #52

Hillary is associated w/the shadowy, rightwing Cult in DC known as "THE FAMILY," "THE FELLOWSHIP," blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #27

She attended breakfast meetings as First Lady and as Senator, Beacool Jun 2014 #34

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Ask Rachel Maddow about that! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54

I have concerns about her, too MissDeeds Jun 2014 #28

proof please..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #68

Proof about what???? MissDeeds Jun 2014 #72

since 69% of ACTUAL Democrats support her as a REAL Democrat....perhaps YOUR definition is off! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #73

You need to chill the hell out MissDeeds Jun 2014 #76

My only concern now is...... wolfie001 Jun 2014 #31

Most of what you say are valid, but the fact is no one else who might run even comes close to the lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #36

My support for Hillary in 2016 depends on her support for Democrats in 2014 tularetom Jun 2014 #37

WTF do you think she is going to do....campaign for Republicans? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #69

We'll have to wait and see, won't we? tularetom Jun 2014 #80

If she is wanting a Democrat president whether she decides to run or not Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #77

As one who dislikes the knee jerk Obama sycophants in DU Trajan Jun 2014 #39

Sounds personal AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #67

My concerns are about the environment and so far my response is "no". glinda Jun 2014 #79

I see negative post about Hillary concerning Wall Street and have ask several Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #83

All true, but... Mike Nelson Jun 2014 #85

I'd prefer to see a progressive nominee but I'll offer one tiny bit of praise for Clinton. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #93

She won't run in 2016. She likes being a private citizen struggle4progress Jun 2014 #94

The most concerning thing about her, JoeyT Jun 2014 #95

She said in her ABC interview she is going to help in the Mid-terms. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #96

Truth be told tabbycat31 Jun 2014 #97

DLC 2.0 = "Compassionate Corporatism" HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #103

I never liked the way she attacked Obama sellitman Jun 2014 #104