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MADem

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232. No there was NOT. YOU are missing MY point.

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #221)

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:42 AM

Jun 2014

She was a First Lady, who had gotten death threats, with a secret service retinue, running for the Senate. Carrying a shitload of DEBT.

The Secret Service had "requirements" so there was a type of residence she needed to live in. No McMansion with zero separation between houses, for example. She also needed to be close enough to transportation, near main roads, a host of little details that, if you've never been responsible for someone's security, you don't worry about.

They could have gotten rich as Roosevelts while in the governor's mansion and the WH, but they didn't. As for begrudging, I don't begrudge them for making a buck after they left the WH. Even at that, a lot of the money "they" make goes to the Foundation, which is involved in charitable endeavors.

Trump had "cash flow" issues--that's not the same at all and to try to pretend it is isn't acceptable. He OWNED assets--real estate, homes, etc. He had documents with his name on them. The Clintons didn't even have a house. They didn't have a car, or a house key. And they didn't qualify for the damn mortgage, even though they had "earning potential." No "Countrywide Chris" Dodd loans for them...

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Can you spell tone deaf? H-I-L-L-A-R-Y. Hillary Clinton: We Were 'Dead Broke' Upon Leaving WH [View all] cali Jun 2014 OP

Bitter much? MineralMan Jun 2014 #1

Nope, not at all bitter. Projecting much? cali Jun 2014 #4

thats low PatrynXX Jun 2014 #163

I thought you were referring to the personal attack on Cali. Never mind n/t sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #177

Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #219

Are you referring to cali when calling out bully? Or MM? rhett o rick Jun 2014 #298

MM and Cali both went ad hom, but MM did it first. Yet you give MM a +5 and call Cali a bully. merrily Jun 2014 #338

After the 2008 election ... butterfly77 Jun 2014 #316

Yes, and he agreed. merrily Jun 2014 #339

IOW, you don't know a fucking thing about what happened. aquart Jun 2014 #363

Care to address substance? And speaking of slimy innuendo, did you read your own post? merrily Jun 2014 #414

"It's top of the fold news." tiredtoo Jun 2014 #318

the perfect response azureblue Jun 2014 #345

The House in NY was 1.7 million...the house in DC was 5.4 million yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #402

She made the statements in 2014 krawhitham Jun 2014 #10

Unbelievable. 840high Jun 2014 #136

And th plight of the poor poor. No one's broker than the poor poor. merrily Jun 2014 #341

+1 Mineral Man treestar Jun 2014 #41

If she cant handle questions from Sawyer, hows she going to fare on Fox?? 7962 Jun 2014 #107

Do you seriously think she would do a fox interview? TiredOfNo Jun 2014 #129

Sorry, but she's being interviewed by Van Sustren & Brett Baeir on Fox. Where ya been? 7962 Jun 2014 #133

Yes she would. 840high Jun 2014 #137

She can handle them just fine. Beacool Jun 2014 #262

Just think if they had asked her what she reads! Fuddnik Jun 2014 #358

I admire you MM customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #115

She could have told her story with more poliltical sensitivity. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #122

Bitter? Hell Yeah!!! billhicks76 Jun 2014 #126

Do facts matter at all in this discussion? What does Cali's opinion have to do with the facts? sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #175

She looks like an idiot saying that! And you want to deny it? nt Logical Jun 2014 #207

This is not the time for criticism because it's not election time... Hissyspit Jun 2014 #210

+1 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #293

A list of approved discussion topics pinned to the top of each forum would help morningfog Jun 2014 #222

lulz : ) Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #367

... woo me with science Jun 2014 #225

Of course the H. Clinton-Sachs supporters want us to give her rhett o rick Jun 2014 #300

For many of us, 2014 has been decided. None of my senators are running. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #308

Excellent point thank you. EOM tiredtoo Jun 2014 #317

Right there with you MM Tommy2Tone Jun 2014 #336

Hear, hear! We have precincts to walk and phone banks to bank (?) genwah Jun 2014 #351

Yes, we do. Anything that distracts from that MineralMan Jun 2014 #353

Gracias, mi compadre. Let's bring the fight to them. I'm tired of this chickenshit. genwah Jun 2014 #394

Didn't she get a few million for "It Takes A Village"? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #2

Yes. Before leaving the WH. The first comment in this thread cali Jun 2014 #7

1996. NYT best seller list. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #19

That money went to charity. pnwmom Jun 2014 #101

A portion of it did. Whisp Jun 2014 #199

And the rest went to taxes. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #201

Let's be clear. They didn't keep a dime, and that is what that article says. nt MADem Jun 2014 #209

I think that is the law - it was income and they gave the entire after tax portion karynnj Jun 2014 #259

They had staggering legal bills. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #94

YES! THANK YOU! lolly Jun 2014 #322

All the profits from that book WENT TO CHARITY. You could have looked that up, you know. MADem Jun 2014 #100

they fact check about as well as Fox News Skittles Jun 2014 #111

It says 840K "of proceeds" went to charity. Didnt she get an 8 million advance to write it? 7962 Jun 2014 #132

Are you completely CONFUSED? Why are you mixing up her "Village" book with her MADem Jun 2014 #140

Well, shoot, if thats the case they darn sure shouldve had some money? 7962 Jun 2014 #155

They had enormous legal bills from the forty four million dollars worth of taxpayer cash used MADem Jun 2014 #164

Depends on the crowed you run with. zeemike Jun 2014 #169

When she bought the house she didn't have that money. MADem Jun 2014 #178

No job, broke, I know honey let's buy a house! A Simple Game Jun 2014 #334

She didn't keep any of the money from It takes a Village. Beacool Jun 2014 #266

Plagirism on It Takes A Village?: Whisp Jun 2014 #305

"Did not acknowledge ghostwriter Barbara Feinman" rock Jun 2014 #327

+1 krawhitham Jun 2014 #3

The GOP broke them with lawyer expenses. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #5

no, they weren't broke. In any case her comments were in defense cali Jun 2014 #8

so much anger. n/t progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #72

Don't look now, but your agenda is showing. Beacool Jun 2014 #269

...yet they were able to purchase not one, but TWO houses. Maedhros Jun 2014 #67

Mitt & Anne sold stock while he was a student elehhhhna Jun 2014 #84

LMFAO lawyers going broke over money going to ....lawyers. L0oniX Jun 2014 #366

Damn, I'd like to be the kind of "broke" where an Ivy education and plural houses aren't laughable. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #6

indeed. cali Jun 2014 #9

Not any more interesting than the dreck you're peddling LordGlenconner Jun 2014 #119

Hillary's own words are the dreck that's being peddled frylock Jun 2014 #303

I said about the same thing where a similar post showed up in Politics 2014 nt LiberalElite Jun 2014 #12

No kidding. I'm not envious. I just wish she was a little more tuned in so as not to say something Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #65

Most Congress people own property in their districts because they are required to pnwmom Jun 2014 #103

No, and I'm not going to do your homework for you. Read the damn thread. nt LeftyMom Jun 2014 #104

I was changing my post while you were cussing me out. pnwmom Jun 2014 #105

. st17011864200074656 Jun 2014 #197

You have residency by having a residence there. pnwmom Jun 2014 #198

And pray tell, where should she have lived while working in DC? Beacool Jun 2014 #270

Hillary had a job in DC when they left the White House? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #343

Are you for real????????? Beacool Jun 2014 #362

Of course I'm for real, so I screwed up, big deal that only means that A Simple Game Jun 2014 #395

Me too. And so would all the people who lost their jobs and their homes to Wall St. Corruption. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #187

This was after then-president Clinton RainDog Jun 2014 #11

Damn she sounds a lot like ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #13

yea... Ann Romney. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #14

they had lived out of the gov mansion in Arkansas so they did need a home bigtree Jun 2014 #15

When you get an 8 million dollar advance BEFORE leaving the WH cali Jun 2014 #16

show me the debt to income/asset ratio bigtree Jun 2014 #18

uh, no, honey, I'm not making up a thing: cali Jun 2014 #29

so what's the acceptable level of income for them? bigtree Jun 2014 #51

she's trying to identify with people who are struggling to get by cali Jun 2014 #64

she said that 'it's not easy' bigtree Jun 2014 #78

oh. so you are a mindreader, too? azureblue Jun 2014 #344

and snotty answers are your metier. You didn't even provide the information requested. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #68

and the question was about her current and recent past speaking fees. cali Jun 2014 #116

Not quite true customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #131

They bought the house BEFORE they left the WH. MADem Jun 2014 #182

Did I talk about the house customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #186

Where did I "assert there was a gap?" MADem Jun 2014 #188

You are correct customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #192

You do realize that no bank would give them a loan? It wasn't a matter of "clearing escrow." MADem Jun 2014 #203

OK, you're missing my point customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #221

No there was NOT. YOU are missing MY point. MADem Jun 2014 #232

Between her salary as a Senator and his salary as President davidpdx Jun 2014 #215

She did not start earning that salary as a Senator until AFTER he left the WH. MADem Jun 2014 #234

MADem, just Duval Jun 2014 #340

I guess so--I've never seen anything like it. MADem Jun 2014 #350

its hard to feel bad about their fees because if old bill had kept his pants on they roguevalley Jun 2014 #91

Excuse me?????? Beacool Jun 2014 #275

About half of that went to income, Social Security, and Medicare taxes, pnwmom Jun 2014 #375

No. It's that Bill Clinton led the reform to harm poor people RainDog Jun 2014 #17

sorry, I lived through and raised my family during the Clinton years bigtree Jun 2014 #22

it's not nonsense RainDog Jun 2014 #25

reality bigtree Jun 2014 #34

reality: that was the dot com boom RainDog Jun 2014 #45

The eitc increase and the child tax credit and the subtantial hike in the minumum wage Vattel Jun 2014 #58

four words bigtree Jun 2014 #59

Okay. I stand corrected. RainDog Jun 2014 #60

I think that was the decade we lost the textile industry in this country. nt eilen Jun 2014 #346

Here's a tidbit of facts that might make you pull your blinders off truedelphi Jun 2014 #32

you mean after he left office? what a joke bigtree Jun 2014 #40

Plus...all expenses paid to and from speeches, and for staffers needed, etc. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2014 #50

Ummm... that was after they were out of the White House. nt progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #73

Oh like asking people to get a job after being on welfare for a few years?? progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #70

Dependence is a cancer on society, they say. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #147

I have never experienced poverty RainDog Jun 2014 #153

If I remember correctly... ohheckyeah Jun 2014 #150

No, he didn't loan them the money, but he helped them get the loan. MADem Jun 2014 #176

It is just tone deaf, in the same way that the comments of many Republicans with money often are Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #231

+ 1,000 suffragette Jun 2014 #243

This........ Beacool Jun 2014 #274

This is all to counter the populism Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #20

Yeah, because Bill Clinton was born wealthy. Beacool Jun 2014 #277

No, because Hillary Clinton was born poor. ieoeja Jun 2014 #315

Why "defend" it loyalsister Jun 2014 #21

While definitely a tone deaf statement, it is true. tritsofme Jun 2014 #23

If you had $10 but owed $11., you'd be dead broke wyldwolf Jun 2014 #24

uh, no. no, you wouldn't be dead broke in the sense that regular people struggle with it. cali Jun 2014 #30

uh, sure you would wyldwolf Jun 2014 #38

I love breaking this to you, but then I am not a hypocrite or a fabulist: cali Jun 2014 #42

You're living in the past wyldwolf Jun 2014 #49

you do know that little saying about those who don't learn from history, right? cali Jun 2014 #110

His post at number 55 was hidden SIXTEEN MINUTES before you posted this--he cannot reply to you. MADem Jun 2014 #127

There is nothing wrong with responding to someone who gets locked out of a thread morningfog Jun 2014 #223

It depends on what you SAY. MADem Jun 2014 #230

So alert and let the jury decide. morningfog Jun 2014 #248

It seems to me that everyone in this thread is saying what they please. Demit Jun 2014 #146

Bullshit, indeed. Some perhaps need to experience 'dead broke' to understand Purveyor Jun 2014 #39

Good point customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #139

It's hilarious(ly sad) the lengths people will go to attack the Clintons. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #86

Sorry, not a statement of fact customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #148

Yes, it is a statement of fact. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #168

The Clintons had more than just fancy educations customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #174

Of course this thread would have existed. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #180

Nice job of swinging to the opposite extreme customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #183

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #284

Remember the outrage... uberblonde Jun 2014 #381

Good point. Beacool Jun 2014 #382

My point being... uberblonde Jun 2014 #383

Well, that we knew already. Beacool Jun 2014 #387

They were not looking to break our hearts. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #26

They were saddled with legal expenses. However, it didn't take long to replenish with speaking fees. RBInMaine Jun 2014 #27

No. And it is an issue. It's a top of the fold issue. cali Jun 2014 #33

The phrase is "above the fold." Demit Jun 2014 #149

By mentioning her supposed poverty customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #160

Yes, what she said about being broke was in response betsuni Jun 2014 #213

Her comments have been completely taken out of context by those looking for anything to bash her Metric System Jun 2014 #214

Yes--Republicans and allies have spun this masterfully lolly Jun 2014 #326

You are Trump and Clinton broke? HangOnKids Jun 2014 #217

Never had money and lost it or been in debt and I am not Trump or Clinton, so no betsuni Jun 2014 #239

More pile on of Clinton. It does not matter what she says Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #28

Coming from a staunch John Edwards fan like Cali, her OP is hysterical wyldwolf Jun 2014 #31

are you kidding? stop making shit up. I was the MOST anti- JE person on DU cali Jun 2014 #37

Bad news for you: wyldwolf Jun 2014 #47

you are a piece of work. cali Jun 2014 #48

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #55

that x100000 ^ nt progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #76

That x 10000000000000000 that the post got hidden HangOnKids Jun 2014 #124

Interesting that you liked that post that much. Scuba Jun 2014 #142

Gotta back cali up there BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #229

Well, poor Hillary has some experience ducking snipers...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #56

Wow.. taken directly from the FR talking point? classy. nt progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #79

No, taken directly from Hillary's lying mouth. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #123

Hillary's own words frylock Jun 2014 #181

It was HRC's fictional construction - not a FR talking point.... xocet Jun 2014 #352

I sometimes wonder what site I've wandered onto... progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #75

some of us here are actually progressive dems who don't like war mongerers. Hillary is one. cali Jun 2014 #117

How is she a war monger? Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #159

More recently, according to her, truebluegreen Jun 2014 #238

Snarky Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #246

How many times did the White House have to disavowal itself from her statements at State? ieoeja Jun 2014 #320

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about Special Envoy. Whisp Jun 2014 #324

What info? Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #384

I like being snarky. That said, the subject was Clinton. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #356

No. It was about Clinton being a hawk and Obama disagreeing Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #385

No. The discussion was about whether or not Clinton is a warmonger. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #398

Elitism is elitism Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #290

I ask myself that question every day. Beacool Jun 2014 #286

Yes, except in this case, she put her own foot in her own mouth. hughee99 Jun 2014 #252

They were millions in debt due to legal bills treestar Jun 2014 #35

It was avoidable customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #162

It could also have been avoided if Republicans had not tried to use it treestar Jun 2014 #184

You have to expect customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #190

Ken Starr spent tens of millions going after them. joshcryer Jun 2014 #355

The special prosecutor had investigated the Clintons for several years Beacool Jun 2014 #289

I'd sure like to see a breakdown customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #409

It's said that more money was spent on Clinton's year long lie Whisp Jun 2014 #413

Sometimes I miss the unrec button. liberalmuse Jun 2014 #36

You all have pretty much covered it, smile. oldandhappy Jun 2014 #43

More Clinton disingenuous bullshit tularetom Jun 2014 #44

Yes, and I'm guessing there was not a single person in that team of bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #61

That does not negate the fact that they were millions in debt Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #92

But it does negate the "it was hard" part. Maedhros Jun 2014 #309

The Koch boys are already making film on how 'dead broke' she and Bill Purveyor Jun 2014 #46

"Will speak at Goldman Sachs for food..and $200,000". Sad story. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #52

Well, at least your cynical remark got me to chuckle. truedelphi Jun 2014 #154

LOL! nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #206

For those who still care about actual facts.... uberblonde Jun 2014 #53

that has nothing to do with the tone deaf element cali Jun 2014 #63

Here's a fact. If I were to grant that she was indeed broke because of cost of legal representation Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #158

Sadly, there are too few of those in this pile. MADem Jun 2014 #237

I don't know if I see this OP as "claws out" or even something that would not be allowed karynnj Jun 2014 #276

Perception.... MADem Jun 2014 #292

If the article is correct, the Clintons NOT being reimbursed was part of the deal that there karynnj Jun 2014 #306

It was just an $8 million advance. Motown_Johnny Jun 2014 #54

She's doomed now. JoePhilly Jun 2014 #57

Good lord! Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #62

as I said: tone deaf. cali Jun 2014 #66

it's practically like skipping a couple meals waiting for the next welfare check to arrive.. frylock Jun 2014 #311

Ah thanks for reminding me why I left DU around the elections... progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #69

We don't hate Hillary customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #167

Yes, they DO hate the Clintons. Beacool Jun 2014 #283

Oh fer fuck sakes. You try and compare the Clintons to.... madinmaryland Jun 2014 #71

what??? where do I compare them to the Romneys? I DO NOT. cali Jun 2014 #83

BUT YOU SHOULD BE. What you posted is just not really relevant. madinmaryland Jun 2014 #89

That's what I was thinking betsuni Jun 2014 #179

"Tone deaf" doesn't begin to describe Hillary. When you have the Presidential pension .... Scuba Jun 2014 #74

I have no problem with the OP or the discussion of it Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #77

When I'm flat broke, I stop answering my phone and I stop opening mail because I have nothing Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #80

Holy Crap - I didn't get the memo! It's now time to start discrediting Hillary? Yes, I guess it's AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #81

... and 'borrowing' right wing talking points to do it with. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #82

weak sauce, wolf. you call all criticism of Hillary or Obama "right wing". transparent and cali Jun 2014 #87

the OP, post 56, post 45 - ALL right wing knocks wyldwolf Jun 2014 #90

Well, of course the reich wing is going to seize on it customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #170

your sticking up for Hillary doesn't match your screenname m-lekktor Jun 2014 #251

Yeah, you're right. Who do you think I should support? Rand? Jeb? Romney? Cruz? GEEEEZZZ... AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #361

Oh, boy ... It's going to be a long two years. 1000words Jun 2014 #85

+1 QuestForSense Jun 2014 #144

. boston bean Jun 2014 #88

Broke and no opportunities. Oh, wait. Broke and all the opportunities in the world. nt valerief Jun 2014 #93

This. That's why it's so incredibly tone deaf. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #95

The Clintons never had to worry about where their next meal was coming from. "Broke." HA !!! blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #118

An $8 million book advance plus her husband's and montly pension (plus expenses) dflprincess Jun 2014 #96

The book money went to charity. And they didn't own any real estate pnwmom Jun 2014 #109

Guess it's time to downsize. I'm guessing a 3 bedroom ranch in the burbs on a 1/4 acre would serve Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #113

Her NY home IS in the burbs. Do you have any idea what homes like that cost in Hillary's district? pnwmom Jun 2014 #120

No, I'm not terribly concerned. I'm positive the burbs have affordable homes for firefighters and Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #130

If they were "in debt" why would they give the book money to charity? tularetom Jun 2014 #135

Almost all Senators have homes in their local districts because they have to pnwmom Jun 2014 #138

Generally people who are "dead broke" dflprincess Jun 2014 #397

Can you spell distraction? blue neen Jun 2014 #97

She's sounding like Romney. Geez. Maybe we need a Democratic challenger. Kablooie Jun 2014 #98

It is entirely conceivable to me that with four years of Stanford (@ around $200K) pnwmom Jun 2014 #99

Entitled. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #125

So, when they made a six figure salary for 8 years, they had NO house payment? joeglow3 Jun 2014 #267

A big chunk of that salary went to taxes -- this was before the Bush tax cuts. pnwmom Jun 2014 #268

As a Tax CPA, I can assure you there taxes were not that high joeglow3 Jun 2014 #282

As a person who pays taxes, and can Google, I can assure you pnwmom Jun 2014 #288

Oh, so since they CHOSE to send their daughter to an expensive school joeglow3 Jun 2014 #310

Do you realize that they've set up a charitable foundation? pnwmom Jun 2014 #329

Are you going to praise them as much as we do every other charitable foundation here joeglow3 Jun 2014 #331

Bill Clinton spent most of his career making $35K a year as the governor of a small state. pnwmom Jun 2014 #333

how about perks? I bet a President gets some of those... Whisp Jun 2014 #337

Most people are making 35k today AND pay for a house with utilities joeglow3 Jun 2014 #354

Zero living expenses? Wrong. He had all the regular living expenses except housing pnwmom Jun 2014 #374

Because they are hypocrites. Beacool Jun 2014 #291

Well, she doesn't have a very good record for veracity tularetom Jun 2014 #102

I can't seem to confabulate dodging sniper fire... Whisp Jun 2014 #319

Dead broke, but, never mind, they had friends with benefits. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #106

Her political acumen is greatly overstated. She has never won a seriously contested race and is TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #393

Agree. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #399

An out-of-touch 1%'er, to the core. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #108

yes. precisely. but isn't the outrage of her devotees interesting? cali Jun 2014 #112

Yes. bvar22 Jun 2014 #280

+1 leftstreet Jun 2014 #143

Complete with a complaint about how some of the money went to taxes loyalsister Jun 2014 #220

She has very much been against a tax increase. See; Hillary v Obama debate and the subject of how Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #233

that WAS dumb DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #235

+10000 woo me with science Jun 2014 #227

Yep, it must've been tough Hillary ... CountAllVotes Jun 2014 #114

Well you can hardly expect her to live as we JoeyT Jun 2014 #121

Compared to all her friends, that is dead broke LittleBlue Jun 2014 #128

There's a difference between being broke and being poor. TeamPooka Jun 2014 #134

Not to the ears of poor Americans who have little frame of reference to make that distinction. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #141

The ones that support the policies of the rich because they think they are or will be someday? TeamPooka Jun 2014 #145

You're describing republicans. She won't be courting their votes. I'm talking about people like my Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #152

Your argument assumes she is worried about courting Democratic Party voters. She is already TeamPooka Jun 2014 #347

Yes loyalsister Jun 2014 #332

That does not explain away why she has recently taken money from Sachs Whisp Jun 2014 #151

Are you capable of separating facts from your opinion? uberblonde Jun 2014 #156

No. Missing meals would have been the practical manifestation of broke. Making a sacrifice Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #173

Broke does not equal poor. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2014 #157

I think Hillary should do us all a favor and forget about running for President. lumpy Jun 2014 #161

When you're a part of a royal couple that went to great lengths to truedelphi Jun 2014 #171

This. ^ AzDar Jun 2014 #196

I must reluctantly agree. navarth Jun 2014 #321

Bullshit! The Clintons didn't stab the middle class in the back AllTooEasy Jun 2014 #376

DURING the eight years of Clinton's reign, it is true that truedelphi Jun 2014 #412

Bullshit again! 2008's crisis was Clinton's fault AllTooEasy Jun 2014 #415

Please read up on the economic collapse. truedelphi Jun 2014 #416

I agree that the Banking Reform and Modernization Act was awful, but... AllTooEasy Jun 2014 #417

Gore did not even have the guts to fight for the vote count in Florida. truedelphi Jun 2014 #418

I disagree AllTooEasy Jul 2014 #419

just flat busted ell oh ell frylock Jun 2014 #165

You are only as broke as the resources you DON'T have. They had a lot of resources. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #166

Her timing is impeccable. joshcryer Jun 2014 #172

No, she has just given the GOP a present that will be opened again and again. djean111 Jun 2014 #189

The GOP can't run against making money. joshcryer Jun 2014 #191

The GOP will run against the hypocrisy. The GOP is quite offended when any Democrat djean111 Jun 2014 #194

They can't afford to. joshcryer Jun 2014 #195

You are using logic. They will not. djean111 Jun 2014 #200

The only thing the Democrat has to worry about is the left. joshcryer Jun 2014 #205

Ah. I see that the Left is already being set up as a whipping boy in some quarters. djean111 Jun 2014 #244

Newt on crossfire today sure did run with it. joshcryer Jun 2014 #369

I don't really think conflating not liking Hillary with being all newtie-minded is gonna work djean111 Jun 2014 #370

Breitbart is running with it. joshcryer Jun 2014 #371

Grayson is not being shoved down our throats as if the primaries were a foregone conclusion. djean111 Jun 2014 #388

Not from dems using right wing talking points. joshcryer Jun 2014 #389

What, exactly, is right wing about saying Hillary was tone deaf with the "broke" thing? djean111 Jun 2014 #390

You agree with Newt's view. joshcryer Jun 2014 #391

Wow. That is really a reach. And a spin. Good luck with that. djean111 Jun 2014 #403

It came about from her book. joshcryer Jun 2014 #404

Don't need your permission to bookmark, my dear. Condescension does not accomplish anything good, djean111 Jun 2014 #406

No, I appreciate the timing. joshcryer Jun 2014 #407

I pity those without political foresight. joshcryer Jun 2014 #408

Uh, why raise it at all? Union Scribe Jun 2014 #202

Raise it early, raise it often. joshcryer Jun 2014 #204

This is The Onion, yes? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #185

could be, but it's not. cali Jun 2014 #211

i remember MFM008 Jun 2014 #193

I seriously wonder what this place would have looked like.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #208

I don't think you could be more off the mark if you tried. cali Jun 2014 #212

Yes. You know, I'm generally not ever going to leave here to be critical of Mrs. Clinton. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #218

Very true, and very very well stated. Thank you. djean111 Jun 2014 #245

Thank you. I often get lost in the critique and fail to make the argument as to why Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #249

Yes, I've already seen several comments about Bill keeping his pants zipped. Beacool Jun 2014 #299

Yeah I agree davidpdx Jun 2014 #216

Yeah, pretty tone deaf. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #224

Well, at least she did not say they were "homeless" for the hour it took to move out of the WH. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #226

Broke for the rich is different than broke for the rest of us liberal N proud Jun 2014 #228

don't worry DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #236

I imagine people who are subsistence farmers in the sub-Sahara feel the same way about you and I... LanternWaste Jun 2014 #240

Calli...As a person living in poverty DearAbby Jun 2014 #241

I think Hillary could throw a naked baby onto a frozen lake and she would have defenders snooper2 Jun 2014 #242

I think Hillary could find the cure for cancer and she would have detractors. Beacool Jun 2014 #297

Maybe they were broke but were they ever in danger of being homeless? CrispyQ Jun 2014 #247

Gasp! The horror! raouldukelives Jun 2014 #250

That's my kind of broke, baby! Iggo Jun 2014 #253

Tone deaf is absolutely correct, but it likely was technically accurate - if only briefly karynnj Jun 2014 #254

“Let me just clarify that I fully appreciate how hard life is for so many Americans today,” PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #255

keep working really hard, all ya slackers out there. Whisp Jun 2014 #260

The lady doth clarify too much and too often. Whisp Jun 2014 #314

Only someone with incredible earnings power could go as broke as HRC dirtydickcheney Jun 2014 #256

From your link: Whisp Jun 2014 #264

I would call ~$10 million in debt "dead broke" MohRokTah Jun 2014 #257

Remember that time............ fredamae Jun 2014 #258

What do you call a $12M debt? Beacool Jun 2014 #261

you miss the point. entirely. she gaffed. the press is having a field day and so are the repubs cali Jun 2014 #263

She doesn't need your help. Beacool Jun 2014 #265

but Hillary Does need help. Whisp Jun 2014 #271

You have zero clue about Hillary. Beacool Jun 2014 #272

Oh yes I do. Hillary leaves clues around all over. Whisp Jun 2014 #273

Yes, she does. Iggo Jun 2014 #285

No, she doesn't need the help of a few disgruntled people on the internet Beacool Jun 2014 #294

Yes, she does. Iggo Jun 2014 #301

"She doesn't need you." Sort of sums up their thinking, doesn't it? n/t ieoeja Jun 2014 #325

So many on DU seem distraught that DURHAM D Jun 2014 #281

Yep, they seem to have preferred the alternative. Beacool Jun 2014 #295

Thank you, DURHAM D Duval Jun 2014 #342

She will probably admit some time in the future, Doctor_J Jun 2014 #278

Hillary Clinton is not only tone-deaf; she's also a serial offender RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #279

Bill's lovers are trash, but Bill is still cool: Whisp Jun 2014 #287

Well, she was just stating facts. Beacool Jun 2014 #296

How about the disastrous furlough of Willie Horton? Wasn't that also a fact? RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #302

LOL DURHAM D Jun 2014 #304

And in 2008 when talking about raising the cap for payroll taxes, she appeared to claim that JDPriestly Jun 2014 #307

It's like hearing someone say they know the plight of the homeless because they're in escrow. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #312

or because they are at the mall and not at home... Whisp Jun 2014 #313

I'm divided on this because I do think Hillary is out of touch. But spreading Republican talking DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #323

I really admire Hillary Clinton, I really do Harry Monroe Jun 2014 #328

Let's break this down azureblue Jun 2014 #330

Can we just say the Clinton's weren't flush? Tommy2Tone Jun 2014 #335

I do not support her. There are far better people out there. Genuine liberals. EEO Jun 2014 #348

This kind of reminds of this women I know eilen Jun 2014 #349

oh, no, cali....now you're on the Clinton frenemy list!!!! nt antigop Jun 2014 #357

Dead Broke? strange7 Jun 2014 #359

Hilarity's Thespian2 Jun 2014 #360

This rec's for you Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #364

She should have some tea and cookies with Ann ...they can both complain about "you people"... L0oniX Jun 2014 #365

Poor financial planning is her explanation? DeSwiss Jun 2014 #368

very interesting point. wonder if the RW talking heads will pick it up maggiesfarmer Jun 2014 #380

HILLARY should have thought of that. NOT OUR JOB to spin and twist whatever she says so it djean111 Jun 2014 #405

While Bill was Gov.;Hill was named partner @ law firm; made more $$$ than he did Divernan Jun 2014 #372

"We were broke" = "I'm trying to find a way to connect with the common citizen" nt NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #373

Broke? Like searching under sofa cushions for loose change 4 kids' milk money? Divernan Jun 2014 #377

Well probably not THAT kind of broke exactly. NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #410

Oh noes, a woman made some money in politics MyNameGoesHere Jun 2014 #378

that's what you took away from this? Sad. And guess what, I'm a feminist and that's the sole cali Jun 2014 #392

Hillary is no feminist, she Uses Feminism when it suits her. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #396

No feminist I know would stay with a serial philanderer. Divernan Jun 2014 #400

tangent: "tone deaf" is the wrong phrase maggiesfarmer Jun 2014 #379

Hillary has NEVER been dead broke Amaya Jun 2014 #386

Amen, sister! Divernan Jun 2014 #401

Ex-presidents get retirement pay of about $200,000 per year currently Crabby Appleton Jun 2014 #411