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In reply to the discussion: I just ordered Glenn Greenwald's book, No Place To Hide. [View all]ucrdem
(15,720 posts)42. Thanks MADem, just skimmed it and reached this horrifying conclusion:
Foreign surveillance agencies conduct foreign surveillance!
And if they get a warrant they can collect phone metadata or even tap your phone!
Who knew?
p.s. lovely illustrations courtesy PowerPoint 2.0
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ETA: it appears the NSA can only tap directly certain phones calls, i.e. calls made using internet technology and calls traveling over transatlantic fiber optic cables. This from anonymous NSA sources. Can't cite a page # because there aren't any but it's in Cryptome PDF 3, screen 7.
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I didn't. Harding's book was written as a "thriller". Greenwald's book has a purpose beyond
Luminous Animal
Jun 2014
#2
Have you seen this interview of Wiebe And Binney? They do confirm much of what Snowden contends.
Uncle Joe
Jun 2014
#16
Cap and trade is only a transition and Gore was sounding the alarm long before
Uncle Joe
Jun 2014
#25
The book has received excellent reviews. I intend to order it as I believe it is a very important
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#14
Thank you Uncle Joe. No Whistle Blower can receive a fair trial in this country. Manning's torture
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#21
Our government has been exposed as corrupt so often now that few have any faith in anything they
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#15
I remember Greenwald when he was just another writer on Daily Kos. But he stood out to Democrats
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#24
I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. I'm going with the Third Way infiltration of the Dem Party for
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#35
Dayum--that's news to me!! And boy oh boy, you are quite correct-- were they RIGHT!!!! nt
MADem
Jun 2014
#45