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Boxerfan

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15. Yes-

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:24 AM

Jun 2014

Yep-you nailed it...

Maybe one of the writers of SNL had met this person. I think this was after that sketch but it was 1996-97 that I worked there...

I didn't mention the name-too stereotypical to be true but there you are...

BTW-Even the shoes...Shoes tell a lot. And I could not get a clue even there...

Edit to add a sad detail...
This person was not playing a game. I had to replace 4 tires that had been slashed due to them being an outcast in the neighborhood they lived in. I do remember they remarked it for being who they were. I totally got it-that they were crossing genders was fairly obvious. But which direction was not.

But definitely not a game for the person & I should not have put it that way earlier. It was a long time ago & that detail was forgotten till after I had typed.

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This is important: steps to take if you cannot figure out a stranger's gender [View all] Recursion Jun 2014 OP

What brought this on? nt MADem Jun 2014 #1

Too long a story to relate (nt) Recursion Jun 2014 #2

If you can't explain it, why mention it? DetlefK Jun 2014 #4

I prefer to be pithy (nt) Recursion Jun 2014 #5

There is pithiness with distilled wisdom or pithy with vulgar obscenity & little wisdom. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #49

Apparently the OP is too pithed-off to share the circumstances. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #52

DUzy! nt MADem Jun 2014 #56

++ Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #57

Well played! nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #69

Because presumably... jberryhill Jun 2014 #12

Or, possibly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #38

not at all. you're to ignore that their gender is not blatant or knowable to you, and treat them as bettyellen Jun 2014 #39

The challenge in customer service is that we're strictly to address them as sir or ma'am, Mr. or Ms. DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #42

Well, bosses should be advised if it is a problem, and then you folllow their guidelines. bettyellen Jun 2014 #90

I think the idea is to interact with persons of ambiguous gender without needing to djean111 Jun 2014 #40

Good - get a job in which you will be fired unless you use "Mr.", "Ms.", "sir" or "ma'am" jberryhill Jun 2014 #63

I took "mind your own fucking business" to mean "you probably do not need to know djean111 Jun 2014 #64

I have no idea what the OP meant jberryhill Jun 2014 #66

Or, maybe you could get guidance from your manager if it's actually a problem? bettyellen Jun 2014 #89

I read there may be 50-60 genders.. it's a continuum Leme Jun 2014 #3

i guess it matters to me if Leme Jun 2014 #6

you've been on a roll PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #9

only then does it become relevant -- if you're looking for sexual compatibility unblock Jun 2014 #10

it might help to know Leme Jun 2014 #16

And once you know someone well enough Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #22

are you talking to me? if so.... Leme Jun 2014 #24

You posted in an open thread, on a public forum. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #26

yes, on a public topic... but I didn't ask a personal question...you did. o well Leme Jun 2014 #29

You set up the scenario Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #50

o well, you are who you are Leme Jun 2014 #51

And they are who they are - Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #53

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #54

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Jun 2014 #78

indeed, our society is extraordinarily obsessed with sexual identity and roles. unblock Jun 2014 #7

"jane just had a baby!" "wow, boy or girl?" Answer: Yes! FSogol Jun 2014 #11

nice one ;) unblock Jun 2014 #13

probably ? Leme Jun 2014 #17

Wonder what The Magistrate does in this situation? n/t JimDandy Jun 2014 #80

But I was really curios....Had a customer at an auto garage I never could tell.... Boxerfan Jun 2014 #8

Was that person's name Pat? (SNL reference) nt betsuni Jun 2014 #14

Yes- Boxerfan Jun 2014 #15

Thank you for adding that detail - Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #23

OR if you need to know for pronoun sake AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #18

no matter how polite, Leme Jun 2014 #28

Then my options are AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #31

i was not paying close attention Leme Jun 2014 #36

Ok, here's the thing justgamma Jun 2014 #19

What if I am curious? SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #20

If you're attracted why do you care his or her gender? Recursion Jun 2014 #21

Because my interest in a sexual relationship depends on their gender. You really think that's weird? thesquanderer Jun 2014 #61

I always liked this clip jberryhill Jun 2014 #65

priceless. staged, but priceless. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #82

No it is not! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #81

If you are attracted to them, Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #27

Yes, I would seriously say that. More or less. thesquanderer Jun 2014 #62

How about have a general conversation and get to know the person gollygee Jun 2014 #76

My neighbor contiually refers to my cat Samy as "she" snooper2 Jun 2014 #25

Everyone knows... TeeYiYi Jun 2014 #43

Sometimes it's important for business. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #30

And is asking "Mr. or Ms." that awful? Recursion Jun 2014 #32

If I'm writing a letter or email? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #33

It's 2014. I open with "Hi Pat:" Recursion Jun 2014 #34

Again, context still matters. Even in 2014. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #83

Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life edbermac Jun 2014 #35

Sometimes you want to address someone with something more respectful than "Hey You!" IronLionZion Jun 2014 #37

You say- "Hi, I'm XX!" and proceed accordingly. Let's not pretend it's an actual problem, LOL. bettyellen Jun 2014 #41

That's pretty much what I said above. You can get around it a lot more easily in personal DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #46

Unless your business is fucking. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #44

Is this an 'Orphan Black' reference? randome Jun 2014 #45

More embarrassing than anything. When u call someone a he when ErikJ Jun 2014 #47

Kind of makes it hard to be polite on the phone, though Ilsa Jun 2014 #48

I work in a call center, and I run into that all the time. Orrex Jun 2014 #55

"Hi, this is Zorra. To whom do I have the pleasure of speaking?" Zorra Jun 2014 #60

I'm sorry to say that I don't care for that line when I call customer service Orrex Jun 2014 #68

It works great for us. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #70

Again, I don't doubt that you manage it just fine, but... Orrex Jun 2014 #71

I think it's pleasant, respectful, and effective. No one has ever complained. Zorra Jun 2014 #72

:thumbsup: Orrex Jun 2014 #75

Strangely enough... Orrex Jun 2014 #91

"I'm Pat." LOL. (Or Jordan, Blake, etc) Ilsa Jun 2014 #84

Less than helpful Android3.14 Jun 2014 #58

Count the colors KamaAina Jun 2014 #59

I don't know about that.. butterfly77 Jun 2014 #67

There's the problem: you talked. Don't. randome Jun 2014 #73

Lol! butterfly77 Jun 2014 #74

maybe starbucks had the right idea with asking people for their name JI7 Jun 2014 #77

If there is a reason I need to know a stranger's gender, I'll ask. tridim Jun 2014 #79

I'm one of those unfortunate pipi_k Jun 2014 #86

ha, and if in doubt... see step 1. nilram Jun 2014 #85

Or, you could say, "Hey, SMILE!" WinkyDink Jun 2014 #87

I'm a grey haired white male. needledriver Jun 2014 #88