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(114,904 posts) Tue Jun 10, 2014, 03:34 PM Jun 2014

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Fine. I'll say it. I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. [View all]

and yeah, I'll gladly leave DU for the duration.

I think she's a despicable opportunist, dishonest, a big supporter of the military industrial complex and much more. Almost all of it counter to the democratic ideals I believe in. I couldn't vote for her and remain true to my beliefs. And yes, I do think the Supreme Court is important, but I cannot support Hillary.

End of story.

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Fine. I'll say it. I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. [View all] cali Jun 2014 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2014 #1

By "swarm" do you mean Democrats? LOL KittyWampus Jun 2014 #70

yes, only on the new DU are actual Democrats trolls or swarms... imagine this; dionysus Jun 2014 #406

good point! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #410

Me too Enthusiast Jun 2014 #165

I can vouch for your honesty and courage fadedrose Jun 2014 #377

Courage Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #413

she is very similar to Howard Dean which is why he is supporting her and you had no problem JI7 Jun 2014 #2

To the left of Dean at this point. joshcryer Jun 2014 #6

To the left of Obama doesn't take much - TBF Jun 2014 #92

nt merrily Jun 2014 #144

I am a big Dean fan, not sure they are that similar but even if they arent randys1 Jun 2014 #81

we have plenty of choices on the D side. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #98

Yes, but it is Hillary that they say will probably be the next president question everything Jun 2014 #117

I honestly do not think she will run. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #122

Based on what? She sure has been doing a good imitation of a wannabe nominee since 2007. merrily Jun 2014 #151

she has that air of Palin about her PatrynXX Jun 2014 #392

Her recent statement, about being broke when they left the Oval Office ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #394

And don't forget that Hillary's so-called "debt" was being fully financed by her buddies on Wall Street w/ their generous contributions to the Clinton's legal defense fund. . . InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #401

she is not a lot like Howard. He was my governor. I'm quite familiar with cali Jun 2014 #186

i still have my Dean Campaign sign. i was on vacation in Maine, it was after the primaries were dionysus Jun 2014 #352

She isnt Howard Dean. She doesnt support the 99%. She is in the pocket of Wall Street. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #265

she supports the 99 as much as Dean does , why do you think he is supporting her JI7 Jun 2014 #270

I was a proud Dean supporter.. OLDMADAM Jun 2014 #279

I was the only one in my caucus to support Wesley Clark that year PatrynXX Jun 2014 #391

Would it matter who the Republican nominee was? el_bryanto Jun 2014 #3

you think a teabagger would do better than Romney ? JI7 Jun 2014 #8

I think they would do better at fucking up the country, yes. el_bryanto Jun 2014 #17

What the GOP want for a president defacto7 Jun 2014 #280

Oh, so you'll take your $8 million and live in poverty? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #4

I love that quote, and I agree with the OP. I will focus on Congress if Hillary is the nominee. Now sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #86

And watch the country sinks and deteriorate beyond repair question everything Jun 2014 #132

Tierra's post consisted solely of a quote from John Quincy Adams, so your liberal bashing is merrily Jun 2014 #158

Than why post it, unless you are trying to send a message? (nt) question everything Jun 2014 #189

Why assume John Quincy Adams was a liberal? merrily Jun 2014 #194

Really? All that with one vote? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #197

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #216

What does this mean? question everything Jun 2014 #233

It means I agree with the post I'm responding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #236

Thanks. Always learn something new here (nt) question everything Jun 2014 #240

You inadvertently posted the problem Doctor_J Jun 2014 #341

Agreed workinclasszero Jun 2014 #343

So voting for anyone but Hillary makes those bad things happen? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #422

yes ... jimlup Jun 2014 #5

heh bigtree Jun 2014 #7

Heh heh heh.... lumpy Jun 2014 #62

+1 question everything Jun 2014 #139

Sorry you feel that way. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #9

If she is the nominee and you won't vote for her don't let the door hit your ass on the way out lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #10

On the way out of what? The country? She's already said she'd gladly leave DU "for the duration." merrily Jun 2014 #161

Then we will see her in about ten years AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #176

I'm guessing Cali knows that The duration" is a WW II term meaning "however long it takes." merrily Jun 2014 #399

The Democratic party lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #227

You're in a position to kick her out of the Democratic Party? merrily Jun 2014 #398

Obviously I am simply stating a perspective based on the OPs view that the OP will NOT vote for lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #400

Again, I doubt party leaders want someone out of the party simply because he or she is unable merrily Jun 2014 #404

LOL, temper temper! nt Logical Jun 2014 #364

no temper at all. The OP won't vote for the Democratic nominee should consider moving to another lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #367

This description doesn't bode well for any nominee. rug Jun 2014 #11

Vent, vent, to your heart's content. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #12

I doubt it. This is how many felt in 2000 and voted for Nader, giving us Bush question everything Jun 2014 #119

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ calimary Jun 2014 #128

Not sure why you are aiming this at me question everything Jun 2014 #137

Sorry - didn't mean to come on so strong. calimary Jun 2014 #275

Isnt that extortion? If you dont want a Republican in the WH, dont nominate H. Clinton-Sachs. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #224

I'm not totally convinced anybody else on our team has the clout to win it. I think she can win. calimary Jun 2014 #267

That's the thinking that's got us where we are today. At some point we must stand up rhett o rick Jun 2014 #269

Thank you! 840high Dec 2014 #415

I'm convinced that Clinton can't win. The right will show up to vote against her in droves .... Scuba Jun 2014 #310

"If I don't get Bernie, I'll defacto vote for the other party." Isn't that extortion? kjones Jun 2015 #417

I hope you aren't implying that I said that or believe that. Can you spell S T R A W M A N ? rhett o rick Jun 2015 #418

Implying? Hell, you came right out and called the similar extortion for Hilary supporters et al. kjones Jun 2015 #419

You implied that I said the following: ""If I don't get Bernie, I'll defacto vote for the other rhett o rick Jun 2015 #420

I thought Gore won that vote. merrily Jun 2014 #164

As long as we rely on the electoral system, Gore lost question everything Jun 2014 #187

Your post contradicts your subject line. merrily Jun 2014 #196

What a terrible system we have when we must rely on that. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #222

how very Democratic of you... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #13

Do you see a distinction between Democratic Principals and the Democratic Party? nt el_bryanto Jun 2014 #27

I dont think this forum is called Democratic Principles Underground is it? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #66

Not to put to fine a point on it but it's not called Democratic Party Underground either. nt el_bryanto Jun 2014 #68

uh if you read the TOS you will see that yes in fact it is! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #71

er, the TOS say something about supporting progressive principles Doctor_J Jun 2014 #76

It says something about supporting Democrats too clue one.its in the name...its not Progressive U. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #321

You missed the point. Doctor_J Jun 2014 #339

no you missed the very name of the site. Its DEMOCRATIC Underground VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #355

And many Democrats, both in and out of DC, don't like RTTB Doctor_J Jun 2014 #360

I think the "TOS reminder" is like Godwin's Law on DU. beerandjesus Jun 2014 #380

wishful thinking G_j Jun 2014 #307

Of course, you are reading LWolf Jun 2014 #397

Democratic principles are the principles of the Democratic party, by definition. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #126

So if the Democratic party declared Male Dominance as an official el_bryanto Jun 2014 #150

Yes, just as slavery was a Democratic principle 150 years ago. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #156

Yes it would shawn703 Jun 2014 #160

Then we have no principles and might as well disband the Party. Scuba Jun 2014 #311

I'm afraid you'll have to elaborate on that - it looks like a non-sequitur to me. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #362

If Icky Ricky Santorum declares himself a Democrat and we adopt his hateful policies as our own .... Scuba Jun 2014 #366

Agree, but not all Democrats adhere to Democratic Principles. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #421

I will side with Warren over you. Reasons why are obvious. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #14

God, but, that "left is actually right" stuff got old fast. merrily Jun 2014 #167

She is not a friend of the 99%. Why would you back her? She is Wall Street all the way. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #225

"Are you one that believes in trickle-down?" Excellent mind reader you are. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #309

Still has to be better than the repuke candidate. NightWatcher Jun 2014 #15

This person doesn't think there is a enough of a difference. iandhr Jun 2014 #18

Supreme Court, Supreme Court, Supreme Court NightWatcher Jun 2014 #25

+1 iandhr Jun 2014 #29

Amen, NightWatcher leftynyc Jun 2014 #42

A Democratic Senator will surely filibuster that nomination. OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #88

THIS PERSON IS WHY BUSH WON VERMONT Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #26

If you read my post I was talking about Florida. iandhr Jun 2014 #52

200,000+ registered dems in FL voted for bush frylock Jun 2014 #384

this person, that would be me, lives in Vermont cali Jun 2014 #190

Democratic apathy gave us the Tea Party in 2010. Beacool Jun 2014 #234

The bigger loss in 2010 was the gubernatorial and state legislative elections because StevieM Jun 2014 #282

Hi, Stevie!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #348

hey Bea! got something for you! dionysus Jun 2014 #354

Wow, that's very different. Beacool Jun 2014 #359

a full body bankie :) dionysus Jun 2014 #405

Thank you, sweets. Beacool Jun 2014 #407

anythin for you, Bea :D dionysus Jun 2014 #408

no, young and independant voter apathy gave us the tea party in 2010.. frylock Jun 2014 #385

People like you got Bush elected. iandhr Jun 2014 #16

That is true, but that won't happen again, most people know the realities lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #20

This person clearly doesn't iandhr Jun 2014 #24

"Most", and your characterization is right on. lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #38

+1 jeff47 Jun 2014 #30

Maybe the party should look at that right now so pipoman Jun 2014 #124

The point is this is utterly independent of the party. jeff47 Jun 2014 #169

The Supreme Court got Bush "elected." OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #94

And people like them are banking on people like you joeglow3 Jun 2014 #133

uh no, honey. I voted for Gore. Didn't care for Nader and I live in VERMONT cali Jun 2014 #193

Uh...no. progressoid Jun 2014 #229

Do you think that the purists care? Beacool Jun 2014 #232

Bullshit. The Supreme Court blocked the recount. Gore won the vote. morningfog Jun 2014 #245

no, people like the 200,000+ registered dems in FL that voted for bush.. frylock Jun 2014 #386

I won't either, but I've never made any secret of that.... mike_c Jun 2014 #19

Thanks for letting us know. We sort of figured that out MineralMan Jun 2014 #21

This TeamPooka Jun 2014 #78

Thanks! MineralMan Jun 2014 #80

+100000000000000000 crazylikafox Jun 2014 #97

Well said. Thanks (nt) question everything Jun 2014 #141

Well Said Gothmog Jun 2014 #168

I vote for Democrats also. But I refuse to vote for DINO's. I refuse to vote for Democrats that rhett o rick Jun 2014 #226

+1,000 Scuba Jun 2014 #313

Thanks for saying it so much better than I could!(nt) sunnystarr Jun 2014 #244

LOL! Unannounced. That's hilarious. morningfog Jun 2014 #246

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2014 #363

I'm goin' for the Democrats. saltpoint Jun 2014 #22

Ciao! FSogol Jun 2014 #23

Well aren't you special? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2014 #28

Cali Is the Anti-Hillary. MineralMan Jun 2014 #32

She certainly lives up to the requirements of the job. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2014 #34

There you go. MineralMan Jun 2014 #39

I will not either. Maedhros Jun 2014 #31

That will depend on the primary elections. MineralMan Jun 2014 #37

I want to let the DLC'ers know right now that if you stick with Clinton-Sachs, the apple of rhett o rick Jun 2014 #251

Nope. jeff47 Jun 2014 #40

Rand Paul thanks you for your support and hopes that you can convince other CAG Jun 2014 #33

If you dont want a Rand Paul victory, then dont nominate Clinton-Sachs. It's on you. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #253

The problem with stands like yours jeff47 Jun 2014 #35

+100 Duppers Jun 2014 #63

So you're saying that supporting more and more conservative Dems will move the party to the left???? Doctor_J Jun 2014 #101

No. Read the fucking post. jeff47 Jun 2014 #166

No kidding. Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #260

+100000 Phlem Jun 2014 #175

The oligarchs are doing the manipulating and most just go along. There are two parties both rhett o rick Jun 2014 #255

Yes, because it turns out you have to have vast money to run jeff47 Jun 2014 #332

Our only hope is to get a populist candidate and avoid the Wall Street hacks. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #335

No. our only hope is us. jeff47 Jun 2014 #338

better to have a corporatist to be handed down from on high frylock Jun 2014 #387

I know lots of Hillary supporters... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #36

How many of those were Democrats? If they voted for McCain over Obama knowing that McCain is lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #44

I had nothing but... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #69

It made a difference lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #116

That is the most supportive comment... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #123

Any DU members? Kingofalldems Jun 2014 #46

No DU members. yallerdawg Jun 2014 #79

I was a Hillary supporter in 2008, but I was in line to early vote for Obama. hamsterjill Jun 2014 #85

Me too! n/t yallerdawg Jun 2014 #103

I remember the fucking PUMAs. Iggo Jun 2014 #109

PUMAS! yallerdawg Jun 2014 #113

Yeah, right AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #207

And she killed Vince Foster too. JoePhilly Jun 2014 #41

That's a bit of a canard. Has cali ever suggested a belief in that right wing lie that el_bryanto Jun 2014 #43

And had a lesbian relationship with Janet Reno question everything Jun 2014 #146

You'd be welcomed with open arms over at Discussionist KamaAina Jun 2014 #45

I know I will not caucus for her. Skidmore Jun 2014 #47

I'm sorry but Hillary is better than ANYONE the GOP has to offer. She may be conservative OregonBlue Jun 2014 #48

Now that's what I call a wringing endorsement! RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #54

That's what primary elections are for. jeff47 Jun 2014 #60

I like Hillary. I think she is smart and tough and I will vote for her. OregonBlue Jun 2014 #219

Please reconsider!! RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #49

Easy to say now... and she's for sure not my first choice. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #50

I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. Because I'm a Democrat and I vote Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #51

Oh I wish there was someone like you to argue with you CreekDog Jun 2014 #53

Nice find question everything Jun 2014 #148

wow. Since when does changing one's mind on something like this, undermine credibility cali Jun 2014 #198

You never had any credibility Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #276

hate to break this to you but I have a lot of credibility with a lot of people here cali Jun 2014 #284

+1 cali, you have way more credibility than those who put party over principles. Scuba Jun 2014 #316

+1 More credibility than many.... beerandjesus Jun 2014 #383

"Hat tip to Creek Dog for killing this thread... " How sad that it's a goal to "kill threads" in rhett o rick Jun 2014 #318

Nice! LordGlenconner Jun 2014 #371

I wish more DUers had your honesty... SidDithers Jun 2014 #55

Yes, it's all about posting jeff47 Jun 2014 #64

Only with the help of party hacks including organization and mountains of money from TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #108

Nope, sorry. Those came later. jeff47 Jun 2014 #172

if not her consistency CreekDog Jun 2014 #91

Agree completely. Rex Jun 2014 #100

I just hope they all go away for a few months. joshcryer Jun 2014 #252

uh oh, stand by for the barage of loyalty oath threads! lol m-lekktor Jun 2014 #56

Quite frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn. lumpy Jun 2014 #57

LOL. ok. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #58

end of story meaning you won't reply to anyone, or end of story meaning snooper2 Jun 2014 #59

Punish her by electing more liberal Democrats across downticket races! nt IronLionZion Jun 2014 #61

I'm voting Hillary!! riseabove Jun 2014 #65

Never been a great sharp_stick Jun 2014 #67

Sorry, cali. We must part company if it comes to that Doctor_J Jun 2014 #72

Don't Want Hillary, Will Slam Her Hard During Primary Season KittyWampus Jun 2014 #73

Alrighty then. undeterred Jun 2014 #74

I won't vote for Hillary = I'd rather have a Republican President like Cruz, Paul or another Bush... TeamPooka Jun 2014 #75

I guess I make two. n/t Chan790 Jun 2014 #77

Then you will be asked to leave to DU when she is formally nominated bluestateguy Jun 2014 #82

no she won't Doctor_J Jun 2014 #90

Goodbye then. If she is the nominee I will proudly be casting my NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #83

What if a teaparty or independent like Rand Paul is elected, they steal the senate and randys1 Jun 2014 #84

California is safe not to vote for Hillary ErikJ Jun 2014 #87

I thought she lived in Vermont. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #111

Nope. Cali is short for California ErikJ Jun 2014 #120

Look at her profile. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #140

I was born in Cali, have roots there cali Jun 2014 #188

The OP is from Vermont, not CA. Look at her profile (nt) question everything Jun 2014 #152

For someone of such strident and strong opinions, you sure need a lot of validation CreekDog Jun 2014 #89

she believes in Universal Healthcare, is strong, understands other countries samsingh Jun 2014 #93

I never share my voting on DU, woo me with science Jun 2014 #95

+10000 MissDeeds Jun 2014 #121

Plus one a whole bunch. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #173

+1000 Very well said! Raksha Jun 2014 #402

That is your right. LuckyTheDog Jun 2014 #96

Filed under "Shit everybody who has been paying attention already knew". 11 Bravo Jun 2014 #99

Speak for yourself LordGlenconner Jun 2014 #375

She is not my choice mackerel Jun 2014 #102

Dear God, please let Hillary be the nominee! boston bean Jun 2014 #104

Amen.............. Beacool Jun 2014 #238

gonna see her on Monday! boston bean Jun 2014 #239

Good for you!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #242

i already have my tix. you needed to pay and register prior. boston bean Jun 2014 #248

Have fun. Beacool Jun 2014 #249

Get some pics please! joshcryer Jun 2014 #254

Yes you would love that. Conservatism uber alas. The hell with the poor and unemployed. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #259

I think of one thing DFW Jun 2014 #105

I agree with you on all counts, cali. Raksha Jun 2014 #106

Seriously? You see no difference between Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher? StevieM Jun 2014 #283

Lesser of which evil? Scott6113 Jun 2014 #107

Interesting OP/thread. H2O Man Jun 2014 #110

I believe you got that right..recommending your thoughtful post. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #200

Not a Hillary fanboy... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #112

The Dem Party is a centrist party Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #114

This should be its own OP. Well said! n/t Blaukraut Jun 2014 #191

Enjoy a Supreme Court filled with Thomases and Scalias question everything Jun 2014 #115

WELL, packman Jun 2014 #118

Cali, come on, just hold your nose . . . brush Jun 2014 #125

If she's the last democrat standing... Stellar Jun 2014 #127

She has a lot of good qualities as well. OKNancy Jun 2014 #129

Now you will be criticized for creating "A list". stevenleser Jun 2014 #221

If the Democratic Party can't do better than Hillary in 2016, bvar22 Jun 2014 #130

I have no idea what your personal circumstance is bluestateguy Jun 2014 #131

I didn't like Nader. I didn't vote for him. I never supported him in any way shape or form cali Jun 2014 #201

Fine bluestateguy Jun 2014 #212

I never voted for Nader but Phlem Jun 2014 #214

I think that stance is okay for a Vermonter... and for me, in California... deurbano Jun 2014 #134

The Dems could run a goat and I'd vote for it over anything GOP. n/r broadcaster75201 Jun 2014 #135

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2014 #136

When you read post after post from a person... liberalmuse Jun 2014 #138

I will vote for the Democrat if it's Hillary or not... Sancho Jun 2014 #142

So is every politician from dog catcher MFM008 Jun 2014 #143

I would prefer Warren over Clinton Shankapotomus Jun 2014 #145

Cali, I never thought for an instant you would vote for Hillary Clinton The Second Stone Jun 2014 #147

Warren, Schweitzer, Clinton in that order, but Democrat regardless mikekohr Jun 2014 #149

I'm sitting here, staring at my screen in utter disbelief. This cannot be happening! Metric System Jun 2014 #153

then get on someone else bus. bernie sanders IS running. mopinko Jun 2014 #154

Republicans thank you for your integrity. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #155

Didn't you recently brag how you were on food stamps and how great they were? RiffRandell Jun 2014 #157

I didn't fucking brag about it, honeypie. disgusting of you to make that claim. cali Jun 2014 #203

Sorry, sweetie, but YOU started the nonsense. Beacool Jun 2014 #241

oh I can take it, sweetums cali Jun 2014 #286

Going by the nonsense you posted, hyperbole must be your middle name. Beacool Jun 2014 #340

SNAP shaming -- a new low. nt grasswire Jun 2014 #223

Give me a break. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #277

I'm shocked we can do it Jun 2014 #159

the absolute worst Democrat is far better than the absolute best Republican... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #162

well said NRaleighLiberal NoMoreRepugs Jun 2014 #381

Just one more reason to vote for Hillary. Little Star Jun 2014 #163

We need to make sure we DON'T have to make a choice between that woman & the GOP Theocrat. Now is blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #170

I need more time to process this brand new information. Metric System Jun 2014 #171

I have made a vow Android3.14 Jun 2014 #174

Corporate Dem or a Republican, is that our choice? Phlem Jun 2014 #177

Nader-Bush...how soon you forget. glinda Jun 2014 #178

I live in Vermont. I don't have to settle the way dems in states like FL do. cali Jun 2014 #204

that's like saying "Iraq-9/11...how soon you forget" "Germany-Pearl Harbor...how soon you forget" MisterP Jun 2014 #274

Agree strange7 Jun 2014 #179

Like she won't perpetuate the current plutocracy....... dirtydickcheney Jun 2014 #180

I disagree with the OP. I have reservations about Hillary Clinton No Vested Interest Jun 2014 #181

Forgot I wrote this. Went off to putter in the garden (anyone ever grown celery root?) cali Jun 2014 #182

She makes me really nervous. peoli Jun 2014 #183

the supreme court is more important than your whinny childish tantrum. everyone fighting to improve leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #184

+10000 giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #205

Outstanding! blue neen Jun 2014 #235

2010, that says it all............ Beacool Jun 2014 #243

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2014 #365

I would not call the OP's passion for what she believes in a totodeinhere Jun 2014 #369

Right On! Thespian2 Jun 2014 #185

I voted for Hillary as my Senator, but didn't HockeyMom Jun 2014 #192

as i stated on the counter thread barbtries Jun 2014 #195

I will but would much rather have someone else n/t doc03 Jun 2014 #199

Same. And if this is the way the party is going LittleBlue Jun 2014 #202

But Cali Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #206

oh yes, I forgot to take that into consideration cali Jun 2014 #210

Ok, but help me out here. When she bowed down to George Bush and violated her duty to rhett o rick Jun 2014 #257

The Hillary feeding frenzy AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #208

I have a hunch you aint seen nothing yet. In 2007 we had hope for change, now we only rhett o rick Jun 2014 #258

I have a hunch AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #261

I'm glad you have that luxury, Cali, sincerely steve2470 Jun 2014 #209

I don't know what I'd do if I lived in FL- but then again, no offense, living there is cali Jun 2014 #211

We really can do so much better! If only.... NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #213

And you'll be one of the ones I bitch about if we deal with yet another Republican in the WH. moriah Jun 2014 #215

Moriah, I live in Vermont (as you know). My vote will make no difference to the outcome. cali Jun 2014 #217

So because Arkansas has a snowball's chance of going blue even if Hillary'd gotten the nod... moriah Jun 2014 #218

I think you are jumping the gun. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #220

I'll alert the media. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2014 #228

Ask me if I give a flying f*ck? Beacool Jun 2014 #230

If you want the support of the left, dont nominate Wall Street's baby, H. Clinton-Sachs. It's up to rhett o rick Jun 2014 #264

The majority of self identified progressives support Hillary. Beacool Jun 2014 #266

No you will dance in the street as Wall Street-Clinton wins. You dont give a crap about the poor or rhett o rick Jun 2014 #268

Oh, the drama and the hyperbole.............. Beacool Jun 2014 #281

fine. i'll say it. you betcha i will vote for hillary or any democrat. i want supreme court. seabeyond Jun 2014 #231

That worked out so well for us in 2000 that you would risk a repeat? Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #237

"Quelle surprise!" Rowdyboy Jun 2014 #247

Who cares. She'll win without you. Pisces Jun 2014 #250

Of course she would or so would Warren. But this forum is about giving totodeinhere Jun 2014 #370

No one I know has ask THIS question... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #256

I would write in. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #262

Thanks for helping to elect Republicans. zappaman Jun 2014 #278

The same could be said of those who vote in lock step... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #294

That's BS. 840high Dec 2014 #416

I live in a safe blue state now, so I'm with ya d_b Jun 2014 #263

Ralph, is that you buddy? Zambero Jun 2014 #271

89 "liberals" who prefer a Republican like Ted Cruz to Hillary Clinton BainsBane Jun 2014 #272

baloney, codswallop, shrill rhetoric. And I live in Vermont? Wanna guess how VT will go? cali Jun 2014 #285

You are here encouraging others to refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee BainsBane Jun 2014 #290

No, I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything. I have no interest in doing that. cali Jun 2014 #291

Jury voted 4 to 3 to leave it JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #298

They tried to censor that comment???? Beacool Jun 2014 #342

No the alerter felt that BB JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #346

Me neither. Beacool Jun 2014 #350

I'll vote for Hillary, without any complaint bhikkhu Jun 2014 #273

Might as well vote republican. bobGandolf Jun 2014 #287

In Vermont? Really? Nope. Wrong. cali Jun 2014 #288

That makes you as much my political enemy as any other Republican MohRokTah Jun 2014 #289

I am not a republican. If you believe that, go to admin and tell them I should be booted cali Jun 2014 #297

Refusing to vote for a Democratic nominee makes you identical to a Republican MohRokTah Jun 2014 #305

Only if one is under some sort of a delusion. cali Jun 2014 #315

I will always consider you nothing more than just another Republican MohRokTah Jun 2014 #320

Conservatives are my political enemies Doctor_J Jun 2014 #345

All purists on the LEft accomplish are moving the party further to the right. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #347

Ummm...sure. See, we are playing 12-D chess, while you're playing checkers, and Doctor_J Jun 2014 #349

Please. joshcryer Jun 2014 #292

Naw Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #295

I only ask for a few months. joshcryer Jun 2014 #296

Reading is fundamental. I said in the OP cali Jun 2014 #299

Good. joshcryer Jun 2014 #301

Lol. You have inspired me, my dear. cali Jun 2014 #303

Please do. joshcryer Jun 2014 #308

I never promised to stfu. those are your little words. cali Jun 2014 #312

"I'll gladly leave DU for the duration." joshcryer Jun 2014 #314

love to break this to you: leaving for the duration is not synonymous with STFU. duh. cali Jun 2014 #317

Have a blow out. joshcryer Jun 2014 #322

Since we are asking, would you and others like you refrain from ad hominem attacks and ridicule rhett o rick Jun 2014 #319

I will voraciously attack Clinton. joshcryer Jun 2014 #324

Highly ironic comment Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #331

So is that a "no" you wont be discussing Clinton's stands on issues? And I am surprised that you rhett o rick Jun 2014 #333

Yeah, that's fine Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #334

Ad hominem attacks and ridicule????????? Beacool Jun 2014 #351

And you prove my point. I asked if the Clinton supporters would be willing to discuss issues. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #361

I agree with your description, but will vote for her anyway eridani Jun 2014 #293

I'm more interested Jeneral2885 Jun 2014 #300

An itsy bitsy teeny weeny group will join you BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #302

so instead of more negative Hillary posts, will we start seeing pro-candidate posts? Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #304

I notice that the Clinton-Sachs supporters never provide positive arguments about her rhett o rick Jun 2014 #323

I'm certainly not a Clinton supporter Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #325

double kick+r nationalize the fed Jun 2014 #306

Starting w/ Timothy Geitner JonLP24 Jun 2014 #326

If you don't vote for the Democratic nominee baldguy Jun 2014 #327

I fail to see how she differs significantly from President Obama on policy issues Freddie Stubbs Jun 2014 #328

Yes Freddie and that's the point. Vote for Clinton-Sachs and 8 more years rhett o rick Jun 2014 #336

Someone recd this for "honesty and courage" NO... Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #329

because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush. remember? greenman3610 Jun 2014 #330

Not voting for Hillary is a half vote for Bush lame54 Jun 2014 #337

courts do matter Demsrule86 Jun 2014 #344

Hmm... risk going over the cliff with a republican president or whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #353

Well! You've certainly taught ME a lesson... brooklynite Jun 2014 #356

Freerepublic salutes you OP workinclasszero Jun 2014 #357

I can understand how you feel. Xyzse Jun 2014 #358

I sympathize with you. But if she gets the nomination and her opponent totodeinhere Jun 2014 #368

I voted for Obama for one reason in the 2008 Primary dirtydickcheney Jun 2014 #372

Then I'm holding you personally responsible for either making sure a better candidate is nominated, Zorra Jun 2014 #373

That's ridiculous. The OP's comment is not going to be responsible for totodeinhere Jun 2014 #376

It was a comment really meant for the general population of Democrats who are Zorra Jun 2014 #382

OK, when you wrote "I'm holding you personally responsible" I assumed you were directly totodeinhere Jun 2014 #389

Yeh, I know that is how it appears, not trying to deceive anyone, just Zorra Jun 2014 #393

I don't trust the Clintons or ANY of their paid hacks. nt. Any other Dem please. nt clarice Jun 2014 #374

Fine. That is your right and your decision. BlueMTexpat Jun 2014 #378

So if we have a president named Cruz, or Paul or Perry, you'll accept partial responsibility? Zen Democrat Jun 2014 #379

I'm no fan of Hillary... MoonchildCA Jun 2014 #388

well I won't leave DU. PatrynXX Jun 2014 #390

I'm not far from where you are stupidicus Jun 2014 #395

Cue horrified gasping, choking, and over the top hysteria here. LWolf Jun 2014 #396

krecc Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #403

This is entertaining, if nothing else. AAO Jun 2014 #409

Oh no !!! Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #411

K&R Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #412

Well, thanks for letting us know. MineralMan Nov 2014 #414