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In reply to the discussion: A History of Liberal White Racism [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)"My point was that as demographics shift the country will get more and more liberal. With the way conservatives have alienated minorities, lgbt, and women, we are accumulating more voters everyday."
I could not agree more.
"The rest was that this place does not have a strong presence of many of the groups that make up the presidents strongest supporters, youths, minorities, who strongly support him. That is why it seems like there is such a lack of support since in realty most of the party as a whole supports him."
Here's the thing: A lot of the older people here are yellowdog Democrats. That means that they have voted for no one else but Democrats for their entire lives. Many of us have voted for Democrats in every election for 30, 40, 50 years or more. Most of we older people have been politically aware and active all that time, and have seen a lot of shit go down. We don't generally trust politicians of any stripe, but we always vote for Democrats because we understand that even the worst Democrat is better than the best republican. We all voted for Obama twice. If he could run and ran against a republican again, we would vote for him again. But we are not thrilled with him. He's much better than any republican would be. We are not in love with personalities. We are in love with the good things they do when they do them. Obama has done some good things. Yay. He's also done some questionable things. Boo. But we don't love him beyond question, and don't believe that he can never make a mistake, ever. We criticize him, legitimately, when he does republican type shit. That's healthy in a democracy. It's good. The last thing we in this country is a bunch of dumbass sheep of stupid blindly accepting everything any leader says and does without question.
The point is, we may not adore Obama like so many do. We'll criticize him mercilessly if we think he fucked up. But when crunch time comes, and he's faced with serious shit from republicans, we will be there, just like we have for every Democrat for the past 30, 40, 50 years.
And I said that in our country, the people trying to take our rights are mostly old, white men, who lean conservative.
I dunno. It appeared to me you just painted all older white men as the problem, and appeared to be specifically targeting older white male liberals specifically a few times. That's what got people a bunch of people all pissed off at you. If a whole bunch of people here get pissed off at you for something, my unsolicited advice is to try to figure out why.
"In response to my apology she posted her thread about me and now i get many angry messages calling me a racist and an ageist."
You've been here less than a year and a half. Madfloridian has been a very respected member of this community for 12 years. I assure you, if she took offense at what you posted, and a whole bunch of other long time members took offense at what you posted, then you definitely came off way wrong to a lot of people.
Thank you for responding to my post, and I'm happy to know that you don't believe that every white liberal Democratic male who criticizes Obama is a racist.
Best wishes to you.