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Uncle Joe

(65,214 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:43 PM Jun 2014

I totally agree with Al Gore's assessment of the Snowden/NSA issue. [View all]

From Purveyor's O.P. in the Latest Breaking News Forum.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=822631

Former Vice President Al Gore said that while NSA leaker Edward Snowden broke the law, his transgressions revealed far worse violations of the U.S. constitution than any he committed.

“He clearly violated the law,” Gore said Tuesday at Tennessee’s Southland Technology + Southern Culture Conference when asked whether Snowden was a traitor or a hero. “But what he revealed in the course of violating important laws included violations of the United States Constitution that were way more serious than the crimes that he committed, and so in the course of violating important laws, he also provided an important service.”

Gore, whose comments were reported by the tech site PandoDaily that was a co-sponsor of the conference, said he would “push more away from the traitor side.” His views sharply differ from those of Secretary of State John Kerry, who called Snowden a “coward” and a “traitor” in late May in an interview with MSNBC.

The former vice president didn’t hold back about his feelings on the National Security Agency’s surveillance practices. “This is a threat to democracy, to the heart of democracy,” Gore said, fearing that people would self-censor under the threat of surveillance.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/al-gore-edward-snowden-important-service-107652.html?hp=r2



I believe a total surveillance state is as cancer to democracy, and if you combine that with the Citizens United decision, a militarized police force, for profit prisons and a wall between the U.S. and Mexico this will surely take us down a dark path to an oligarch, corporate supremacist, authoritarian form of government.

I also believe the Internet to which Al Gore championed is under threat precisely because it does greatly magnify the average American's voice, this comes via the NSA's overreaching and the attacks against Net Neutrality.

Having said all that, I haven't seen any evidence as of yet that D.U. outside of maybe an isolated poster that anyone has tried to throw Al Gore under the bus, regarding his stance on the Snowden/NSA issue published today.

Considering that this is an election year and November is getting closer, I believe we should redouble our efforts to put personality aside and focus on the issues pro and con, we need to stay united, if we're going to take the House and increase our Senate lead before Thanksgiving.

Peace to you all.



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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #1
K&R nt riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #2
'A Theat to the heart of democracy'! Those are strong words from VP Gore, legitimate president of sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #3
I couldn't agree more, sabrina. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #5
And nothing will be done about this one either. Amonester Jun 2014 #17
I believe the American People are waking up to the money domination game, that's Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #19
Although I agree with all that, I remain a big skeptic. Amonester Jun 2014 #20
The Republican Party is going to do some serious reassessing of their own, if they Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #22
All that matters is that Dem voters pressure their party now that we KNOW more of how it all sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #24
You're absolutely right. It's time to go out and "educate" the 85% of Dems who... Amonester Jun 2014 #25
Well, most people I know who post on the web are the very people who actually ARE very active sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #27
Yes, but 85% of Dems who "don't like" the GOP at all, but perhaps don't know much more... Amonester Jun 2014 #30
I'm not sure it is that many any more. People are becoming more engaged in politics than ever before sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #31
I agree that more and more Liberals do get involved in awareness, then activism. Amonester Jun 2014 #34
That's a good post, sabrina. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #26
Exactly Uncle Joe. There is a talking point often used to denigrate people who are not marching in sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #28
Precisely, sabrina it has put the fear of God in to them, I believe that's what compelled Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #29
Jimmy Carter: "We no longer have a functioning democracy." woo me with science Jun 2014 #35
I agree also Autumn Jun 2014 #4
Thank you, Autumn. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #6
There have been very few things I disagreed with Gore on over the years Samantha Jun 2014 #7
Thank you, Sam. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #9
I'm sure he knows a lot more about the way things are than he is free to talk about. And sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #11
I was thinking the other day if it is now acceptable for previous vice presidents to speak out Samantha Jun 2014 #12
It's probably okay for Cheney, he is part of the cabal who appear to be running things. But for Gore sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #13
K&R JEB Jun 2014 #8
It is refreshing seeing it written out. There would have been no 9/11 in a Gore presidency. Rex Jun 2014 #10
There is a thread by WillyT with a video interview of two NSA whistle-blowers Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #14
Snowden smallcat88 Jun 2014 #15
History proves that Snowden is correct about this. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #16
Kicker! Segami Jun 2014 #18
Kicked and recommended. bananas Jun 2014 #21
Thank you, bananas. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #23
K&r grasswire Jun 2014 #32
K&R nenagh Jun 2014 #33
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