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sabrina 1

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89. We've never had such a conversation, you are obviously confusing me with someone else.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jun 2014

I asked before for you to provide me with examples of what you attributed to me, you didn't, I let it pass. Now you are attributing a conversation we supposedly have had, to me, so I'm going to ask you to please link to something that even vaguely resembles what you have written and attributed to me.

Maybe WE, you and I, are not fighting the same battle, I know the battle I want to fight, and I know who I am with in that battle. Forgive me if you are not interested, that's your right. And mine is to continue to join forces with those who are willing to do all they can to WIN so that this country is a place we can be proud of rather than having to excuse it, for its racism, for its inequality and its foreign wars that slaughter and oppress people who don't 'look like us' so they are 'fair game'.

Speaking of racism AND sexism, our entire Foreign Policy has been described, as the British Empire's was, as entirely racist. There was no bigger racist than Winston Churchill eg.

And no one who claims to care about racism could possibly support those policies.

I look forward to you linking to where I called you a 'corporatist authoritarian lackey because I voice that I am far more concerned with the racism/sexism that I face/see on a daily basis, than a yet to pass trade agreement that everyone who is honest will admit that they have no idea what's in it'.

That is very specific and contains words and phrases and direct personal attack which I never use. It seems to me you are TRYING HARD to invent enmity that so far, I have never felt towards you, not that it couldn't happen, but it would have to be based on some legitimate cause other than political disagreement.

Regarding the Trade Agreement, we DO know some of what's in it, thanks to leaks from whistle blowers. We know what it plans for OUR environment, eg. ALL OF OUR environment. I imagine that is something that affects all Americans and their children.

But we can walk and chew gum at the same time, at least I can. I can be concerned about secret trade agreements that threaten our environment, jobs and give power to foreign corporations over our laws. AND our Racist, brutal foreign policies at the same time, while also caring about the elderly's earned SS payments, etc.

But again, I am fascinated by this conversation you claim we had and would definitely like to see it.

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I think you are misunderstanding. When those who actually ARE guilty are the ones being vilified, it sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #77
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #78
First, I do see how offensive it is to ask that racism not be pointed out. It should be and so sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #79
Really ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #80
No, I haven't. Do they say 'stop talking about racism'? I can't imagine a post like that sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #81
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #84
Okay, then we agree. There are good and bad people everywhere. . sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #85
But are we fighting the same battle? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #88
We've never had such a conversation, you are obviously confusing me with someone else. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #90
Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #91
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