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22. the IWR didn't give Bush any authority or even the power to do what he ultimately did
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:26 AM
Jun 2014

It was certainly a symbolic vote - I'll grant you that, but it wouldn't have stopped Bush from invading. Besides, if Congress really didn't want to wage war in Iraq, they could have pulled funding. That's where you look for true-anti-Iraq-war legislators; look at their votes on the bills funding the conflict - most of them in separate supplementals.

The IWR criticisms are clever political patter, but the fact remains that most Democrats voted for the thing in a last-ditch attempt to steer Bush back to the UN and to put the conflict under the direction of the UN Security Council. It was a vain and ass-covering move for some in the Senate, but it was a vote made after more restrictive amendments failed. Good for those Senators who opposed it, but they knew that their votes were going to be in the minority and they knew those votes were also in vain.

Bush should be held completely responsible for pushing us into war. From his phony 1441 presentation to his phony briefings which exaggerated the threat from Iraq, to the phony information that his administration hawked in secret briefings with Congress. I don't see the value in allowing Bush to hide behind a congressional resolution that sought to stifle his manufactured mandate to invade and occupy Iraq.

Congress is the lever. The hold the purse strings, but in the absence of a move by Congress to cut off funds, the president has the ultimate power under the Constitution for committing forces. If Bush was allowed to ultimately disregard Congress's mandate with impunity then what good is there in holding Congress accountable when the president ignores the law? Did the president even read the resolution?

Nothing in there says drop the U.N. and invade. It says the opposite. And he stepped around them.

The resolution was designed to get Saddam to let inspectors back in by backing the 1441 U.N. resolution with the threat of force. Inspectors were let back in and pulled when Bush rushed forward. If Bush had given the inspectors more time perhaps they would have taken the question of WMDs off of the table.

That was the effect of the resolution. Allowing the inspectors to re-enter Iraq and proceed with verification. We could guess, but they would verify. Bush pushed ahead of Congress in his invasion. He cut the inspectors off with his rush to invade. No Democrat advocated that, save Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.

Why did Congress trust the president? What guarantee do we have that any elected official will follow the Law?

When Congress passes a resolution that mandates seeking swift action by the U.N. security council before proceeding, and proscribes working with the international community until it is determined that 'reliance on diplomatic of peaceful means alone" would not force Saddam's hand, that is the law. The president took an oath promising to follow the law.

Thus, as the resolution states:

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.


Didn't the president unlawfully disregard these provisions? Don't these provisions represent the restraint that I maintain is implied in the resolution. Isn't this actually a case of the president pushing past Congress, the American people, and the international community in his race to war?

These are the foremost provisions of the resolution that I believe involves the president and his word.

1. Defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.

According to who? According to what evidence presented. Doesn't the administration have an obligation to present the threat in a accurate and truthful manner? Did they? Weren't they obligated to under this resolution?

They had a chance to modify the war in separate funding bills. Voting against them is as close to post-war opposition as any of the others in the Senate can manage without total obstinance. This is in the wake of evidence of no WMD's; hind views; and evidence mounting of the president inflating the threat.

2. Enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

U.N. Res.1441 was negotiated with bogus evidence presented by Powell. But the public still doesn't know the nature or the amount of evidence presented. Some were convinced some weren't. You can see in John Kerry's floor statement that he didn't abide risking the possibility that Iraq might restart a nuclear program, remote-controlled bombers, whatever. That was on the basis of bogus info.

But remember, there were no inspectors inside Iraq to verify anything. One of legislators like Clinton's intentions in the resolution was to pressure Iraq with the U.N. resolution backed up by the threat of force. It worked until Bush pushed ahead and drove them out again. Those who would hold the president accountable are indebted to Hans Blix for his presence there and his candor.

Still some will insist on holding those who sought to reign him in responsible for the sins of Bush. It makes no sense, politically or on the facts at hand, to claim that Clinton advocated or acquiesced to unilateral, preemptive invasion and occupation in their support for the IWR.

The authority to commit forces is not inherent in the IWR. That authority is contained in the War Powers Act which decades of presidents have used to commit forces for 60 days without congressional approval. I believe that Congress would be loath to remove forces after they were committed.

The only input that Congress had to the president's rush to war was a 'no' vote, which I don't believe would have restrained the president, and to attempt to place restrictions on the president's behavior through a resolution.

Principled opposition to Bush's war is to be respected and encouraged. But I reject the argument that those same principles were betrayed in just voting for the IWR.

Some Democrats saw the resolution as a way to restrain Bush and send him back to the U.N. They were desperate to stifle Bush's argument for immediate invasion and sought to mandate a return to the international table by limiting Bush's authority in the resolution.

Whether or not the resolution had passed, Bush was intent on invading and occupying Iraq. He had gone around for days proclaiming that 1441 gave him the authority to do whatever he wanted.

If the resolution had failed, the president I think, would have committed forces anyway as decades of presidents had also put troops in the field for 60 days without congressional approval. In that event, I believe, the Congress would be loath to retreat and remove forces. Then, by law a resolution would have been drawn up, likely resembling the one we have now; urging Bush back to the U.N. and calling for internationalization of the conflict.

That is how determined presidents get us into war. Check and checkmate. It's democracy-lite. It stinks, but it is difficult, if not impossible, to restrain a president from committing forces because of the loopholed prerogative inherent in the War Powers Act, which is referenced in the IWR. I believe that the only way to effectively direct him is through some sort of resolution passed by Congress. But, if he ignores that resolution, as he ultimately did, they must act to cut off funding.

It is possible that a unified front of opposition to the resolution could have turned the public against the plan to invade. But I don't think that was at all possible with the republican majority in the Senate, and in view of Bush's plan to invade with or without congressional approval. Sen. Clinton and other Democrats didn't feel that the president would be restrained with a 'no' vote. They sought to influence his behavior through the resolution.

Bush's position before, during and after invasion was that 1441 gave him authority to do any thing he wanted to in that region. He wanted cover, but the IWR doesn't give him cover for his unilateral, preemptive invasion. Nowhere in the bill does it mandate what he did.

Bush disregarded the restraint implied in the resolution and pushed past Congress, the American people, and the world community in his predisposed zeal to invade and occupy Iraq.


. . .btw, I don't take a backseat to anyone here in my opposition to the Iraq invasion and occupation. I wrote almost 300 articles here and elsewhere during that period, most of them ignored here, opposing each and every step Bush took in Iraq. I don't need one lecture about how bad that conflict was.

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Most Congressional Democrats voted *against* war MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #2
that is not so. cali Jun 2014 #4
A majority voted against it MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #6
In the Senate, a majority voted for it. cali Jun 2014 #7
Only a handful of Dems voted for the war. Hillary, anybody? Hoppy Jun 2014 #10
that rivals anything under Saddam Hussein malaise Jun 2014 #3
You're absolutely right, Malaise. cali Jun 2014 #5
Iraq is now an unpredictable mess. What value did the war serve? Absolutely nothing. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #9
! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #17
+1 btrflykng9 Jun 2014 #34
That is some fascinating stuff right there. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #35
It gets better: DeSwiss Jun 2014 #37
After reading this I have to conclude that, Enthusiast Jun 2014 #38
Charlie Hatcher! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #39
The working class only invest their blood. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #40
Yeah. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #41
Iraq was a relatively stable country under Saddam Hussein. The people had HC, Education. And get sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #25
Excellent post! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #42
51 years ago yesterday President Kennedy chided Bob Byrd .. MinM Jun 2014 #8
cali Diclotican Jun 2014 #11
no! no! heaven05 Jun 2014 #12
kicking those dems who voted for this obscenity cali Jun 2014 #13
Iraq is a horrific mess. democrank Jun 2014 #14
K & R ctsnowman Jun 2014 #15
Saddam was contained by us and maintained order. EEO Jun 2014 #16
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2014 #18
LOL! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #43
Although Hussein did a lot of horrific stuff, Vattel Jun 2014 #19
But we were supposed to believe the shit about the mushroom cloud. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #44
Yeah, it was a cheap slogan that had no connection to reality. Vattel Jun 2014 #46
This is true. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #50
Regime Change was the way to disrupt the balance of power in the Middle East between Political and DhhD Jun 2014 #20
The vote: joshcryer Jun 2014 #21
the IWR didn't give Bush any authority or even the power to do what he ultimately did bigtree Jun 2014 #22
YOU actually think you know more than Senators Leahy, Byrd and Kennedy cali Jun 2014 #23
You refuted nothing written by that poster. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #31
I lived through that era, began my internet activism a few months before that vote bigtree Jun 2014 #36
That is how I remember it. yallerdawg Jun 2014 #30
Bigtree is right mylye2222 Jun 2014 #24
Tikrit just fell Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #26
Out of curiosity, were you able to bring yourself to vote for John Kerry in 2004? Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #27
No. I am a French citizen. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #28
I did. the past is not always prologue. cali Jun 2014 #47
Yep. I believe that Kerry has evolved from his pro-war vote, as has Hillary, Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #49
I see evidence of the latter but I don't see evidence of Hillary cali Jun 2014 #52
Were those who voted for the killing bamboozled or politically expedient? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #29
I have become so cynical that I would say every vote taken was out of political expediency. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #33
bringing up the IWR can only help the republicans! Commie! :sarcasm: MisterP Jun 2014 #32
the problem is most people blame Bush for Iraq , this is why Hillary JI7 Jun 2014 #45
"Four years ago I promised to end the war in Iraq. We did. (Cheers, applause.) rug Jun 2014 #48
@AP: BREAKING: Al-Qaida-inspired group says it will march on Baghdad after seizing 2 key Sunni citie Hissyspit Jun 2014 #51
thanks for what? Leme Jun 2014 #53
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