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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:28 PM Jun 2014

Canter Gone, so is the Senate [View all]

Today my email box was full of groups and people demanding that I donate to them to help defeat Brat claiming that the primary defeat of Cantor gives us a historic chance to win the district. ONE DISTRICT.

Even if we won that one district, we would not take control of the House. Taking control of the House of Representatives is a fantasy at this moment. But I've seen plenty of threads here calling on much the same thing, a chance to charge the enemy in full frontal assault and defeat them.

So what is going to happen? We're going to be distracted by the Teapublican opportunity in Virginia, which in all honesty is at best a long shot, and pour tons of money there. The Rethug establishment will pour enough into the district to make it look like they're fighting hard, and in the meantime will snatch the seats needed to go over the bar and take control of the Senate. Take a look at the Senate Map with no tossup races. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/2014_elections_senate_map_no_toss_ups.html

Rethugs 52, Democrats 48. Control of the Senate, firmly in Rethug hands. But we might win in the Virginia 7th, so at least while we're weeping over the loss of the Senate we'll get a condolence award for most improved handwriting or something.

For months now I've been saying the important races, the ones we can't afford to lose, are not the Texas Governorship, no matter how much I like Wendy Davis. It isn't a handful of House districts that even if we win, we won't manage to take control of the House of Representatives. It's the Senate. It's the battle we can't afford to lose. But we're going to lose it distracted by shiny objects and the opportunity to humiliate a Tea Party puke.

I would say that I hope that the DNC national leadership is smart enough to see this, but I don't think so. I think they're going to go all out for the symbolic victory, in an effort to compensate for the historic loss of the second chamber of the Legislative Branch.

One question friends. If we're really winning against the Rethugs, how come we keep giving up things to them? While we're battling tooth and nail for a single House seat, what is happening to our Senate chances? Because last week, the Rethugs were only expected to win 51.

I remain of the same opinion I had months ago. We can not afford to lose the Senate, and everything else, all the other symbolic victories and gee it would be nice if chances are irrelevant. Because even if we won all of those wouldn't it be awesome if opportunities, we would still have a Rethug House and Senate in January.

I know, I'm wasting my electrical energy tapping the keys to post my warnings again. Because so many here are convinced we're popular and the people love us. I just don't want to watch the last two years of President Obama's last term end up in such a state.

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Canter Gone, so is the Senate [View all] Savannahmann Jun 2014 OP
VA 7 is not as important as keeping the Senate and picking Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #1
Did you see the no toss up for Governor yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #2
Yes. elleng Jun 2014 #4
I doubt the Dem party will put much into VA 7, elleng Jun 2014 #3
Spot on elleng - n/t PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #5
Th DNC probably won't spend a lot of time on VA-7 DFW Jun 2014 #8
YES, YES, and YES! elleng Jun 2014 #9
Nailed it, as always! Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #11
The DNC needs to spend a lot of time on Kay Hagan (NC) as well. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #19
Wendy Davis is one of the distractions I mentioned. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #23
The Senate isn't the only thing that matters. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #24
What would be worse? Savannahmann Jun 2014 #25
Nice try. Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #33
There aren't any polls that show Wendy winning. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #36
Morning Joe? LOL Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #37
The facts remain Savannahmann Jun 2014 #38
We shouldn't concede ANY seat, state or federal. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #26
Childers vs. McDaniel Aerows Jun 2014 #6
Aren't Democrats Winning? erpowers Jun 2014 #7
RCP is wrong. Begich is leading every Thug. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #12
I feel fairly confident that Mark will win. Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #13
Some of those are optimistic for the GOP. Chan790 Jun 2014 #10
I really do not understand your logic. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #14
So which is unlikely? Savannahmann Jun 2014 #17
Dean's 50 state strategy was great for 2006 and 2008 IronLionZion Jun 2014 #15
That 50 state strategy didn't work in 2k, 2002, or 2004. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #35
I prefer to wait until the votes are cast before conceding the Senate WI_DEM Jun 2014 #16
I agree. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #18
if Senate lost, will see the real Obama...unless we already have Leme Jun 2014 #20
I think we've been seeing him all along. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #27
that's close to my opinion Leme Jun 2014 #28
They're out for whatever headline du jour ... frazzled Jun 2014 #21
The Senate is gone , Obama already know this statementofgoods Jun 2014 #22
Name is spelled 'Cantor'. Are you under the impression that American elections are not always Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #29
My apologies on the typo Savannahmann Jun 2014 #30
Real Clear Politics? KamaAina Jun 2014 #31
How do you use poll numbers from all the organizations Savannahmann Jun 2014 #32
Yep. n/t Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #34
Doooooommmmmm. Gloooooooommmmmm. FSogol Jun 2014 #39
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