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In reply to the discussion: If Hillary is the nominee I will of course vote for her, so should you unless you are an idiot! [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)35. If we're going to change the game, enough of us are going to have to go play in the street
to make the rule changes effective and permanent.

The most they are ever going to allow us on the political front is a few gains in social issues. And we'll get those with Democrats. We get less than zero with republicans. You might argue that the country has to get worse in order for the people to rise up and form a democracy, but the fact is, Occupy came about under a Democratic administration, and as disappointing as the Obama administration has been, life in the US is soooo much better than it was under Bush.
I'll take back any of our stuff I can until we move to take back everything that is ours.
The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. he great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . .
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html
The only solution is world revolution.
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If Hillary is the nominee I will of course vote for her, so should you unless you are an idiot! [View all]
Logical
Jun 2014
OP
It's still up to the candidates to convince the voters to vote for them.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#3
Alas, some of our Democratic candidates do try to help the GOP. See IWR for reference.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2014
#12
I think there is a pushback on the DU meme (from a few) that Hillary WILL be the
djean111
Jun 2014
#4
Fine, but then who have you got as an alternative. And are they where big campaign money will go.
ancianita
Jun 2014
#7
While I'll certainly vote for the nominee, I can't begrudge other people abstaining if done so in...
LanternWaste
Jun 2014
#14
As I have said, if you dont want a REpublican in the WH, dont nominate Clinton.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#19
This notion that having actual expectations from Democratic Presidential candidates
Maedhros
Jun 2014
#29
Can you or anyone else give us a precise list of Hillary's political actions that have been so
lumpy
Jun 2014
#37
I think the onus is on those that support her to explain how she represents the 99%.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#38
I disagree. Anti-Clinton people have the onus to explain their reason for disdain of Clinton.
lumpy
Jun 2014
#44
I have seen plenty of reasons not to vote for Clinton-Sachs but little in favor.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#49
Well said. Watch for Jerry Brown to jump in to challenge the "Wall Street" mentality of doing business and show he can relate to the little guy, if no one else does.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2014
#60
I've heard how Hillary is a bad choice,lesser of two evils etc. but have failed to see concrete
lumpy
Jun 2014
#46
Or ask our conservatives why they love her so. She is in the pocket of Goldman-Sach-O-money
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#61
Tell us where she stands on the economy and on the NSA/CIA. And then maybe you will figure
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#59
You can call me anything you want. I don't give a damn. When I vote do you know who I
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2014
#20
Same here - the desperation of insulting fellow progressive here to garner support for Hillary, a hero Wall Street, is just sad.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2014
#55
The politics of today's Democratic rank-and-file have devolved to simple Blue Team/Red Team
Maedhros
Jun 2014
#30
The lesser of evils game plays right into the hands of the oligarchs. Each iteration we
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#33
If we're going to change the game, enough of us are going to have to go play in the street
Zorra
Jun 2014
#35
We may get to world revolution but that wont help and probably will hinder.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#36
My friend, when we find elites who aren't so greedy that they need to enslave others,
Zorra
Jun 2014
#39
What are Clinton's issues that you have disagreement with? I really want to know so I can
lumpy
Jun 2014
#42
Too bad Hillary didn't take your advice in '08 - she said McCain would be better than Obama
Whisp
Jun 2014
#41