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madfloridian

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Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:15 PM Jun 2014

Michelle Rhee is smiling. [View all]

One of her major battles against public education has been LIFO. That means Last in First out when layoffs occur. That is not an unfair way to do things, and I believe many major companies do that.

But today she is smiling. She's a big winner along with a group formed by billionaires to privatize public schools.

From what I can understand the lawsuit in effect said that minorities were hurt because bad teachers were put in their schools instead of being fired. That's paraphrasing, but I think it's the gist of it.

That hits me and many others who taught in schools heavily minority feeling very angry. Our school taught minorities, many others poor and needy, and we had some of the best teachers I ever taught with...even in the richer schools I had been in before. It's such an awful accusation to make.

You can bet your bottom dollar there were many rich folks behind those 9 students who brought the lawsuit.

From CNN today. There's video there of an interview done today.

U.S. schools chief calls California ruling 'a mandate' to fix tenure, firing laws

She's not the only one gloating today. Arne Duncan is also smiling a very big smile.

Poor and minority students are especially hurt by the laws because "grossly ineffective teachers" more often work in their schools, Los Angeles County Judge Rolf M. Treu said.

The ruling was hailed by the nation's top education chief as bringing to California -- and possibly the nation -- an opportunity to build "a new framework for the teaching profession." The decision represented "a mandate" to fix a broken teaching system, U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said.

...Rhee called the ruling "groundbreaking" and a moment for the state to now build "a first-class educational system."


The union said:

"This suit is not pro-student. It is fundamentally anti-public education, scapegoating teachers for problems originating in underfunding, poverty, and economic inequality," California Federation of Teachers President Joshua Pechthalt said.

The CTA described Students Matter as a group created by Silicon Valley multimillionaire David Welch and a private public relations firm and said the group is supported by former Washington, D.C., schools chancellor "Michelle Rhee and Students First, Parent Revolution Executive Director Ben Austin, billionaire and school privatizer Eli Broad, former lawmaker Gloria Romero, and other corporate education reformers with an interest in privatizing public education and attacking teachers' unions."


The Students Matter page lists the media and politicians and other leaders who supported this lawsuit. Group's legal team headed by Ted Olson.

Students Matter

Editorial: Los Angeles Times
Editorial: The Bakersfield Californian
Editorial: San Jose Mercury News
Editorial: New York Post
Editorial: Pasadena Star-News
California Assemblywoman Kristin M. Olsen
Oakland Alliance of Black Educators
U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Former Superintendent Jonathan Raymond, Sacramento City Unified School District
Former Superintendent Tony Smith, Oakland Unified School District
Superintendent John Deasy, Los Angeles Unified School District


A little more on it from the New York Daily News.

Tenure for teachers in California public schools ruled unconstitutional


Attorneys Theodore Boutrous, far right, and Marcellus McRae, second from right , are joined by nine California public school students who sued the state to abolish its laws on teacher tenure, seniority and other protections, during a news conference in January.

Beatriz Vergara and eight other students brought the lawsuit, claiming that bad tenured teachers amounted to a burden so unfair it violated constitutional rights.

The ruling, which affects 6 million students from kindergarten through 12th grade, potentially has national implications.


Eva Moskowitz according to the article is very very happy.

Reformers in New York hailed the decision.

Eva Moskowitz, founder of the Success Academy charter school chain, called it “a significant social justice win for children. The high failure rates in our schools wouldn’t be tolerated for hospitals, police or fire departments.”


Why is she so happy?

Moskowitz moving her charter into yet another public school. Causing tensions in NYC

The "Eva" Empire has expanded to the Bronx, bringing a Harlem turf war for school space into the borough. Eva Moskowitz, the City Council member-turned-charter school CEO, has opened two new academies from her charter school franchise, Success Charter Network, inside Public School 30 in Mott Haven, and PS 146 in Morrisania. And Bronx Success Academies 1 and 2 are already ruffling feathers with district school staffers.

..."Staffers at the district schools say their new neighbors have booted them from classrooms and stairwells, while sharing the libraries, cafeterias and playgrounds.

...."Staffers at PS 30 say Bronx Success 1 sealed off the third floor to its staff and students - even taking over a stairwell - so Success students don't mingle with their district school neighbors.

"We are not allowed there," said one PS 30 teacher, noting the classrooms taken over by Success were formerly used for tutoring children with special needs. Now we have to do therapy sessions in the hallway."


It's not just Michelle Rhee, Arne Duncan (as Obama's appointee) and Eva Moskowitz who are so happy today.

Far too many here are very happy also. As the implications of losing our unions in America sink in...some might change their minds. I doubt it.
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Michelle Rhee is smiling. [View all] madfloridian Jun 2014 OP
More on why her smile is so big. madfloridian Jun 2014 #1
I'd love to see a lawsuit, People vs Arnie Duncan. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #5
Next they can work on disbanding countries ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #2
Arne is doing Newt Gingrich's Free Market Schools policy. madfloridian Jun 2014 #7
That's just so amazingly fucking disgusting. laundry_queen Jun 2014 #56
Apt description. lol madfloridian Jun 2014 #57
Regarding Ed policy, America is INSANE nikto Jun 2014 #62
One of the stupidest and most amoral men in recent US history, and we adopt his system nikto Jun 2014 #63
^^^ very good point ^^^ SalviaBlue Jun 2014 #16
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #3
Frightening..we are talking about millions of America's children. K&R Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #4
It really is. madfloridian Jun 2014 #88
How did this ever happen to the Democratic Party? That we have come to the point where sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #6
Let's face it we are all Republicans now. zeemike Jun 2014 #37
Yes, and it is a tragedy nikto Jun 2014 #65
Current Pub Ed policy is The Great Shame of Democrats nikto Jun 2014 #64
Fact that they are Newt Gingrich's plans makes it even worse. madfloridian Jun 2014 #94
Kicking FloriTexan Jun 2014 #8
This is all bullshit. theaocp Jun 2014 #9
Let's not forget who else is smiling..... vi5 Jun 2014 #10
More Union Busting co-sponsored by a Democratic Administration. bvar22 Jun 2014 #11
Time lo look at facts. We have a "Democratic Party" in nothing but name. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #17
I too am sick of it nikto Jun 2014 #66
Erik Hanushek of the right-wing Hoover Institution was one of the witnesses. Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #12
They really pulled off a big deal today. Money talks, and we know about BS madfloridian Jun 2014 #13
Why hedge funds love charter schools antigop Jun 2014 #15
Thanks, I missed that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #23
It's baffling. Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #18
I hope you are right. madfloridian Jun 2014 #20
And not one dime from them or any of them to actually help education. Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #22
On the way...cheaper teachers, temp teachers, no benefits, no tenure. madfloridian Jun 2014 #91
Also teachers who no longer dare to advocate for the children in their classrooms kmlisle Jun 2014 #101
If I were teaching in FL now, I would never cross kids or parents. madfloridian Jun 2014 #103
My experiences were with administrators on issues like scheduling and curriculum kmlisle Jun 2014 #104
My last 4 years I had the principal from hell. madfloridian Jun 2014 #112
K & R historylovr Jun 2014 #14
I think our only hope against these Corporate Education types is nonoxy9 Jun 2014 #19
This issue perfectly illustrates how broken is our political system. Maedhros Jun 2014 #21
Students? Minors? Voters? Since when do they have either qualifications, evidence or standing to ancianita Jun 2014 #24
Yes, it is manipulation. madfloridian Jun 2014 #41
Indeed...how did the 13 child Plaintiffs in Brown have the qualifications, evidence, or standing for msanthrope Jun 2014 #75
Michelle Rhee .. I can't stand that woman. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #25
Who is going to take the place of all the "bad" teachers? TexasBushwhacker Jun 2014 #26
TFA is waiting to come in through the now open door. madfloridian Jun 2014 #38
But few of those teachers stay TexasBushwhacker Jun 2014 #44
I also taught for 8 years, and LIFO is vile Android3.14 Jun 2014 #27
I dont know enough about it to know if you are right or not but the answer randys1 Jun 2014 #28
Exactly Android3.14 Jun 2014 #34
The career teachers with years behind them of hard work also work late, love kids. are passionate. madfloridian Jun 2014 #29
Don't put words in my mouth Android3.14 Jun 2014 #30
Not true. So not true. And I have enough people jumping all over me right now.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #33
The problem with our ed system has been developing for 50 years Android3.14 Jun 2014 #35
"bad old teachers" there's that old folks theme again. madfloridian Jun 2014 #36
Irrelevant Android3.14 Jun 2014 #45
"I can tell you have little idea what the teaching experience is like" Did you really say that? madfloridian Jun 2014 #48
Unbelievable comment by Android3.14, who is losing credibility, FAST nikto Jun 2014 #70
Still doesn't believe me. See post $71. Amazing. madfloridian Jun 2014 #80
You can see short "about me" at this link. Yes, I have good knowledge of teaching. madfloridian Jun 2014 #49
Okay Android3.14 Jun 2014 #71
You got me, Android3.14. I have been fooling folks since 2002 in 80,000+ posts. lol madfloridian Jun 2014 #78
Super-high posting numbers Android3.14 Jun 2014 #82
No, it goes to credibility only. Hard to survive 12 years without being "found out". madfloridian Jun 2014 #83
ALL organizations. ALL professional organizations might hide "bad" somebodies, but you don't hear ancianita Jun 2014 #99
Yes, teachers are now the enemy at a Democratic forum. madfloridian Jun 2014 #100
American Teachers have no friends in politics anymore nikto Jun 2014 #113
Misunderstanding Android3.14 Jun 2014 #106
Yes, actually. You are. Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #52
..... madfloridian Jun 2014 #58
Me neither nikto Jun 2014 #69
Absolutely, positively right and true ALL OVER this country. The corporate meme of "the longer ancianita Jun 2014 #98
Not what I said Android3.14 Jun 2014 #108
Your argument is predicated sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #39
You can be sure of that assumption Android3.14 Jun 2014 #46
Back it up. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #73
Misunderstanding me. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #79
2 of your links refer to Charlotte Danielson evaluation. madfloridian Jun 2014 #81
OK. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #84
LIFO is a staffing formula unrelated to tenure, which is solely every principal's decision. ancianita Jun 2014 #47
"By the way, there is no such thing as a lazy teacher." Android3.14 Jun 2014 #85
What? You're saying there's no such thing as a good teacher? I don't get it. ancianita Jun 2014 #92
I'm saying there is no such thing as a lazy good teacher Android3.14 Jun 2014 #93
I'm sure... nikto Jun 2014 #68
I have never seen this. The teachers roody Jun 2014 #72
Most of the teachers at my school did too Android3.14 Jun 2014 #74
As a member of a union, we need to hang together or surely we will hang neverforget Jun 2014 #31
Haven't you heard? sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #40
K&R.... daleanime Jun 2014 #32
The judge's tentative decision is amatuer hour The Second Stone Jun 2014 #42
I hope so. This is such manipulation of young people against their school system. madfloridian Jun 2014 #43
Madflo...which plaintiff do you think was manipulated? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #77
Thankfully, I've finally encountered another DUer who has read the actual decision! Tell us msanthrope Jun 2014 #76
Here is my take The Second Stone Jun 2014 #90
strict scrutiny doesn't apply to SES minority defendants??? msanthrope Jun 2014 #117
subject The Second Stone Jun 2014 #118
As to your first paragraph, that msanthrope Jun 2014 #119
They must have promised those students roody Jun 2014 #50
Tenured Harvard professors who testified in Vergera against teacher tenure.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #51
You know you are no longer relevant when... madfloridian Jun 2014 #53
That doesn't make YOU irrelevant, MF. It means there are some people around who are in serious sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #67
Yeh, well I have been found out now. lol madfloridian Jun 2014 #86
Air Traffic Controllers BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #54
"the tenured teachers made the school a stable place and focus of community" Vital. madfloridian Jun 2014 #55
Yes bashing unions is always seen as the tough guy position BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #59
It's having a huge effect on what were once middle class dreams. madfloridian Jun 2014 #89
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #60
Unbelievable decision----America is destroying itself!! nikto Jun 2014 #61
Karoli at Crooks and Liars had a good article about this case in March. madfloridian Jun 2014 #87
Welch is starting a nationwide fight on teacher due process. madfloridian Jun 2014 #95
Someday we will wake up and wonder how we lost our public education system. But by then it will be liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #96
K&R--The attack on public education is an attack on democracy emsimon33 Jun 2014 #97
Is our president evil, clueless, or just in it for the money? Jakes Progress Jun 2014 #102
I've been retired for a year, and I can't believe how many of my former coworkers are looking into a charmay Jun 2014 #105
I agree. madfloridian Jun 2014 #107
Madfloridian, they will get it when mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2014 #109
Sad. Your gov and ours in FL are virulently anti-public schools and teachers. madfloridian Jun 2014 #110
What is so stupid, they hear Republicans mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2014 #111
The ugly fact that school privatizers use THE LANGUAGE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT to persuade... nikto Jun 2014 #114
Perfect example of Jeb doing that...from 2006 madfloridian Jun 2014 #115
Thanks! nikto Jun 2014 #116
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