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108. Having worked in Florida K-12 Public schools

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:35 PM

Apr 2012

I can tell you if a staff member was found to have gun in their car, they would be fired immediately. Personally, I have never worked in a Florida school where there wasn't a full, and some additional part-time, badge and gun toting Deputies on the school campus. I would trust them, and their training and experience, far more than some "law abiding, citizen" school staff members with guns. I worked with At Risk Pre-teen boys. We had radios and many, many times called the Deputy to prevent an incident with these boys. I suppose staff should have been armed too? Hell, we didn't let these kids use pencils which could be a weapon. They wrote with crayons. Anything they could use as a weapon was banned, or under lock and key. Teachers having guns? Insane around these kids.

Believe me, you wouldn't want to mess with any of these Deputies; male, OR female.

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Zimmerman claims he was on his way to Target when he spotted Trayvon. So why did he need a gun? [View all] Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 OP

Because it's called Target? n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #1

It was a News edit error. CAPHAVOC Apr 2012 #16

Whatever Zimmerman claims to have been doing Mz Pip Apr 2012 #2

I dont think he was specifically looking for a fight. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #7

The last thing I would do Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #22

How many times have you called 911 in the last year? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #68

He could be a little more relaxed with them than I would be. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #73

Concealed carry is legal. Indydem Apr 2012 #3

He was not licensed to carry as a neighborhood watch person Nancy Waterman Apr 2012 #5

Do not confuse the issues. Indydem Apr 2012 #9

When did "neighborhood watch" program start requiring any permitting at all? ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #10

It doesn't. trof Apr 2012 #111

Yeah, there is something crazy about it gratuitous Apr 2012 #14

You are entitled to your opinion. Indydem Apr 2012 #17

You're welcome gratuitous Apr 2012 #19

A majority of Americans still think Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. tledford Apr 2012 #86

Unless you live in a free-fire zone, carrying a gun in public pnwmom Apr 2012 #43

I'll agree it's legal... but I may differ on the "crazy." Fawke Em Apr 2012 #57

If we're basing things on probabilities.... krispos42 Apr 2012 #115

I have NEVER bought a lottery ticket. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #129

Actually higher than being a CCW hero nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #130

Sorry, FE. Cowboy Dan Apr 2012 #143

Sorry, but you're more wrong. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #156

Theres black people wearing hoodies at Target. Better bring a gun. nt HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #4

He was on his way to target Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #6

Actually what he said was "I was out looking for a target" ... nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2012 #8

You must have never checked in to our gun forum (RKBA)... Those with CCW think they should be able hlthe2b Apr 2012 #11

Violence doesn't happen at these places? vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #15

Seatbelts aren't capable of killing other people when mishandled. Arkana Apr 2012 #18

You are mistaken slackmaster Apr 2012 #21

They save lives, just as concield carried guns do. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #23

there is simply no way that "concield" is a typo. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #31

It was. It has been a long Monday. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #60

Argue that in the gun forum. I am only stating a fact. hlthe2b Apr 2012 #24

Sorry, I thought you asked a question. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #26

That question was in the opening post of the thread NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #33

Sorry that was my mistake. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #36

In generally safe places, you or your children are more likely to be wounded or killed by accident pnwmom Apr 2012 #44

Stats, please. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #138

Why bother? Every time I post the Harvard researcher's stats, someone pops up to dispute them. But pnwmom Apr 2012 #140

So essentially they want no places that are gun-free Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #28

No you are not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #59

I carry my gun where ever i go with one or two exceptions. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #12

I always carry my gun when going to the toilet. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #30

Alligators are no joke! vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #34

Seriously you realize a hand gun, even large calliber nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #65

I know but a toilet alligator would be pretty small. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #74

Better spend sometime watching Swamp People Hangingon Apr 2012 #121

I know that a .22 will do but overkill is better than underkill when it comes to gators. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #122

Prefered s an M-1 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #123

here toy go vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #124

Garand nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #125

I have never seen a Garand on the show. Hangingon Apr 2012 #134

So admittedly we have watched a different show nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #135

They use 22 rimfires Meiko Apr 2012 #144

Yup, different shows. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #145

*sigh* zappaman Apr 2012 #147

Those Garands were self-deleted by the hunter. nt Codeine Apr 2012 #157

If he had a CCW in Florida, he could bring his "security blankie" anywhere HockeyMom Apr 2012 #13

"security blankie" Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #75

hey, never underestimate someone with a towel... JHB Apr 2012 #137

You can't go anywhere without a gun. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #20

Unfortunately, people do carry their guns to Target, parks, restaurants, and they want the right to Hoyt Apr 2012 #25

If bad guys would follow the law, I wouldnt need/want to carry everywhere. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #35

yeah you would. Alligators. How soon you forget. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #45

Like Zimmy? eom uppityperson Apr 2012 #47

Welcome to DU. I've know a bunch of folks who carry guns, they'd still do it if there were no crime. Hoyt Apr 2012 #51

You know what amazes me about this argument? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #62

I have no desire to be a hero. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #77

Please do the math. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #78

thank you for your service. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #88

Are you familiar with escalation of force? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #89

I am familiar with the escalation of force. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #93

But we are having this discussion because of Zimmerman. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #96

Having worked in Florida K-12 Public schools HockeyMom Apr 2012 #108

Your absolutely right because crime never happens in a Target, a park ... spin Apr 2012 #94

And quite honestly my chances to give first aid nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #105

True. Crime is way down despite the spread of concealed carry ... spin Apr 2012 #116

Since you brought it up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #118

can you back that up??? belcffub Apr 2012 #127

Yup, and the source is ironic. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #128

ok so looking over that article belcffub Apr 2012 #131

and how many of those justifiable homicides were law enforcement belcffub Apr 2012 #133

He's a coward who takes a gun everywhere. DevonRex Apr 2012 #27

Are you a coward if you have a fire extinguisher or wear a seat belt? vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #37

nah... I bring gasoline with me instead fascisthunter Apr 2012 #40

Fire extinguishers and seat belts don't accidentally kill children and other innocent people. pnwmom Apr 2012 #46

If I had a nickel for every screwup DevonRex Apr 2012 #49

Ok vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #56

My god what a fantasy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #64

I dont see it as a fantasy more like a nightmare. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #72

What, the non existent wounds? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #80

My point is that if IF IF IF he was correct. Im 99% sure he wasnt. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #90

I have been in those very rare situations nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #91

thats why i said i would vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #95

4- follow through if you are serious nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #97

Ummm, yeah.... PavePusher Apr 2012 #139

Yikes! zappaman Apr 2012 #148

3 days, no reply..... PavePusher Apr 2012 #155

ABC enhanced the video and it showed gashes on the back of Zimmerman's head... spin Apr 2012 #101

I am betting an old wound nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #102

True... spin Apr 2012 #103

The problem is the tape blew howitzer sized holes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #104

It will indeed be interesting to follow ... spin Apr 2012 #117

The law itself is already, rightly so, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #119

My brother carries a gun to his work place at night when closing chowder66 Apr 2012 #79

Protect ME? Don't make me fucking laugh. DevonRex Apr 2012 #81

Im not vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #100

Another Tim in OKC was a blast. DevonRex Apr 2012 #106

Im sorry about your friends. I'm a blsat was a poor attempt at humor. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #109

It's okay. DevonRex Apr 2012 #110

I just knew it......... TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #54

because it is Very Important for Hollywood Cowboys to be armed and dangerous at all times. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #29

Maybe he was a mall cop wannabe too? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #32

self delete snagglepuss Apr 2012 #38

And so....? What does that have to do with stalking and murdering somebody fascisthunter Apr 2012 #39

Yes when I first read that, I wondered about it also. I wondered why he was behaving as if sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #41

If you live in a state that allows concealed weapons and don't assume the guy next to you onenote Apr 2012 #42

For all we know, Zimmerman, a Democrat, has been on DU arguing for the right pnwmom Apr 2012 #48

I just saw on another thread that he's a Republican. mainer Apr 2012 #66

Dad, none, that I am aware off, has brought George's party affiliation. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #69

His supporters use his Democratic affiliation to argue that he isn't a racist. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #85

Southern Dixiecrat? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #87

CNN says he's a registered Democrat. pnwmom Apr 2012 #83

He needed a gun because he is a paranoid freak. alarimer Apr 2012 #50

Well, that's one. Gimme another. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #55

My question is what did he see (or claim to see) Martin doing Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #52

he saw Martin being BLACK YUTE. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #53

True...I just want to read Zimmerman's "official" statement from that night Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #58

Exactly Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #61

I heard one time Politicalboi Apr 2012 #63

I carry a gun pretty much whenever I leave the house .... oldhippie Apr 2012 #67

Again nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #70

You keep saying that - care to provide some actual facts? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #76

X2 kramerv Apr 2012 #114

Suffice it to say... zappaman Apr 2012 #149

Yes, I do. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #142

I carry eveywhere I go. No big deal. shadowrider Apr 2012 #71

They carry guns everywhere, like imaginary medieval knights with their swords alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #82

He was on his way to hold it up. eom tledford Apr 2012 #84

Yes. Some people with carry permits do carry on a regular basis ... spin Apr 2012 #92

Because, in the sick world of gun hero wannabees - the opportunity for gun heroism is everywhere jpak Apr 2012 #98

Wow kramerv Apr 2012 #113

...because! Ya Never knowwwwwww! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #99

George can try to convince a jury that he carries a weapon to go to target Marrah_G Apr 2012 #107

Of course he took a gun to Target. He wanted to be sure to get double value on his coupons. n/t gkhouston Apr 2012 #112

Because of their low low prices Aerows Apr 2012 #120

if you need a gun to go to Target riverwalker Apr 2012 #126

Maybe you didn't hear the whole sentence: "I was on my way to target....suspicious-looking people." ScottLand Apr 2012 #132

He's saying this to protect the Homeowner's Association and his friends within it from lawsuits. E-Z-B Apr 2012 #136

Paranoia. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #141

That's CCW for you. I don't get it, but whatever. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #146

As a former cop I get it actually nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #150

I guess in that limited situation it might make sense. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #151

I could have qualified nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #153

A former cop who is "a really bad shot"? Codeine Apr 2012 #158

I was a cop too. zappaman Apr 2012 #154

You are a former cop? From where? I've never heard you mention that before. SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #159

To be fair, Codeine Apr 2012 #160

That's a pretty heavy claim she's making. I'd like details. SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #161

The only details we'll get are snarky comments about Ignore lists and Codeine Apr 2012 #162

+100 and a kick n/t zappaman Apr 2012 #163

Never roam alone. ileus Apr 2012 #152