The 8 Biggest Lies Men's Rights Activists Spread About Women

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57. Lets me pick some bones with your statements

Now, I did read the article, it has some good solid points, but it does suffer from someone who does have a "feminist" agenda. i.e. They want "equal rights" for both sexes, without considering what is "Equal" given the differences between the sexes. These differences are not only physical, but mental for the physical difference do lead to a different mental outlook. If you can easily lift a 50 pound stone, that stone is not a major problem for you. If you can NOT lift that stone, then it stays in your way and you have to work around it. Thus the man who can remove the stone, can ignore the stone, while the woman who can not remove the stone have to deal with the stone being in their way. I have seen many feminists not wanting to address these difference for it upsets their dream of perfect equality between the sexes. I have also seen many feminists who accept these differences and seek to work with them. The key is accepting them AND addressing them. That is hard to do for it MAY mean getting a man to remove the "Stone" and accepting the fact that a man had to do that when a woman could no but also addressing the ability of women and men to work around the stone without removing it (Something a man may not think of, for he can move it but woman have to for they can not).

Please note I used the 50 pound stone as an example, I have known women who can move a 50 pound stone. I have known women who can work as a team to move such a stone. I am using the concept of a stone a man could move and a woman could not to show that the differences in physical nature of men and women can lead to a difference in outlook and thus a difference in what is "Equal".

Now to the points in the article"


1. "Feminists hate men, and are out to turn the world against them." 94% of all people enter into some sort of pair bond relationship i.e. man and woman. The remaining 6 percent include about 3 percentage points suffer some sort of mental impairment (mostly minor) that prevents them from mating. About 1 % of females and 3% of males are homosexuals. Thus the vast majority of women like men enter into some sort of pair bond with a man, and thus can not hate men. The claim that feminist hate men has to be more projection then anything else. My experience is women like men and want men to like them.

2. "Feminists are hypocrites, because chivalry is a female privilege." Most "chivalry" is also referred to as "dating"... i.e. a man tries to impress women that it would be good for her to date him. Now, most attempts are failures, but that does not mean we stop. Women like to know the men who are around her are willing to work with her and that is what most "chivalry" amount to, men showing they are willing to work or interact around and with a woman. Women do the same for men, but it is more in what most people call "supporting" roles, i.e. women will clean up the house of the men in their lives, cook meals etc to show they also are willing to work with men. It is a two way street, with each sex trying to show the other they can make the life of the other sex better.

3. "The courts are biased against men and in favor of women in custody disputes." First a disclaimer, I have been doing family law for almost 25 years. I have NOT seen any preference for either sex. The Courts are bias in favor of whoever has the child at the time the case gets in front of the Court. Given that women carry a fetus for nine months, give birth and have mammary glands, they tend to end up with the child. Thus women are in a superior position to men when it comes to custody at birth, for they have the body parts (mammary glands) that babies are most interested in AND their are always present at the time of birth. After the child is weened, that tendency continues. The Child know who their father is in most cases, but given a choice they prefer their mother if they have to make a choice. This preference survives in most children even in their teens years, through by then other factors may over come it.

Please note if a Mother is unfit, any court will remove the child from such a Mother, but that is rarely the case. Furthermore if the Father ends up with the child at the time of the breakup, the courts will tend to preserve his custody, for the same reason courts tend to support women, the courts want the child to have consistency in their lives and any change of custody has to be clearly in the child's best interest. Thus when both parents are viewed as equal (and that is most cases) the courts will maintain whatever was the custody before the ligation. In most cases that is with mother, but in cases where Father has the child that is also preserved in most such cases. Thus I have NOT seen a preference for women over men, but I have seen a preference to perserve who ever has custody, in most cases that is the mother, but it can also be the father.

4. "Male circumcision is just as bad as female genital mutilation"!!!! Who came up with that observation??? Male foreskin was meant to protect the penis before man invented something called "Clothes". Once Clothes were invented male foreskin had no real use and thus can be cut with no long term damage. Female circumcision is not cutting off skin, but actually muscle and that is always harmful.

5. Men have always been drafted, for in most cases Armies need people with upper body strength which men tend to have more of then women. Furthermore woman of the age to be drafted are also of the age to give birth, thus in many ways drafting of men has little affect in producing the next generation (men can go to war AND get their wives pregnant), while the drafting of women would affect production of the next generation. In many ways male military service is only possible for their wives are the one having their child and taking care of that child for the first 5-12 years of the child's life. You can make the claim that men NOT being drafted, is freeing men from their duty to society, while women still have to do their duty by giving birth and taking care of their children. Thus the dropping of the draft can be seen as making the sexes less equal (I am avoiding the issue of Veterans Preference, for since WWII, Veterans Preference is the #1 reason men get hired by Governmental units more then women is anything other then various "pink ghettos" that exist in Government service. Such Veteran preference, often for men who did not see combat kept a lot of women out of a lot of Government jobs. It is an example of why something like the draft and Veterans Preference should be debated every 10 years or so, given how socity changes do to such preferences and the willingness for the Military to enlist women).

6. Men objectified? Yes, men are made fun of, but people always make fun of their superiors. Superiors join in such jokes for such jokes do NOT really affect their position in society. Famous observation of Strong Leaders, they rarely need any of the trappings of power, for their have REAL power, thus do not need the trappings. It is when such leaders are LOSING powers that you see the Trappings increase. Louis XIV and his successors all ran large entertainment and parties for their hold on power was weak. Napoleon did not have to wear Emperor Clothing, for his power was real. Stalin, was NEVER President of the Soviet Union, his position was Chairmen of the Communist Party. Gorbachev became Chairmen and then had himself named President of the Soviet Union for his hold on power was weak. Gorbachev needed to be seen as powerful and thus grabbed all the trappings of powers he could get. Stalin did not have to have such trapping, for he was all powerful. The same with women and men. Men do not need to show they are more powerful then women, for as a general rule we are. Strong men also do not fear strong women and other strong men. On the other hand, people who see themselves as weak, want to preserve all of the images of strength and tend to avoid people of real strength (And by Strength I do not mean just muscle power, I mean internal strength). Thus men are rarely objectified for strong men do not care if they are or are not, and weak men avoid being objectified out of fear, not of women but their own weakness.

7. False rape charges are endemic?? On whose planet is that the case? Most men want woman to have as much fun as they do when they have sex. Men enjoy when a woman is screaming in pleasure. Rape is an attack on women. Worse, most men do not ejaculate in rape, all the rapist wants to do is to penetrate a woman. That does not mean the woman can not get pregnant (men leak so penetration is enough in some cases), but I bring it up for most rape has little to do with a man seeking sexual satisfaction. Rape is an attack on a woman to attack her nothing more. I bring this up for most men know the difference between rape and seduction and they want the later for it is more fun for them. I always joke, a rapist does NOT want an all male jury, for men will not buy his argument that the victim caused the rape. Worse, if any of the men has dated a woman who have been raped. Such women still want to have sex with a man, but just can not release themselves to be able to do so. Such a date is frustrating, she wants to be sexy AND she fears sex. This is not being left at the door as your date says good night, such dates are common. It is how she acts during the date that is frustrating. The man does not want to rape her, for he wants good sex, thus the date is frustrating. Men quickly see why she is acting like she is and they grow to hate rape more then women. Thus men tend to vote to convict men of rape and give them more severe punishment then women. I bring this up for there is to much rape in the world today, and false accusations comes no where near the actual level of rape and thus a false charge in its face.

8. "Feminists want to turn everything into rape". Yes and no. Yes in the sense I have seen Feminists treating the the desire of women to have sex as the main reason women give up equal rights. Notice such feminists are NOT taking about rape itself, but that woman often give up equal rights to keep peace with their sexual partner.

Just some comments, but I have to return to the tone of the article and its desire for complete equality between the sexes. I do not thinks such equality is possible, but that does not mean we should stop trying. At the same time, we must also be realistic of what is possible, which I suspect the author is unable of doing. More an observation of the tone of the article then its substance but something writers should avoid if they want they article to be read by a larger audience then just the people who agree with her.